Tyrod Tarkenton
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So you think it's more important to draft a RB #1 than a QB?
Do you realize that you sound just like PoeticG? - I want you to think about that for a minute.....
If you drat #1 and #2, you take the RB first. You can set the tone for salary, as a RB is not going to get what a #1 #1 QB will get. If you pick #1 and #2, you don't risk losing the QB you want. You STILL get the guy you want. Rosen, Mayfield, etc? All the same risk, take your pick and spin the wheel. Take the QB #2, pay him less, he will be around longer than the RB, if he is a great QB. Pay less now? Pay less 5 years from now.
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It befuddles me how many of you insist on attempt to debate a troll like Ghoolie. He isn't here to discuss the Browns, debate about the Browns, or share ideas about the Browns.
He's literally here solely to get a rise out of Browns fans and to fill whatever hole in his life needs filled by getting attention. Perhaps he wasn't hugged enough as a child. Who knows, don't care.
A lot of what he says is spot on the money and you guys don't want to hear it. Tyrod is very much like Kiser but he is better.
That's troubling because the only guy to draft in that mold is Lamar Jackson.
BT4
A lot of what he says is spot on the money and you guys don't want to hear it. Tyrod is very much like Kiser but he is better.
That's troubling because the only guy to draft in that mold is Lamar Jackson.
BT4
Yes, Tyrod is much like Kizer.
One is tall, innacurrate and a turnover machine.
The other is short, accurate, and protects the football like very few in the NFL do.
Oh wait ... I get it, they are African American and they run well.
Running well ... well, that's an asset for quarterbacks.
African American ... that's an ethnicity.
Could you paint with a broader brush?
Yes, we have a black head coach and we replaced our black starter with another black starter.
Wow. "Look how they stick together!"
Here is who is white in this story:
Deshone Kizer's mom.
Cody Kessler, 1st draft choice under Hue, former Browns starter.
Kevin Hogan, who Hue gave a chance to start last year.
Drew Stanton, who we just signed to a two year contract.
Josh McCown, started several games for Hue when healthy.
Touchdown Jesus, emergency QB.
Todd Haley, who Hue hired to be OC.
Ken Zampese, who Hue hired as QB coach.
John Dorsey, our GM who controls the roster, traded for Taylor, signed Stanton, traded Kessler and will make the draft pick.
Jimmy Haslem who owns the team and approves of all of this.
But ... Taylor and Kizer are both dark-skinned and run fast, so Ghoolie is on to something!
Ghoolie is a fool. A common clown. Race-baiting is the low hanging fruit of American culture.
He'll get a lot of views, he'll get a lot of clicks, he'll get a lot of responses ... hell, even I couldn't help but chime in on the ignorance this time.
But it makes our board look stupid. Threads like this make us look ignorant.
And that's my problem with Ghoolie. Not the man himself, never met him, but what he does to a place that I used to be proud of, a place that is still dear to my heart.
I'm embarrassed thinking of the Browns fan guest that finds this site looking for camaraderie and reads this horse shit.
Darnold is white, Barkley is brown, draft them both and dominate some fucking black and yellow ass for once in my lifetime, please!
Zombo
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So you think it's more important to draft a RB #1 than a QB?
Do you realize that you sound just like PoeticG? - I want you to think about that for a minute.....
If you drat #1 and #2, you take the RB first. You can set the tone for salary, as a RB is not going to get what a #1 #1 QB will get. If you pick #1 and #2, you don't risk losing the QB you want. You STILL get the guy you want. Rosen, Mayfield, etc? All the same risk, take your pick and spin the wheel. Take the QB #2, pay him less, he will be around longer than the RB, if he is a great QB. Pay less now? Pay less 5 years from now.
If you drat #1 and #2, you take the RB first. You can set the tone for salary, as a RB is not going to get what a #1 #1 QB will get. If you pick #1 and #2, you don't risk losing the QB you want. You STILL get the guy you want. Rosen, Mayfield, etc? All the same risk, take your pick and spin the wheel. Take the QB #2, pay him less, he will be around longer than the RB, if he is a great QB. Pay less now? Pay less 5 years from now.
