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  • 1. Browns record? 11-5

    Above was my response to Dutch's Questions... woulda swore I was at 10-6 and no revision required, but I was one high.

    10-6... very doable... even if we drop out next 2....

    mjp28M mjp28 wrote on last edited by
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    @tour2ma said:

    Above was my response to Dutch's Questions... woulda swore I was at 10-6 and no revision required, but I was one high.

    10-6... very doable... even if we drop out next 2....

    Yeah let's blame Dutch on the BROWNS disappointing start!  It's all his fault with his damn questions.     😆

  • The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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    I don't know about a specific record, but I still think the Browns take the division.

    The key obviously is beating the other teams in this division....which they have done so far.  They haven't done well vs. the NFC West,  but losing non-conference games is the least harmful defeats a team can have. 

    Even at this point the Browns DO have the best record in the division:  1-0.   (Balt. is 2-1, Pitt 1-1, Cin 0-2)

    And even at this point the Browns DO have the best conference record:  2-1  (Balt 3-2, Pitt. 2-2, Cin 0-3)

    Baltimore has yet to play  SF/Sea/LA Rams.      Pitt has played...and lost to both the 49ers and Seahawks, as have the Browns. 

    And just figure this out:   Things are going to change.  I mean, while I didn't do it this week due to being away,  If the playoffs started today, the Oakland Raiders would be in the playoffs.  How many of you think that is going to happen?

  • I don't know about a specific record, but I still think the Browns take the division.

    The key obviously is beating the other teams in this division....which they have done so far.  They haven't done well vs. the NFC West,  but losing non-conference games is the least harmful defeats a team can have. 

    Even at this point the Browns DO have the best record in the division:  1-0.   (Balt. is 2-1, Pitt 1-1, Cin 0-2)

    And even at this point the Browns DO have the best conference record:  2-1  (Balt 3-2, Pitt. 2-2, Cin 0-3)

    Baltimore has yet to play  SF/Sea/LA Rams.      Pitt has played...and lost to both the 49ers and Seahawks, as have the Browns. 

    And just figure this out:   Things are going to change.  I mean, while I didn't do it this week due to being away,  If the playoffs started today, the Oakland Raiders would be in the playoffs.  How many of you think that is going to happen?

    mjp28M mjp28 wrote on last edited by mjp28
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    @the-gipper said:

    I don't know about a specific record, but I still think the Browns take the division.

    The key obviously is beating the other teams in this division....which they have done so far.  They haven't done well vs. the NFC West,  but losing non-conference games is the least harmful defeats a team can have. 

    At 5-2 and the nearest AFCN teams at 2-5 Baltimore can just finish 5-4 they can go 10-6 and almost guarantee a division win.  The BROWNS or steelers would have to go 8-1 to tie that mark.  The Bills have an inside track for an AFC wild card spot so there will probably be only one AFCN playoff team. If Baltimore falls flat it might be interesting.

    The blackbirds remaining schedule:

    NEW ENGLAND
    at Cincinnati
    HOUSTON
    at LA Rams (Mon)
    SAN FRANCISCO
    at Buffalo
    NY JETS (Thur)
    at Cleveland
    PITTSBURGH

    Cleveland's remaining schedule:

    at New England
    at Denver
    BUFFALO
    PITTSBURGH (Thur)
    MIAMI
    at Pittsburgh
    CINCINNATI
    at Arizona
    BALTIMORE
    at Cincinnati

    While we're at it the Bills remaining schedule:

    PHILADELPHIA
    WASHINGTON
    at Cleveland
    at Miami
    DENVER
    at Dallas (Thanks)
    BALTIMORE
    at Pittsburgh
    at New England
    NY JETS

  • The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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    Well.....see my "If the Playoffs started today" thread, and you will note that the Texans at 4-3 are currently the second WC.  Browns only  1.5 games out of that. And also note that nothing has changed from my mention above that the Browns still have the best division record, and the best conference record.  Going forward, they have to win their remaining 5 division games, and their other conf. games....of which, obviously, the toughest ones will be v. the Pats and Bills.

  • Well.....see my "If the Playoffs started today" thread, and you will note that the Texans at 4-3 are currently the second WC.  Browns only  1.5 games out of that. And also note that nothing has changed from my mention above that the Browns still have the best division record, and the best conference record.  Going forward, they have to win their remaining 5 division games, and their other conf. games....of which, obviously, the toughest ones will be v. the Pats and Bills.

    mjp28M mjp28 wrote on last edited by
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    @the-gipper said:

    Well.....see my "If the Playoffs started today" thread, and you will note that the Texans at 4-3 are currently the second WC.  Browns only  1.5 games out of that. And also note that nothing has changed from my mention above that the Browns still have the best division record, and the best conference record.  Going forward, they have to win their remaining 5 division games, and their other conf. games....of which, obviously, the toughest ones will be v. the Pats and Bills.

