Hue fired
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It was obvious as the nose on your face that Haley and Hue weren't going to get along. Haley didn't respect Hue's "candy-butt" way of leadership, and Hue wanted nothing to do with any OC coming in and taking his offense over.
And I never got the impression Mayfield wanted anything to do with him. Every time Hue would talk to him, Baker seemed to have this look on his face like: "Dude, I'm barely even going to bother learning your name, because I know you aren't long for this place."
Never a Hue fan, but I gave him the benefit of doubt, much like the Browns did, right up to the Steeler game. Not a fan of change to make change.
But, after that game I was in a conversation with Marko and a few others and we were debating who gets fired, Hue or Haley, and I said "Fire them both tonight".
I looked past the 1-31, this was a new beginning. But you played Pittsburgh to a draw over 5 quarters in week one, and now you look like a college team in the second half against them. That's regression. And, as for Haley, if he can't take commands or criticism ... good luck to ya.
I think Baker is in better hands with Freddie Kitchens the rest of the year, he knows Haley's offense inside and out, and has probably been wanting to throw in some of his own stuff, and as a former QB, he is going to protect Baker as well as give him opportunities to make plays.
Gregg Williams:
First order of business: Demand an real NFL kicker from personnel.
Second order of business: Sit down with Baker, tell him you've got his back ... but that you'll be over on the defensive side of the ball, bye.
Third order of business: Grab some motherfucker by the facemask at the first practice and let the team know that Club Med is over, they are going to work their asses off and be held accountable.
Zombo
Zombo said:
you played Pittsburgh to a draw over 5 quarters in week one, and now you look like a college team
We got 6 turnovers from the Steelers in that game. And we didn't win. You cannot be a very good team when you're plus 5 in turnovers in a football game, and don't win.
The reason this 2nd Steeler game was worse was because we were missing Shobert and other defenders....and because we didn't get 6 turnovers.
I was quite surprised that Hue wasn't fired after the Tampa Bay game. I felt certain that THAT was it for him. I just didn't realize that the Browns actually fire coaches after Steeler games...so it had to wait a week.
Haslam is a dope. He fired 2 coaches in a row after 1 year of service. How dumb was that? What kind of message did THAT send to perspective coaches? "Stay the hell away from that trigger fingered wacko" is what the message was. THEN, he couldn't GET a coach and had to settle for Pettine. So he had the Pettine / Farmer war. And Text Gate. And Shanahan saying, "I'm getting the hell out of THIS wacky environment". Perspective coaches were taking their names OFF of the table. Haslam did all of that! - Then, he gets Hue, who showed us in year one that he was a terrible game-day coach...but he allowed HIM to stay on two and a half years, amassing 3 whole wins. He couldn't fire him because he'd look like the same ol' trigger fingered wacko. - as stated in another thread, Haslam Is The Problem. (just look at our uniforms....the man can do NOTHING right) He's got to be locked in his office and Dorsey has got to get us a coach and Dorsey needs to run the team.....AND he should probably fix the uniforms too 'cuz Haslam will probably have us wearing polka dots next.
I hate to sound like the Ghoul....but I knew Hue was the wrong coach at halftime of game six in year one of Hue. But we had to keep him for 2+ more years. We NEED constancy. But FIRST you've gotta get the right people to keep.
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Get him a decent kicking coach and he could be fine. Lack of real coaching has killed us.
A kicking coach?
Name one "kicking coach" in the history of the NFL.
A kicking coach?
Name one "kicking coach" in the history of the NFL.
You asked.
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Zombo said:
According to Tony Grossi, Hue hired Haley. Hue was in charge of the coaching staff and reported directly to Haslem.
Zombo
I'm sure Hue did "make the hire", but...
- it was no secret that hiring an OC was a prerequisite for Hue continuing as the HC; and
- Haley's name was likely suggested for Hue's consideration.
sounds like Haslam falls on the sword for his head coach hiring & hiring of Todd?
Toad ran over by Hue-bus ??