You just dont see how you say stupid things that make ENTIRELY no sense, but say them like they are facts.
Again, you have told everyone every chance you get that Coleman and Garrett are busts, and since you are smarter than every person on the planet you are right, but then turn around and say they can get you the #2 pick. NO. If they suck, they aren't getting you anything close. Look at the draft picks that REALLY good players have gotten this off-season
Yes GM of the future, you did contradict yourself. You start this long rants by complaining the Browns never take a QB #1 #1. Then the very next statement is Barkley is best player, he should be the pick. That is contradiction. If they take your golden boy Barkley at #1 LIKE YOU WANT, then they wouldn't be taking a QB #1. So then by Ghoolie logic, you HAVE to complain they did what YOU wanted.
As Gipper pointed out, you have also been so wrong about the Browns not drafting skill positions high. In fact, in the history of the team, they have had the #1 pick 4 times, and 50% of the time they have taken the QB. Now if your argument were they had taken the WRONG skill players then you would have a point, but when you say they don't take them you are WRONG.
It is also incredibly ironic that before a player that you didn't like has taken a snap that you call them a bust, but when someone you like has had LESS production, you think they need more time. And if I ask 100 people off the street how the Browns will do, they would all say they suck. But you're a genius because you "predicted" it.
Last thing, you have now given yourself an even better chance to be "right" about the QB's, as you started the off season as Lamar should be the pick, then it was Baker Mayfield, and now I see you add in Rosen here.
P.S.- you said if you draft 1 and 2 you take the RB first and then QB because of the money. Well I believe you are wrong there, BUT that isn't my beef with that statement. Then you make yourself looks very dumb when you say cost less now so less later. That is SO SO SO WRONG I actually feel sorry for you. Whether a player is drafted #1, #2, or 4th round has NO EFFECT on a future contract. You know how I know that? Because 4TH ROUND PICK CAPTAIN KIRK COUSINS JUST RECEIVED THE HIGHEST PAID CONTRACT AND ALL FULLY GUARANTEED.
So now I wait for your profanity laced, racist and homophobic reply that shows your oh so great character. Because while I would tend to think that all this Ghoolie stuff is just a persona/character, when those things are what comes through it shows your character. As for me, I know my character and mind, and Those things dont enter my mind, thus why I dont say them
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Just for the record, the Browns have, in their history, had the #1 overall pick 4 times, and these are the picks:
1954 QB Bobby Garrett, Stanford
1999 QB Tim Couch, Kentucky
2000 DE Courtney Brown Penn St.
2017 DE Myles Garrett Texas A&M
So....two DEs and 2 QBs
All Sheet, save 1954.
All Sheet, save 1954.
Of course, that selection of Bobby Garrett may have been THE single worst draft pick ever made by the Browns......In fact...it may be the worst ever made in the history of the NFL (except for Jay Berwanger who declined to even play in the NFL)
His career numbers:
Passing
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^^^ Troll alert. Hue is fetching Dorsey's coffee- you just haven't gotten the message through your fat head yet. 3-5 or worse at the halfway point, Jackson is bye-bye.
1) Hue wanted to trade a second and third round pick for McCarron, and he wound up where?
2) "Hue- "trust me on Kessler"" bye bye. Interesting Dorsey kept his guy- Hogan, and kicked Cody out the door for a bucket of BW3 wings, deliverable in 2019.
I could go on, but that's plenty enough proof that Hue has minimal influence on what Dorsey decides to do. Wolf, Highsmith, along with Scot McCloughan- consultant for draft- have 10X the say of Hueless the Clueless.
Mcarron was not on Hue's radar long. He wanted him, the Browns bloew it, Hue moved on. Hue likes Black Tarkentons, Dokey DOES NOT.............all the great FA QBs have come and gone.... AGAIN............... we got the fukcker NOBODY wanted. TIE ROD.....................
Hue Jackson still calls the shots. Haslam is afraid of being called a racist, that's how people are in TN, the over-compensate for blacks. Make no mistake, We got black Tarkenton because THAT is what Hue, THE BOSS waned. Dorsey is a coffee fetcher.
