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If the Browns take the Colts deal, trade down, and don't get their desired QB, anarchy would reign in Cleveland haha.
If the Browns take the Colts deal, trade down, and don't get their desired QB, anarchy would reign in Cleveland haha.
And all of this still depends "IF" the BROWNS can or cannot sign an experienced quarterback in the FA market......NO QB, sign a rookie savior and debate on who starts him or Kizer.
Oh I can't wait until April 26.
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Sounds like an excellent opportunity for us to lose out on the QB we have rated the highest. Would I like to get more assets? Sure. Would I like to absolutely get the QB we want with 100% certainty even more? You bet.
This isn't complicated. Draft the guy you like the most and don't play games with our future.
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or....it's all a clever ploy by the Colts. they'll convince the Browns they'll use the #1 on a running back and then BAM! once they have the #1 pick they swipe the Browns' top QB choice out from under them. It's all a plot for revenge for the Trent Richardson trade.
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Sounds like an excellent opportunity for us to lose out on the QB we have rated the highest. Would I like to get more assets? Sure. Would I like to absolutely get the QB we want with 100% certainty even more? You bet.
This isn't complicated. Draft the guy you like the most and don't play games with our future.
This isn't complicated. Draft the guy you like the most and don't play games with our future.
Amen to that. There's several candidates that would qualify as the #1 pick at the strongest position of need. To not take one unless we pull Cousins out of our hat would be nothing short of absurd.
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If the Browns take the Colts deal, trade down, and don't get their desired QB, anarchy would reign in Cleveland haha.
If the Browns take the Colts deal, trade down, and don't get their desired QB, anarchy would reign in Cleveland haha.
Except...of course....they would claim that the DID get their desired QB. Fair to say? If the Giants took Rosen....and they took Darnold...they would say that they were after Darnold all the time.....and vice versa.
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While listening to CBS Sports radio earlier it was reported that the Colts are seriously looking to trade up to number 1 to take Barklay over the Giants ........ I wonder what we would get from the Colts in return ?
What would you suggest? Obviously the #3.....plus their 2d rounder? At minimum.
What would you suggest? Obviously the #3.....plus their 2d rounder? At minimum.
Draft Value chart says their #3, the #35, plus a second next year. Might be interested. That gives us the first, third, fourth, and last picks in the second round.
or....it's all a clever ploy by the Colts. they'll convince the Browns they'll use the #1 on a running back and then BAM! once they have the #1 pick they swipe the Browns' top QB choice out from under them. It's all a plot for revenge for the Trent Richardson trade.
Only way that would happen is if they think Luck is so damaged, it's time to move on. Even if in that scenario (Colts take Barkley) the Giants would do as I suspect and take a QB, that would Still leave 2 out of 3 for us to take- Darnold, Rosen, or Mayfield. I could live with that. Or they could pull a Sonny Weaver draft day move- go up to #1, and then trade back to a team that really wants a QB. However, if a team really wanted to move up to #1 for a qb- I'd think they'd deal directly with the Browns and cut out the middleman.
Finally- MHO is why? Would the Colts (or the Giants) want to take a RB? Even with a healthy OBJ (Giants) or Luck (Colts) Barkley isn't going to magically transform them into a Super Bowl caliber team. Plus, should the Browns take a QB, #1, Saquon is gonna be there for them without having to make a trade.
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Sounds like an excellent opportunity for us to lose out on the QB we have rated the highest. Would I like to get more assets? Sure. Would I like to absolutely get the QB we want with 100% certainty even more? You bet.
This isn't complicated. Draft the guy you like the most and don't play games with our future.
Sounds like an excellent opportunity for us to lose out on the QB we have rated the highest. Would I like to get more assets? Sure. Would I like to absolutely get the QB we want with 100% certainty even more? You bet.
This isn't complicated. Draft the guy you like the most and don't play games with our future.
More than likely the BROWNS will pick a QB with the #1 or 4 the way things appear to be going right now.
