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  • b86bB b86b

    Depends on how long it takes the FO to realize that JH really screwed them and its time to move on..If they keep throwing him out there just because, then yes it will be the EOW.

    D BoneD D Bone wrote on
    #7056

    @b86b said:

    Depends on how long it takes the FO to realize that JH really screwed them and its time to move on..If they keep throwing him out there just because, then yes it will be the EOW.

    Exactly. Recognize it quickly and move on, it stings, but try to keep pounding that short, square peg into that star shaped hole, and it will be devastating.

  • Kennel ClubK Kennel Club wrote on
    #7057

    Manziel only cost the Browns Trent Richardson. Compare this to what Washington had to give up to get RG3. Nothing ventured, nothing gained.

    Woof Woof!
    Flyin JF Opal312O 2 Replies
  • darkside5D darkside5 wrote on
    #7058

    Sometimes you just have to laugh to keep from crying.

    GO BROWNS !

  • darkside5D darkside5

    Sometimes you just have to laugh to keep from crying.

    GO BROWNS !

    Kennel ClubK Kennel Club wrote on
    #7059

    @darkside5 said:

    Sometimes you just have to laugh to keep from crying.

    GO BROWNS !

    This ^

    Woof Woof!
  • OldBrownsFanO OldBrownsFan wrote on
    #7060

    You might be right ^^ but I still would have felt alot better about the clowning around if the Browns were up 23-0 and dominating the Bengals at that moment.

  • IbleedbrownI Ibleedbrown wrote on
    #7061

    I agree, not the end of the world. They should be able to tell something in these next 2 games. His athletic ability is solid, it's the recognition of what's going on past the line that he needs to get much better at.

    LumberghL 1 Reply
  • Browns149B Browns149

    I would disagree on Buf, Wash, TB being set at QB. All 3 are in need of an upgrade at the very least

    Flyin JF Flyin J wrote on
    #7062

    @browns149 said:

    I would disagree on Buf, Wash, TB being set at QB. All 3 are in need of an upgrade at the very least

    Im not saying theyre set long term, but the QBs there deserve or will get another year. TB may make a huge QB splash in the draft, but McCown may start over the rookie anyways.
  • Kennel ClubK Kennel Club

    Manziel only cost the Browns Trent Richardson. Compare this to what Washington had to give up to get RG3. Nothing ventured, nothing gained.

    Flyin JF Flyin J wrote on
    #7063

    @kennel-club said:

    Manziel only cost the Browns Trent Richardson. Compare this to what Washington had to give up to get RG3. Nothing ventured, nothing gained.

    Monetarily the Browns made out pretty good on that #3 pick. They sold a crap ton of Richardson jerseys, then flipped him for Manziel, and I cant imagine what theyve made off royalties from him.
  • Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on
    #7064

    Yes... Johnny was the fourth and final Horseman, Death.

    The first, Conquest, was Couch.

    The second, War, was Quinn.

    The third, Famine, Wheezy.

    The set is now complete. If Johnny fails, then comes the rapture...

    300px-Apocalypse_vasnetsov.jpg

    "When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196
    👍
  • Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on
    #7065

    Just a lot of inexperience in our O-line depth.

    Nick McDonald was a OG/OT in college and got work at Center with NE. He was only pressed into service after our Vet back-up, Paul McQuistan, SDHL* at RG vs. JAX that saw Greco at Center. Nick was developing before his ankle injury.

    Ryan was next up, so we're now 4-deep at Center. And now Ryan is improving.

    Besides experience the glaring thing that none of our fill-ins, save Greco, have shown is the strength to play the position.

    ______________________________

    * Shit Down His Leg

    "When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196
  • Browns149B Browns149 wrote on
    #7066

    "And they don't really know even what they're talkin' about And I can't imagine what empty heads can achieve."
  • T TexasAg1969 wrote on
    #7067

    BH: Maybe we should go duck hunting tomorrow.

    JM: Yeah we both threw enough up there so should be a good day.

    BH: Well except for the 4 the DB's ran off with.

  • L larryfine wrote on
    #7068

    Maybe they were lauging at the 50 mill that holmgren ripped the browns off for!