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There have been theories that the bad playcalling was an attempt to sabotage the head coaching position from Jackson.
I wouldn’t put it passed an OC who’s been an OC for a long time lol
I doubt that. I don't think Haley would purposely call bad plays to get Hue fired.
I do however believe Haley absolutely detested having to have Hue "approve" of his plays, and that Hue was telling him what to do. Hence why Haley would call plays Hue told him not to call, just to spite him, and because he thought Hue was wrong, and a "control freak".
Hue is no longer the captain, and I actually feel bad for him. He was a horrible coach, but now he goes down in history as one of the worst HC's of all time.
I doubt that. I don't think Haley would purposely call bad plays to get Hue fired.
Agree...
Some folks can't resist a good conspiracy theory...
... or even a bad one.
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I doubt that. I don't think Haley would purposely call bad plays to get Hue fired.
Agree...
Some folks can't resist a good conspiracy theory...
... or even a bad one.
Agree...
Some folks can't resist a good conspiracy theory...
... or even a bad one.
Dammit where's cal when we really need him??
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Lol Lincoln Riley wouldn’t coach this dumpster fire for $7 million per
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Lol Lincoln Riley wouldn’t coach this dumpster fire for $7 million per
Lol Lincoln Riley wouldn’t coach this dumpster fire for $7 million per
Oklahoma might pay him that much to stick around... Don't get me started on how insane it is for colleges to pay their head coaches 50 times what their professors make...
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Lol Lincoln Riley wouldn’t coach this dumpster fire for $7 million per
Lol Lincoln Riley wouldn’t coach this dumpster fire for $7 million per
He might or he might not. Depends on how bad he wants to coach in the NFL. You guys act like there's a million NFL head coaching jobs. There's 32 of them. No matter how good or bad a team might be, they are all desirable jobs.
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Dammit where's cal when we really need him??
Still desperately looking for proof that Hilary was running a white slave ring out of the basement of a pizza shop? ?
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Dammit where's cal when we really need him??
Still desperately looking for proof that Hilary was running a white slave ring out of the basement of a pizza shop? ?
Still desperately looking for proof that Hilary was running a white slave ring out of the basement of a pizza shop? ?
Never find it. It's buried in the deep state. ?
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I doubt that. I don't think Haley would purposely call bad plays to get Hue fired.
Agree...
Some folks can't resist a good conspiracy theory...
... or even a bad one.
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Dammit where's cal when we really need him??
Still desperately looking for proof that Hilary was running a white slave ring out of the basement of a pizza shop? ?
Still desperately looking for proof that Hilary was running a white slave ring out of the basement of a pizza shop? ?
Some dumbazzes will believe anything.
"Just in the BROWNS were just purchased by an investment group led by Vladimir Putin, details at 6 pm on FOX News."
That should get some traction, "not fake news".
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I doubt that. I don't think Haley would purposely call bad plays to get Hue fired.
Agree...
Some folks can't resist a good conspiracy theory...
... or even a bad one.
Agree...
Some folks can't resist a good conspiracy theory...
... or even a bad one.
what i do not understand is if there was discourse in the locker room Why In The Hell wasnt it taken care of long ago ? why did they let it escalate this far ?
so ya something seems fishy about it
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Lol Lincoln Riley wouldn’t coach this dumpster fire for $7 million per
He might or he might not. Depends on how bad he wants to coach in the NFL. You guys act like there's a million NFL head coaching jobs. There's 32 of them. No matter how good or bad a team might be, they are all desirable jobs.
He might or he might not. Depends on how bad he wants to coach in the NFL. You guys act like there's a million NFL head coaching jobs. There's 32 of them. No matter how good or bad a team might be, they are all desirable jobs.