Mcarron was not on Hue's radar long. He wanted him, the Browns bloew it, Hue moved on. Hue likes Black Tarkentons, Dokey DOES NOT.............all the great FA QBs have come and gone.... AGAIN............... we got the fukcker NOBODY wanted. TIE ROD.....................
Hue Jackson still calls the shots. Haslam is afraid of being called a racist, that's how people are in TN, the over-compensate for blacks. Make no mistake, We got black Tarkenton because THAT is what Hue, THE BOSS waned. Dorsey is a coffee fetcher.
Who were these "Great" Free Agent QBs out there that we missed on? Other than Drew Brees...who was an FA for a bit....but was never leaving N.O.....none of those QBs were by any means "great".
Cousins? lots of stats, losing record
Keenum? One flash of good....but most of his career a backup
McCarron? P-shaw!
Again....name these great FA QBs that were possibly there for the Browns to get.
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And lets do this: lets break this down similarly just since 1999:
24 First round picks:
10 total on Offensive Skill players
4 on Offensive line
10 on Defense.
So...again....remember, Offensive skill players only constitute 6/22 starters. or 21%
The Browns have used 41.66% of their first round picks on offensive skill players. 16.66% on offensive linemen. And another 41.66 pct. on defense.
With these results:
QBs: 4: Couch, Quinn, Weeden, Manziel
RBs: 2: Richardson, Green
WRs: 2: Edwards and Coleman
TEs: 2: Winslow and Njoku
OTs: 1: Joe Thomas
OCs: 3: Jeff Faine, Alex Mack, Cam Erving
DEs: 3: Courtney Brown, Wimbley, Garrett
DTs: 3: Gerard Warren, Phil Taylor, Danny Shelton
LBs: 1: Mingo
DBs: 3: Haden, Gilbert, Peppers.
So....again.....looking at these: it is NOT the number of high draft picks the Browns have employed on offensive skill players....it is the almost complete LACK of quality that they have gotten out of these picks. They maybe got one decent year out of Richardson and Edwards. Maybe a couple out of Couch...and that is IT.
And note: their picks on Defense have been about as bad as their offensive picks...ore worse. Other than Haden, I dont' think a single other player there has made a single Pro Bowl.
Jesus...compare that to their picks on the OL. Three out of 4 of them were quality players. Erving sucked...but the rest were good. IF only the Browns had been able to get a similar ratio out of the multiplicity of picks they used on skill players....this team could perhaps have actually been something.
And their defensive picks may be worse than their offensive picks. Other than Haden not a single Pro Bowl made by any of them....so far. Peppers and Garrett need to show up and shine.
The Shmucking OL is made up of lard butt, dime-a-dozen tools. YOu can find these jackoffs in the local porn shop.
The Shmucking OL is made up of lard butt, dime-a-dozen tools. YOu can find these jackoffs in the local porn shop.
And yet....they are the only guys drafted the Browns in this period that did their jobs at a decent level.
At least we can go to a porn shop and get them......we can't get skill players even at the porn shop....
I mean, we keep picking what seem to be the best apples on the tree....yet they are all full of worms.
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It befuddles me how many of you insist on attempt to debate a troll like Ghoolie. He isn't here to discuss the Browns, debate about the Browns, or share ideas about the Browns.
He's literally here solely to get a rise out of Browns fans and to fill whatever hole in his life needs filled by getting attention. Perhaps he wasn't hugged enough as a child. Who knows, don't care.
It befuddles me how many of you insist on attempt to debate a troll like Ghoolie. He isn't here to discuss the Browns, debate about the Browns, or share ideas about the Browns.
He's literally here solely to get a rise out of Browns fans and to fill whatever hole in his life needs filled by getting attention. Perhaps he wasn't hugged enough as a child. Who knows, don't care.
You demeaned Ghoolie's knowledge of Steeler football history....yet I did not see you take up the challenge on the thread I posted.
