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  • C Clevfan4life wrote on last edited by
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    i was a bit disappointed in Vernon especially, didnt look live comin off tge ball at all. Would get locked up and not really shed his man. Avery too didnt look very good....got constantly pushed into the DT so both of em got bogged down. When he did try to go out wide he got pushed way high. I know its only preseason but i expected some of these guys to fire out hard fir a couple plays THEN go into pro bowl mode. Like myles did against the skins. 

  • i was a bit disappointed in Vernon especially, didnt look live comin off tge ball at all. Would get locked up and not really shed his man. Avery too didnt look very good....got constantly pushed into the DT so both of em got bogged down. When he did try to go out wide he got pushed way high. I know its only preseason but i expected some of these guys to fire out hard fir a couple plays THEN go into pro bowl mode. Like myles did against the skins. 

    C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by calfoxwc
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  • C Clevfan4life wrote on last edited by
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    @calfoxwc said:

    https://www.clevelandbrowns.com/news/5-players-who-impressed-in-the-browns-win-over-the-colts

    4. Genard Avery

    oooo he tackled some 2nd and 3rd teamers. Im not denigrating that but the main reason he's on the roster is as a situational pass rusher. In wilks scheme he will see absolutely no time as one of the lb'ers....so he's only going to see time at DE. As far as that went, he didnt show much at all yesterday but then also neither did vernon. 

    i still hope wilks uses avery like oak did with mack his first year as a 43 olb'er. 

  • @calfoxwc said:

    https://www.clevelandbrowns.com/news/5-players-who-impressed-in-the-browns-win-over-the-colts

    4. Genard Avery

    oooo he tackled some 2nd and 3rd teamers. Im not denigrating that but the main reason he's on the roster is as a situational pass rusher. In wilks scheme he will see absolutely no time as one of the lb'ers....so he's only going to see time at DE. As far as that went, he didnt show much at all yesterday but then also neither did vernon. 

    i still hope wilks uses avery like oak did with mack his first year as a 43 olb'er. 

    T TexasAg1969 wrote on last edited by
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    @clevfan4life said:

    oooo he tackled some 2nd and 3rd teamers. Im not denigrating that but the main reason he's on the roster is as a situational pass rusher. In wilks scheme he will see absolutely no time as one of the lb'ers....so he's only going to see time at DE. As far as that went, he didnt show much at all yesterday but then also neither did vernon. 

    i still hope wilks uses avery like oak did with mack his first year as a 43 olb'er. 

    I don't think Garrett even saw the field did he? That makes a big difference to the other players along the DL when protections are not sliding his way.

  • Canton MikeC Canton Mike wrote on last edited by
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    Folks, it's exhibition season, which means nothing other than finalizing decisions & seeing what player combos work best.

    Case in point:  2017 Browns were 4-0 preseason. Remember what our regular season record was? Yep, that would be 0-16.

    Mike

  • @calfoxwc said:

    https://www.clevelandbrowns.com/news/5-players-who-impressed-in-the-browns-win-over-the-colts

    4. Genard Avery

    oooo he tackled some 2nd and 3rd teamers. Im not denigrating that but the main reason he's on the roster is as a situational pass rusher. In wilks scheme he will see absolutely no time as one of the lb'ers....so he's only going to see time at DE. As far as that went, he didnt show much at all yesterday but then also neither did vernon. 

    i still hope wilks uses avery like oak did with mack his first year as a 43 olb'er. 

    A Alkid3 wrote on last edited by
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    @clevfan4life said:

    oooo he tackled some 2nd and 3rd teamers. Im not denigrating that but the main reason he's on the roster is as a situational pass rusher. In wilks scheme he will see absolutely no time as one of the lb'ers....so he's only going to see time at DE. As far as that went, he didnt show much at all yesterday but then also neither did vernon. 

    i still hope wilks uses avery like oak did with mack his first year as a 43 olb'er. 

    He can only tackle whoever the Colts put on the field. 

  • IbleedbrownI Ibleedbrown wrote on last edited by
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    I only saw part of the second half but thought Wyatt Ray showed some moves coming off the edge. 

  • @calfoxwc said:

    https://www.clevelandbrowns.com/news/5-players-who-impressed-in-the-browns-win-over-the-colts

    4. Genard Avery

    oooo he tackled some 2nd and 3rd teamers. Im not denigrating that but the main reason he's on the roster is as a situational pass rusher. In wilks scheme he will see absolutely no time as one of the lb'ers....so he's only going to see time at DE. As far as that went, he didnt show much at all yesterday but then also neither did vernon. 

    i still hope wilks uses avery like oak did with mack his first year as a 43 olb'er. 

    GorkaG Gorka wrote on last edited by Gorka
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    @clevfan4life said:

    oooo he tackled some 2nd and 3rd teamers. Im not denigrating that but the main reason he's on the roster is as a situational pass rusher. In wilks scheme he will see absolutely no time as one of the lb'ers....so he's only going to see time at DE. As far as that went, he didnt show much at all yesterday but then also neither did vernon. 

    i still hope wilks uses avery like oak did with mack his first year as a 43 olb'er. 