If you want to say that "I coached in the NFL regardless of how I sucked" then you are correct the Browns job is desirable. Riley is at a top 10 college program making $4+ million a year and after 5 years of success will be king of his domain. 3/4 star recruits fall out of the sky at OU and he's winning 10 games rolling out of bed in the weak Big 12. The Browns job is so desirable here is the list of "best coaches available"
11 Chris Palmer* 1999–2000
12 Butch Davis* 2001–2004
13 Terry Robiskie 2004
14 Romeo Crennel 2005–2008
15 Eric Mangini 2009–2010
16 Pat Shurmur 2011–2012
17 Rob Chudzinski* 2013
18 Mike Pettine* 2014–2015
19 Hue Jackson 2016–2018
20 Gregg Williams 2018–presentAnd exactly how many career playoff wins do these coaches have a head coaches in the NFL?
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He might or he might not. Depends on how bad he wants to coach in the NFL. You guys act like there's a million NFL head coaching jobs. There's 32 of them. No matter how good or bad a team might be, they are all desirable jobs.
If you want to say that "I coached in the NFL regardless of how I sucked" then you are correct the Browns job is desirable. Riley is at a top 10 college program making $4+ million a year and after 5 years of success will be king of his domain. 3/4 star recruits fall out of the sky at OU and he's winning 10 games rolling out of bed in the weak Big 12. The Browns job is so desirable here is the list of "best coaches available"
11 Chris Palmer* 1999–2000
12 Butch Davis* 2001–2004
13 Terry Robiskie 2004
14 Romeo Crennel 2005–2008
15 Eric Mangini 2009–2010
16 Pat Shurmur 2011–2012
17 Rob Chudzinski* 2013
18 Mike Pettine* 2014–2015
19 Hue Jackson 2016–2018
20 Gregg Williams 2018–presentAnd exactly how many career playoff wins do these coaches have a head coaches in the NFL?
If you want to say that "I coached in the NFL regardless of how I sucked" then you are correct the Browns job is desirable. Riley is at a top 10 college program making $4+ million a year and after 5 years of success will be king of his domain. 3/4 star recruits fall out of the sky at OU and he's winning 10 games rolling out of bed in the weak Big 12. The Browns job is so desirable here is the list of "best coaches available"
11 Chris Palmer* 1999–2000
12 Butch Davis* 2001–2004
13 Terry Robiskie 2004
14 Romeo Crennel 2005–2008
15 Eric Mangini 2009–2010
16 Pat Shurmur 2011–2012
17 Rob Chudzinski* 2013
18 Mike Pettine* 2014–2015
19 Hue Jackson 2016–2018
20 Gregg Williams 2018–presentAnd exactly how many career playoff wins do these coaches have a head coaches in the NFL?
Trivia question: I will say.....-0-. Though....Butch should have had one if Northcutt could have not dropped that damn pass.
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He might or he might not. Depends on how bad he wants to coach in the NFL. You guys act like there's a million NFL head coaching jobs. There's 32 of them. No matter how good or bad a team might be, they are all desirable jobs.
If you want to say that "I coached in the NFL regardless of how I sucked" then you are correct the Browns job is desirable. Riley is at a top 10 college program making $4+ million a year and after 5 years of success will be king of his domain. 3/4 star recruits fall out of the sky at OU and he's winning 10 games rolling out of bed in the weak Big 12. The Browns job is so desirable here is the list of "best coaches available"