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It befuddles me how many of you insist on attempt to debate a troll like Ghoolie. He isn't here to discuss the Browns, debate about the Browns, or share ideas about the Browns.
He's literally here solely to get a rise out of Browns fans and to fill whatever hole in his life needs filled by getting attention. Perhaps he wasn't hugged enough as a child. Who knows, don't care.
A lot of what he says is spot on the money and you guys don't want to hear it. Tyrod is very much like Kiser but he is better.
That's troubling because the only guy to draft in that mold is Lamar Jackson.
BT4
A lot of what he says is spot on the money and you guys don't want to hear it. Tyrod is very much like Kiser but he is better.
That's troubling because the only guy to draft in that mold is Lamar Jackson.
BT4
Are you high?.. Tyrod couldnt lick Kosars jock.. They are nothing like each other at all...
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A lot of what he says is spot on the money and you guys don't want to hear it. Tyrod is very much like Kiser but he is better.
That's troubling because the only guy to draft in that mold is Lamar Jackson.
BT4
Congrats.
You've managed to lump three black guys together who are QBs.
Congrats.
You've managed to lump three black guys together who are QBs.
Raciss?
All 3 have similar styles of play. Deshaun Watson seemed to have adapted , but IIRC he was hurt running with the ball.
The blue chip QBs are not really runners - Brees, Brady, Rogers, Ryan,
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A lot of what he says is spot on the money and you guys don't want to hear it. Tyrod is very much like Kiser but he is better.
That's troubling because the only guy to draft in that mold is Lamar Jackson.
BT4
Are you high?.. Tyrod couldnt lick Kosars jock.. They are nothing like each other at all...
Are you high?.. Tyrod couldnt lick Kosars jock.. They are nothing like each other at all...
Kosar?
What do you mean?
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Congrats.
You've managed to lump three black guys together who are QBs.
Raciss?
All 3 have similar styles of play. Deshaun Watson seemed to have adapted , but IIRC he was hurt running with the ball.
The blue chip QBs are not really runners - Brees, Brady, Rogers, Ryan,
Raciss?
All 3 have similar styles of play. Deshaun Watson seemed to have adapted , but IIRC he was hurt running with the ball.
The blue chip QBs are not really runners - Brees, Brady, Rogers, Ryan,
Aaron Rodgers, the guy with nearly 2700 rushing yards and 25 rushing TD's doesn't run? Good to know! Too bad he's not black though right?
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It befuddles me how many of you insist on attempt to debate a troll like Ghoolie. He isn't here to discuss the Browns, debate about the Browns, or share ideas about the Browns.
He's literally here solely to get a rise out of Browns fans and to fill whatever hole in his life needs filled by getting attention. Perhaps he wasn't hugged enough as a child. Who knows, don't care.
You demeaned Ghoolie's knowledge of Steeler football history....yet I did not see you take up the challenge on the thread I posted.
You demeaned Ghoolie's knowledge of Steeler football history....yet I did not see you take up the challenge on the thread I posted.
I'm a Browns fan.
Shmuck the Steelers, Shmuck their history, and Shmuck Ghoolie.
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Raciss?
All 3 have similar styles of play. Deshaun Watson seemed to have adapted , but IIRC he was hurt running with the ball.
The blue chip QBs are not really runners - Brees, Brady, Rogers, Ryan,
Aaron Rodgers, the guy with nearly 2700 rushing yards and 25 rushing TD's doesn't run? Good to know! Too bad he's not black though right?
Aaron Rodgers, the guy with nearly 2700 rushing yards and 25 rushing TD's doesn't run? Good to know! Too bad he's not black though right?
Fail
525 rushing attempts divided by 149 games = 3.5 attempts per game.
2670 rushing yards divided by 525 attempts = 5.1 yards a carry.
3.5 attempts x 5.1 yac = 17.85 yards per game.
Who knew NFL QBs ran to pick up 1st downs when passing plays break down. Is rushing the ball a big part of Rodgers game? Not on this planet.
https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/R/RodgAa00.htm
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Kosar?
What do you mean?