    Uh, yes you are.

  • tiamat63T tiamat63 wrote on last edited by
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    I think you're making a bit much of it far too soon.

  • chocoC choco wrote on last edited by
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    I'm hardly a football expert...but this reads like a casual fan that just watched his first game. 

  • I'm hardly a football expert...but this reads like a casual fan that just watched his first game. 

    C Clevfan4life wrote on last edited by
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    @choco said:

    I'm hardly a football expert...but this reads like a casual fan that just watched his first game. 

    no i explained i wasnt expecting full fire out on every play. But look myles and chris smith against the skins looked pretty fluid especially for preseason game 1. They werent playing 100% but u could still see them working their craft. On saturday cernon looked like he justcwanted to lock up with the tackle a bit then go have a beer. And Avery. who got quite a few reps....nrver flashed in pass rush against 2nd and 3rd team OL.

    none of u would have been happy with baker coming out and doing nothing but hsndoffs and rb screens for 2 possessions. I just wsnted to see where our d lines pass rush was at when they put it in launch control.

  • gumby73G gumby73 wrote on last edited by gumby73
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    Now is not the time to show much of anything, anyhow..If your after a 2 preseason game worry? #1..this OL can't run block. It's all been on running backs individual vision talent & effort.. #2..We just let 3 QB's at Colts go 30 of 44 with all 3 Qb's combined with a 104.7 QB rating. I was hoping our coverage depth was far better than Saturdays game..#3.Placekicker   

  • nickersN nickers wrote on last edited by
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    It's preseason.. What were you expecting?

  • Now is not the time to show much of anything, anyhow..If your after a 2 preseason game worry? #1..this OL can't run block. It's all been on running backs individual vision talent & effort.. #2..We just let 3 QB's at Colts go 30 of 44 with all 3 Qb's combined with a 104.7 QB rating. I was hoping our coverage depth was far better than Saturdays game..#3.Placekicker   

    T TexasAg1969 wrote on last edited by
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    @gumby73 said:

    Now is not the time to show much of anything, anyhow..If your after a 2 preseason game worry? #1..this OL can't run block. It's all been on running backs individual vision talent & effort.. #2..We just let 3 QB's at Colts go 30 of 44 with all 3 Qb's combined with a 104.7 QB rating. I was hoping our coverage depth was far better than Saturdays game..#3.Placekicker   

    I won't worry about #2 yet unless they play that way with Garrett in the game (and he was not in game 2).

  • jiggins7919J jiggins7919 wrote on last edited by
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    Yeah, I wasn't overly blown away, mostly because Brissett looked like the second coming of Brett Favre, but our podcast analysts actually said our starting DL was dominant, and that's without Myles. I'm definitely not worried, but I am getting impatient. It just feels like more and more that the preseason is an excuse for players to get injured. We literally aren't playing our starters, and when we do, I'm holding my breath. 

    Nothing matters more than game 1. Everyone here knows our record of season openers, and we MUST have a victory week 1.

  • IbleedbrownI Ibleedbrown wrote on last edited by
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    I’m of the opinion the Colts OL was a notch above what we saw in Washington. Even their back ups were decent.

  • CLEVELANDwantsPLAYOFFSC CLEVELANDwantsPLAYOFFS wrote on last edited by
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    Avery looks much quicker. Shows on the tackle on the screen pass right before half. 

    He was pass rushing, diagnosed the screen, and made it outside in time to trip up the receiver. 

  • C Clevfan4life wrote on last edited by
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    i understand vernon prob had standing orders not to fire out too hard...but jobi launched through a couple times. And that rookie lb'er again how the fuck did he fall that far? man thst kid is lightin it. I was just expecting certain players like avery, who very well may be fighting for a job...to.show something yesrerday. 

    Avery has zero to do with the lb'ers in wilks scheme...so he has to make the team as a DE. Theres alot of traffic at DE guys. Zettel, who i dont really care for but is gettin lots of reps, love me some big bear he's in, Chad Thomas.....i mean, avery needs to flash next game or ge might be playing alot in game 4 and we know what thst means.

    Acery was highly thought of by GW but who knows with wilks. Wilks may not see much need for Avery as he doesnt use as many 3 DL sets as GW did. 

  • Avery looks much quicker. Shows on the tackle on the screen pass right before half. 

    He was pass rushing, diagnosed the screen, and made it outside in time to trip up the receiver. 

    C Clevfan4life wrote on last edited by
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    @clevelandwantsplayoffs said:

    Avery looks much quicker. Shows on the tackle on the screen pass right before half. 

    He was pass rushing, diagnosed the screen, and made it outside in time to trip up the receiver. 

    he's a ridiculous athlete no question. He just may not work so well in our scheme. 

  • ballpeenB ballpeen wrote on last edited by
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    In my old age i have come to the conclusion that exhibition football doesn't mean shit.