I'm basically scrapping the 2018 season as a 5 win maximum season and going for 2019 to compete, one thing for sure they can address a slew of needs all over the place. After 1-31 I've turned into a grumpy ol' realist.
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Sounds like an excellent opportunity for us to lose out on the QB we have rated the highest. Would I like to get more assets? Sure. Would I like to absolutely get the QB we want with 100% certainty even more? You bet.
This isn't complicated. Draft the guy you like the most and don't play games with our future.
More than likely the BROWNS will pick a QB with the #1 or 4 the way things appear to be going right now.
I'm basically scrapping the 2018 season as a 5 win maximum season and going for 2019 to compete, one thing for sure they can address a slew of needs all over the place. After 1-31 I've turned into a grumpy ol' realist.
More than likely the BROWNS will pick a QB with the #1 or 4 the way things appear to be going right now.
I'm basically scrapping the 2018 season as a 5 win maximum season and going for 2019 to compete, one thing for sure they can address a slew of needs all over the place. After 1-31 I've turned into a grumpy ol' realist.
It will depend who they get as the "bridge" QB. McCown won 5 games with a roster as talent depleted as the Browns. If Kizer hadn't been epically bad, we probably would have won a few games last year.
I currently just don't see the Browns in the market for Cousins.
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I don't think they brought Dorsey in here to act like Ray Farmer, Sashi Brown, etc. The combo of trading down and drafting poorly/reaching has killed this franchise.
I'd rather stand pat, not make any trades,and go down swinging than trade these assets away.
I don't think they brought Dorsey in here to act like Ray Farmer, Sashi Brown, etc. The combo of trading down and drafting poorly/reaching has killed this franchise.
I'd rather stand pat, not make any trades,and go down swinging than trade these assets away.
Well said Bob!!!
I agree, Dorsey & his boys were brought here to get QUALITY rather than quantity. I wouldn't mind trading UP to improve the quality of picks AFTER #4, but I'm extremely tired of trading down.
Mike
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If the Browns take the Colts deal, trade down, and don't get their desired QB, anarchy would reign in Cleveland haha.
If the Browns take the Colts deal, trade down, and don't get their desired QB, anarchy would reign in Cleveland haha.
And that would differ from now @ 1-31 exactly how?
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Luck is done,Colts are trading up for a QB
Smart move by Colts. If Foles decides on starter money? Frank Reich will have the inside track to Foles out of division. Reich is a good dude, watch his back-up again hire at Colts presser. Reports read Frank is trying to hire Don Beebe as his WR coach.. still see Colts/NYG figuring out a small trade down to best OLman.. Denver should also look OL, but Elway can't do anything smart in drafting..Including his QB's
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If the Browns take the Colts deal, trade down, and don't get their desired QB, anarchy would reign in Cleveland haha.
And that would differ from now @ 1-31 exactly how?
And that would differ from now @ 1-31 exactly how?
It would be among the fans. The team is a bumbling mess until notified otherwise haha.
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If the Browns take the Colts deal, trade down, and don't get their desired QB, anarchy would reign in Cleveland haha.
And that would differ from now @ 1-31 exactly how?
And that would differ from now @ 1-31 exactly how?
Yeah the scary part was they were a wisker from being 0-32
Futility on a nuclear scale.
Whether you're 1-31 or 0-16 or whatever you have major and numerous holes starting with team management, hopefully some of that has been addressed.
Fortunately they have some good young players but still need an experienced starting quarterback (cue dead horse pictures) and other key position fills.
Feel free to update your own personal list and *hooray* for 12 picks in April!
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Just know that if, over the next two years, the Browns go 15-1 and 16-0 that Hue Jackson will have raised his career coaching record to .500!!
(hey...he was 8-8 with the Raiders, no?)
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Just know that if, over the next two years, the Browns go 15-1 and 16-0 that Hue Jackson will have raised his career coaching record to .500!!