11 Chris Palmer* 1999–2000
12 Butch Davis* 2001–2004
13 Terry Robiskie 2004
14 Romeo Crennel 2005–2008
15 Eric Mangini 2009–2010
16 Pat Shurmur 2011–2012
17 Rob Chudzinski* 2013
18 Mike Pettine* 2014–2015
19 Hue Jackson 2016–2018
20 Gregg Williams 2018–presentAnd exactly how many career playoff wins do these coaches have a head coaches in the NFL?
If you want to say that "I coached in the NFL regardless of how I sucked" then you are correct the Browns job is desirable. Riley is at a top 10 college program making $4+ million a year and after 5 years of success will be king of his domain. 3/4 star recruits fall out of the sky at OU and he's winning 10 games rolling out of bed in the weak Big 12. The Browns job is so desirable here is the list of "best coaches available"
11 Chris Palmer* 1999–2000
12 Butch Davis* 2001–2004
13 Terry Robiskie 2004
14 Romeo Crennel 2005–2008
15 Eric Mangini 2009–2010
16 Pat Shurmur 2011–2012
17 Rob Chudzinski* 2013
18 Mike Pettine* 2014–2015
19 Hue Jackson 2016–2018
20 Gregg Williams 2018–presentAnd exactly how many career playoff wins do these coaches have a head coaches in the NFL?
Hindsight is pretty clear isn't it. Butch Davis was the hot prospect that year. Romeo Crennel was one of the top 2 hot coaching prospects. Hue Jackson as well. So to say that no one you've ever heard of will want to come coach is completely and totally false.
Just because they failed as a head coach here doesn't mean they weren't the hot coaching candidate when they were hired.
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If you want to say that "I coached in the NFL regardless of how I sucked" then you are correct the Browns job is desirable. Riley is at a top 10 college program making $4+ million a year and after 5 years of success will be king of his domain. 3/4 star recruits fall out of the sky at OU and he's winning 10 games rolling out of bed in the weak Big 12. The Browns job is so desirable here is the list of "best coaches available"
11 Chris Palmer* 1999–2000
12 Butch Davis* 2001–2004
13 Terry Robiskie 2004
14 Romeo Crennel 2005–2008
15 Eric Mangini 2009–2010
16 Pat Shurmur 2011–2012
17 Rob Chudzinski* 2013
18 Mike Pettine* 2014–2015
19 Hue Jackson 2016–2018
20 Gregg Williams 2018–presentAnd exactly how many career playoff wins do these coaches have a head coaches in the NFL?
Hindsight is pretty clear isn't it. Butch Davis was the hot prospect that year. Romeo Crennel was one of the top 2 hot coaching prospects. Hue Jackson as well. So to say that no one you've ever heard of will want to come coach is completely and totally false.
Just because they failed as a head coach here doesn't mean they weren't the hot coaching candidate when they were hired.
Hindsight is pretty clear isn't it. Butch Davis was the hot prospect that year. Romeo Crennel was one of the top 2 hot coaching prospects. Hue Jackson as well. So to say that no one you've ever heard of will want to come coach is completely and totally false.
Just because they failed as a head coach here doesn't mean they weren't the hot coaching candidate when they were hired.
Shurmer was connected to his uncle and to Holmgren.. What the fuk did Pettine have going for him other than he's bald?
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Hindsight is pretty clear isn't it. Butch Davis was the hot prospect that year. Romeo Crennel was one of the top 2 hot coaching prospects. Hue Jackson as well. So to say that no one you've ever heard of will want to come coach is completely and totally false.
Just because they failed as a head coach here doesn't mean they weren't the hot coaching candidate when they were hired.
Shurmer was connected to his uncle and to Holmgren.. What the fuk did Pettine have going for him other than he's bald?
Shurmer was connected to his uncle and to Holmgren.. What the fuk did Pettine have going for him other than he's bald?
Shurmer was also considered a top assistant that was ready to be a head coach. That proved to be incorrect and seems to still be incorrect based on this years results.
Pettine I knew nothing about and that's why I didn't mention him as being someone who was being considered a top candidate when we were searching. The only thing I heard about him was Brian Billick who knew him from the Ravens days said if the Browns are looking for a HC to make them a tougher team, then he's the guy for that job. I think he was doing a decent job till Hoyer got hurt and he had to play Manzidiot at QB. So sometimes having a guy we've never heard of isn't such a bad thing.
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Hindsight is pretty clear isn't it. Butch Davis was the hot prospect that year. Romeo Crennel was one of the top 2 hot coaching prospects. Hue Jackson as well. So to say that no one you've ever heard of will want to come coach is completely and totally false.
Just because they failed as a head coach here doesn't mean they weren't the hot coaching candidate when they were hired.
Shurmer was connected to his uncle and to Holmgren.. What the fuk did Pettine have going for him other than he's bald?
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