My bad for the typo ... Though Kizer said Kosar. blame My eyes.. All the freakin meds don't help it any...,, .. But all the same.. Kizer is a turnover machine... At least Tyrod protects the ball..
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Oh yes boo, I forgot.
Kizer was a run-first QB (because he's black and that's what they all do, I suppose) who also held onto the ball too long and got himself sacked all the time.
Makes absolutely no sense?
Well welcome to this board!
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The Shmucking OL is made up of lard butt, dime-a-dozen tools. YOu can find these jackoffs in the local porn shop.
And yet....they are the only guys drafted the Browns in this period that did their jobs at a decent level.
At least we can go to a porn shop and get them......we can't get skill players even at the porn shop....
I mean, we keep picking what seem to be the best apples on the tree....yet they are all full of worms.
And yet....they are the only guys drafted the Browns in this period that did their jobs at a decent level.
At least we can go to a porn shop and get them......we can't get skill players even at the porn shop....
I mean, we keep picking what seem to be the best apples on the tree....yet they are all full of worms.
They did a decent job? 1 - 31. Tell me about that "decent" job. Fukcking idiotic
The Cleveland Browns have the hardest hit players in the NFL -
You demeaned Ghoolie's knowledge of Steeler football history....yet I did not see you take up the challenge on the thread I posted.
I'm a Browns fan.
Shmuck the Steelers, Shmuck their history, and Shmuck Ghoolie.
I'm a Browns fan.
Shmuck the Steelers, Shmuck their history, and Shmuck Ghoolie.
The guy voted for Hillary. He is a liberal, a coward. When challenged on a topic, his lack of wit and wisdom find him attacking the poster. You posted a great Steeler trivia quiz. I didn't see him anywhere. Again, I have forgotten more about football that he has ever known.
The Cleveland Browns have the hardest hit players in the NFL -
Mcarron was not on Hue's radar long. He wanted him, the Browns bloew it, Hue moved on. Hue likes Black Tarkentons, Dokey DOES NOT.............all the great FA QBs have come and gone.... AGAIN............... we got the fukcker NOBODY wanted. TIE ROD.....................
Hue Jackson still calls the shots. Haslam is afraid of being called a racist, that's how people are in TN, the over-compensate for blacks. Make no mistake, We got black Tarkenton because THAT is what Hue, THE BOSS waned. Dorsey is a coffee fetcher.
Who were these "Great" Free Agent QBs out there that we missed on? Other than Drew Brees...who was an FA for a bit....but was never leaving N.O.....none of those QBs were by any means "great".
Cousins? lots of stats, losing record
Keenum? One flash of good....but most of his career a backup
McCarron? P-shaw!
Again....name these great FA QBs that were possibly there for the Browns to get.
Who were these "Great" Free Agent QBs out there that we missed on? Other than Drew Brees...who was an FA for a bit....but was never leaving N.O.....none of those QBs were by any means "great".
Cousins? lots of stats, losing record
Keenum? One flash of good....but most of his career a backup
McCarron? P-shaw!
Again....name these great FA QBs that were possibly there for the Browns to get.
We have Tie Rod. Checkmate.
The Cleveland Browns have the hardest hit players in the NFL -
I'm a Browns fan.
Shmuck the Steelers, Shmuck their history, and Shmuck Ghoolie.
The guy voted for Hillary. He is a liberal, a coward. When challenged on a topic, his lack of wit and wisdom find him attacking the poster. You posted a great Steeler trivia quiz. I didn't see him anywhere. Again, I have forgotten more about football that he has ever known.
The guy voted for Hillary. He is a liberal, a coward. When challenged on a topic, his lack of wit and wisdom find him attacking the poster. You posted a great Steeler trivia quiz. I didn't see him anywhere. Again, I have forgotten more about football that he has ever known.
You rambled on about how you schooled a Steelers fan on their history and couldn't even get through your self-congratulating spiel without making a mistake. Good thing the guy was dumber than you are.
Lets never forget the fact that you were thrown off this board, but went and cried to your boy who runs it and begged to be allowed back on, because you need attention so, so much. How sad. How desperate. How Ghoolie.
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