  • Flyin JF Flyin J

    @lbc-mike said:

    It's our way of doing things. Seems like allot of teams right now are trying to figure out what they have. There might be about ten teams that set with their qb.

    only ten? SD, Den, KC, Pit, Bal, Cin, Ind, NE, Mia, Dal,, Atl, NO, Car, GB, Det, Sea are set. Teams that probably wont make a big move and may be set are Oak, Jax, Buf, NYG, Was, Phi, TB, Min, SF, Ari. Some of those teams may make moves but I believe their QBs still have value. Teams in trouble are Cle, Hou, Ten, NYJ, Chi, Stl.
    Opal312O Opal312 wrote on
    #7069

    XxDaBuckeyexX said:

    only ten? SD, Den, KC, Pit, Bal, Cin, Ind, NE, Mia, Dal,, Atl, NO, Car, GB, Det, Sea are set. Teams that probably wont make a big move and may be set are Oak, Jax, Buf, NYG, Was, Phi, TB, Min, SF, Ari. Some of those teams may make moves but I believe their QBs still have value. Teams in trouble are Cle, Hou, Ten, NYJ, Chi, Stl.

    Living here in Tampa, I know they're going Winston or Mariota. Lovie Smith does not like Glennon and McCown was a bust.

    DAMN THE TORPEDOES! FULL SPEED AHEAD!
    MudflyM 1 Reply
  • Opal312O Opal312 wrote on
    #7070

    @everlastingxxx said:

    Id say the Cowboys need to draft a qb soon. Romo is not going to last much longer. Payton Manning is getting old too.

    Broncos have Osweiler

    DAMN THE TORPEDOES! FULL SPEED AHEAD!
  • Kennel ClubK Kennel Club

    Manziel only cost the Browns Trent Richardson. Compare this to what Washington had to give up to get RG3. Nothing ventured, nothing gained.

    Opal312O Opal312 wrote on
    #7071

    @kennel-club said:

    Manziel only cost the Browns Trent Richardson. Compare this to what Washington had to give up to get RG3. Nothing ventured, nothing gained.

    You said it. All we gave up is Trent Richardson. So no way is this the end of the world as we know it. I disagreed with the pick but he's only played ONE game with a broken down O line. No one could expect miracles.

    DAMN THE TORPEDOES! FULL SPEED AHEAD!
  • Opal312O Opal312

    XxDaBuckeyexX said:

    only ten? SD, Den, KC, Pit, Bal, Cin, Ind, NE, Mia, Dal,, Atl, NO, Car, GB, Det, Sea are set. Teams that probably wont make a big move and may be set are Oak, Jax, Buf, NYG, Was, Phi, TB, Min, SF, Ari. Some of those teams may make moves but I believe their QBs still have value. Teams in trouble are Cle, Hou, Ten, NYJ, Chi, Stl.

    Living here in Tampa, I know they're going Winston or Mariota. Lovie Smith does not like Glennon and McCown was a bust.

    MudflyM Mudfly wrote on
    #7072

    @opal312 said:

    Living here in Tampa, I know they're going Winston or Mariota. Lovie Smith does not like Glennon and McCown was a bust.

    I would at least look at Glennon if they decide cut him loose.....he looked fair for being on a pretty bad team.....

  • Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on
    #7073

    And I would look at McCown... The 2013 Josh would do us just fine and technically it would not add another name to the jersey.

    But if set free, should Trestman survive in CHI, then he goes back there.

    Just can't warm up to a Disney Ichabod Crane look-alike...

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  • S SkippinTurtles

    Other than him being a polarizing figure, 1st rd. picks miss all the time. See what he's got. If he sucks, move on.

    LumberghL Lumbergh wrote on
    #7074

    @skippinturtles said:

    Other than him being a polarizing figure, 1st rd. picks miss all the time. See what he's got. If he sucks, move on.

    He does suck and its already time to move on. Just trade him for a 6th rounder and get it over with.

    DieHardBrownsFanD 1 Reply
  • IbleedbrownI Ibleedbrown

    I agree, not the end of the world. They should be able to tell something in these next 2 games. His athletic ability is solid, it's the recognition of what's going on past the line that he needs to get much better at.

    LumberghL Lumbergh wrote on
    #7075

    @ibleedbrown said:

    I agree, not the end of the world. They should be able to tell something in these next 2 games. His athletic ability is solid, it's the recognition of what's going on past the line that he needs to get much better at.

    He won't learn that in the NFL, he'll just get his ass kicked over and over. He should give the CFL a shot. He'd probably be awesome up there. He could be the next Anthony Calvillo.

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