(hey...he was 8-8 with the Raiders, no?)
Just know that if, over the next two years, the Browns go 15-1 and 16-0 that Hue Jackson will have raised his career coaching record to .500!!
(hey...he was 8-8 with the Raiders, no?)
Oh yeah he'll move to the BROWNS v2.0 head of the class.... (revised 1-31 .031 worst in NFL ,history)
All-Time Head Coaches
Name League Years Regular Season Records Playoff Records Combined Records Hue Jackson NFL 2016- 1-15-0 (.063) 0-0-0 (0.000) 1-15-0 (.063) Mike Pettine NFL 2014-15 10-22-0 (0.313) 0-0-0 (0.000) 10-22-0 (0.313) Rob Chudzinski NFL 2013 4-12-0 (0.250) 0-0-0 (0.000) 4-12-0 (0.250) Pat Shurmur NFL 2011-12 9-23-0 (0.281) 0-0-0 (0.000) 9-23-0 (0.281) Eric Mangini NFL 2009-10 10-22-0 (0.3125) 0-0-0 (0.000) 10-22-0 (0.3125) Romeo Crennel NFL 2005-08 24-40-0 (0.375) 0-0-0 (0.000) 24-40-0 (0.375) Terry Robiskie NFL 2004* 1-4-0 (0.200) 0-0-0 (0.000) 1-4-0 (0.200) Butch Davis NFL 2001-04 24-35-0 (0.407) 0-1-0 (0.000) 24-36-0 (0.400) Chris Palmer NFL 1999-2000 5-27-0 (0.156) 0-0-0 (0.000) 5-27-0 (0.156)
Bill Belichick NFL 1991-95 36-44-0 (0.450) 1-1-0 (0.500) 37-45-0 (0.451) Jim Shofner NFL 1990* 1-6-0 (0.143) 0-0-0 (0.000) 1-6-0 (0.143) Bud Carson NFL 1989-90 11-13-1 (0.458) 1-1-0 (0.500) 12-14-1 (0.462)
Marty Schottenheimer NFL 1984-88 44-27-0 (0.620) 2-4-0 (0.333) 46-31-0 (0.597) Sam Rutigliano NFL 1978-84 47-50-0 (0.485) 0-2-0 (0.000) 47-52-0 (0.475) finger Modzelewski NFL 1977* 0-1-0 (0.000) 0-0-0 (0.000) 0-1-0 (0.000) Forrest Gregg NFL 1975-77 18-23-0 (0.485) 0-0-0 (0.000) 18-23-0 (0.439) Nick Skorich NFL 1971-74 30-24-2 (0.556) 0-2-0 (0.000) 30-26-2 (0.536) Blanton Collier NFL 1963-70 76-34-2 (0.691) 3-4-0 (0.429) 79-38-2 (0.675) Paul Brown NFL 1950-62 111-44-5 (0.691) 4-5-0 (0.444) 115-49-5 (0.701) Paul Brown AAFC 1946-49 47-4-3 (0.922) 5-0-0 (1.000) 52-4-3 (0.929) -
So.....lets put that in proper order: Best to worst:
1. Paul Brown .759
2. Blanton Collier .675
3. Marty Schottenheimer .597
4. Nick Skorich .536
5. Sam Rutigliano .475
6. Bud Carson .462
7. Bill Belichick .451
8. Forrest Gregg .439
9. Butch Davis .400
10. Romeo Crennell .375
11. Mike Pettine .313
12. Eric Mangini .3125
13. Pat Shurmur .281
14. Rob Chudzinski .250
15. Terry Robiskie .200 (Interim 1-4)
16. Chris Palmer .156
17. Jim Shofner .143 (Interim 1-6)
18. Hue Jackson .063
19. D-i-c-k Modzewlewski .00 (Interim....0-1)
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That is something I never knew - Paul Brown and Blanton Collier had the same exact win % as HC of the NFL Browns.
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