Jonathan Paul Manziel
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next season will tell.
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"I never liked Manziel as a prospect."
That tainted the article which is another in a long line of self serving I told you so's.
One thing I think he failed to get a real handle on is JF's missing meetings. If I'm the Browns FO I insist to JF that if he wants a future in this organization, then he will be required to attend alcohol education classes. You can do this without calling someone an alcoholic since true ones go right to denial anyway. But you can insist he learn that if alcohol has caused you problems such as oversleeping, failure to set alarms, missing work or rehab. etc., then you have a problem with alcohol. It is much harder to deny it has caused you problems than it is to deny alcoholism. It's a tactic I took often with people in a 30 year counseling career. Best thing is you use no labels such as "addict", "alcoholic" etc. and stick to the facts of what problems it has caused in a person's life.
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The off-the-field stuff reeks of immaturity but I am not close enough to the situation to make a judgment and would rather not rely on media reports and social media, I prefer to give the kid the benefit of the doubt when it comes to growing up and taking the job more seriously.
But THIS is exactly what I saw too:
Manziel looked overwhelmed, managing only a field goal in his time as starter. More disturbing was how pedestrian Manziel appeared physically. First-round picks are supposed to be the most gifted of the gifted. Manziel isn’t.
We can debate whether his 5-foot-11¾ frame is an issue. What’s clear to me is his vaunted athleticism didn’t translate from Texas A&M to the NFL. The arm strength is average, the speed unimpressive.
Manziel can zip the ball, but only if the circumstances are perfect: clean pocket, time and room to set his feet and torque his body. Those variables rarely happen in the NFL. A quarterback needs a strong enough arm to make throws on the move and in traffic.
I saw plenty of Manziel in training camp to get an accurate read of his arm. What wasn’t evident until the regular season was how he couldn’t affect the game with his legs.
He made the nice 10-yard touchdown run versus Buffalo when the middle of the field was wide open. But with the Bengals and Panthers prepared for him, he looked slow and did nothing on the ground. The defensive ends were as fast as he was, and the linebackers faster.
Physically, he looked very pedestrian to me. Beyond worrisome. Like we drafted a guy in the first round that should be playing in Canada.
Zombo
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The right quarterback pick in the last draft would have put the club in a really good position right now. As it is we again have a huge quarterback issue going into next season. We can't afford what it would cost to pick up Mariota, we have to improve both our offensive and defensive lines. It would have been nice to have seen JM taking this season more seriously and to have worked harder to improve his play. Connor Shaw looked more confident and in control of the offense than JM and Shaw never had the opportunity all season to work with the offense like JM.
Hoyer may be gone soon and I personally see him as our best hope for a good season this year. The other options I see as a lot less promising of drafting a QB and the time it would take to develop, Manziel living up to his hype, or a bringing in a veteran quarterback.
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Don't care right now. Glad the season is over.
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X fortunately I think the Browns have a little too much pride to realize this.if the only two quarterbacks on the Browns roster was Brian Hoyer and Conner Shaw with the same record attitudes towards this team would be much more positive. plus the Browns would have way more options going forward at the quarterback position. they could re-sign Hoyer and have the ability to draft any quarterback in any round of the draft and people would be pumped.
unfortunately they're going to let the guy that is obviously 100% better than Johnny Manziel walk and probably rig free agency by bringing in a veteran thatin their own mind justify starting Menzel week 1. believe it or not I am NOT looking forward to the 2015 Brown's campaign. and that in itself is complete bullshit after the steps this team made this year
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Who knows. The Johnny train may not have derailed, but it is wobbling for sure.
Guess we will find out by the end of August at the earliest, end of Oct. at the latest.
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maybe this might do it.
i know the season is over but THIS is funny. guess his popularity is running a little low nowadays........even in texas.
http://m.tmz.com/#Article/2015/01/05/johnny-manziel-drinks-thrown-at-qb-at-houston-nightclub
tmz sports. lol.
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maybe this might do it.
i know the season is over but THIS is funny. guess his popularity is running a little low nowadays........even in texas.
http://m.tmz.com/#Article/2015/01/05/johnny-manziel-drinks-thrown-at-qb-at-houston-nightclub
tmz sports. lol.
maybe this might do it.
i know the season is over but THIS is funny. guess his popularity is running a little low nowadays........even in texas.
http://m.tmz.com/#Article/2015/01/05/johnny-manziel-drinks-thrown-at-qb-at-houston-nightclub
tmz sports. lol.
Really? I mean really?
"You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.” - Janis Joplin, 1970. -
maybe this might do it.
i know the season is over but THIS is funny. guess his popularity is running a little low nowadays........even in texas.
http://m.tmz.com/#Article/2015/01/05/johnny-manziel-drinks-thrown-at-qb-at-houston-nightclub
tmz sports. lol.
Really? I mean really?
Really? I mean really?
really.
i mean if i were the embarrassment of a franchise (if not the league) and i was serious about turning myself around and becoming a legit nfl QB i think i'd be in the first QB camp there was, i'd be with my QB guru the day after i cleaned out my locker and i'd be doing a 'rocky' for the 6 months leading up to training camp.
but no. let's go out to a club where everyone will recognize me and my face will be splattered all over the internet even though i know i'm skating on thin ice with the team that drafted me.
i'm betting this is going to be the ongoing theme throughout the offseason as manziel thinks he has the tools already and doesn't have to work for it OR he just doesn't give a shit. or both.
or maybe his end game is he wants out of cleveland.
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i don't think its Cleveland. its him
but with this type of behavior, i think there is a plan. out of all his other shortcomings (hee hee) being stupid is not one.
he could be shoving this in ownership's face in order for him to get traded or cut, hoping that one of the texas teams will bite. therefore getting him home and into an even bigger media circus where his brand will only grow.
his stock is only going to continue to drop in cleveland if he doesn't turn it around....and fast. and by all accounts he just doesn't give a fuck.
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You know, I'm really starting to think he really is trying to get out of Cleveland, by whatever means necessary.
Because nobody is this stupid, right?
Right?!?
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Nope, just laying back. You haven't been ridiculous.
I'll have some more thoughts tomorrow but basically he looks terrible against Cincinnati. I think anyone who cares to be fair they would admit the entire team really did look horrible.
Brian Hoyer looked just as bad the game before when our defense shut down Andrew Luck and gave him two touchdowns.
WSS
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Nope, just laying back. You haven't been ridiculous.
I'll have some more thoughts tomorrow but basically he looks terrible against Cincinnati. I think anyone who cares to be fair they would admit the entire team really did look horrible.
Brian Hoyer looked just as bad the game before when our defense shut down Andrew Luck and gave him two touchdowns.
WSS
Nope, just laying back. You haven't been ridiculous.
I'll have some more thoughts tomorrow but basically he looks terrible against Cincinnati. I think anyone who cares to be fair they would admit the entire team really did look horrible.
Brian Hoyer looked just as bad the game before when our defense shut down Andrew Luck and gave him two touchdowns.
WSS
at this point it's got nothing to do with the past season or what brian hoyer did. it's about what manziel continues to do. and when it comes to training and going to the next level to become a nfl qb he is doing nothing.
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In his mind, he worked really hard this season. He had to show up to an actual job every day on time, and he couldn't even handle that much. He 100% believes he earned his vacay and is going to enjoy every second of it.
This incident is much ado about nothing, but when you compound it with everything else he has done and said, its going to be blown out of proportion. Sooner or later this kind of thing is going to turn into something ugly. Whether it's his direct doing or just because hes an easy target now. His level of play is not worth all the headache that comes with him. Course, I knew this back in May.
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