    I'm looking at the entire season and schedule and who might make it NOT just who has had the easiest schedule so far.

  • @the-gipper said:

    Well.....see my "If the Playoffs started today" thread, and you will note that the Texans at 4-3 are currently the second WC.  Browns only  1.5 games out of that. And also note that nothing has changed from my mention above that the Browns still have the best division record, and the best conference record.  Going forward, they have to win their remaining 5 division games, and their other conf. games....of which, obviously, the toughest ones will be v. the Pats and Bills.

    I'm looking at the entire season and schedule and who might make it NOT just who has had the easiest schedule so far.

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by The Gipper
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    @mjp28 said:

    I'm looking at the entire season and schedule and who might make it NOT just who has had the easiest schedule so far.

    Yea, so isn't everyone.  And when you look at the entire season and schedule, you will see that the Browns likely have had one of the toughest schedules so far, and that the remainder of their schedule is significantly easier....which, hopefully, means that they can amass many wins here in the rest of the season.   And while I generally look at a snapshot of what things would be like right now.....I am still mindful of the fact that it is only what the standings are at the end of the season that is definitive as to who does or does not make the playoffs.   Browns are on the outside looking in right now.  They certainly have the opportunity to get in on the inside....if they do things right.  (Questionable that they do things right?  Sure....but I still think they have a fair chance)

  • @mjp28 said:

    I'm looking at the entire season and schedule and who might make it NOT just who has had the easiest schedule so far.

    Yea, so isn't everyone.  And when you look at the entire season and schedule, you will see that the Browns likely have had one of the toughest schedules so far, and that the remainder of their schedule is significantly easier....which, hopefully, means that they can amass many wins here in the rest of the season.   And while I generally look at a snapshot of what things would be like right now.....I am still mindful of the fact that it is only what the standings are at the end of the season that is definitive as to who does or does not make the playoffs.   Browns are on the outside looking in right now.  They certainly have the opportunity to get in on the inside....if they do things right.  (Questionable that they do things right?  Sure....but I still think they have a fair chance)

    mjp28M mjp28 wrote on last edited by
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    @the-gipper said:

     (Questionable that they do things right?  Sure....but I still think they have a fair chance)

    Right now they have two chances slim and none and  at 2-5 have to play the undefeated odds on favorite to win the Superbowl on the road as +13 underdogs.

    Fair chance?  Try have to have the best game of the year to even try to save their season at 3-5 with half of the season gone.

    GO BROWNS,  "do you believe in miracles"  tune in at 4:25 pm and find out.  A win would be "spectacular"!

  • 6-10

    We're undisciplined, we turn the ball over, we don't throw TD passes, we don't score DEFENSIVE TDs, and we don't make the plays when they matter the most.  That's the biggest thing, right there.  When we need to make something happen, when the game is ON THE LINE...we choke.  Basically, this team has absolutely NO MAGIC.  Zip, zilch, nada, nil.  Let me ask you, how many people on this board felt like we were going to go down the field and score against the Seahawks to win the game?  I think it's a safe bet that not many of us thought we were just going to march down the field and win.  That right there...that expectation that something great is going to happen...THAT'S what is missing from our team.  We still expect to step on our Johnson, and it's a self-fulfilling prophecy.  We HOPE someone on the team will make a play instead of EXPECTING to make the play.

    NOW...if "something" changes?  If we find the "magic"?  I'm telling you, we're a play or two away from winning some games, and I know that most teams in the NFL can say that, but you have to figure our big names are going to start making big plays.  Garrett gets a strip-sack that's returned for a TD.  OBJ one-handed grab for 7.  Chubb breaking loose, Greedy pick-6...whatever.   We start making those 2-3 great plays a game, and we can be something.  We can win the division, but we have to stop beating ourselves and start stringing together wins.  Now. 

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    @jiggins7919 said:

    6-10

    We're undisciplined, we turn the ball over, we don't throw TD passes, we don't score DEFENSIVE TDs, and we don't make the plays when they matter the most.  That's the biggest thing, right there.  When we need to make something happen, when the game is ON THE LINE...we choke.  Basically, this team has absolutely NO MAGIC.  Zip, zilch, nada, nil.  Let me ask you, how many people on this board felt like we were going to go down the field and score against the Seahawks to win the game?  I think it's a safe bet that not many of us thought we were just going to march down the field and win.  That right there...that expectation that something great is going to happen...THAT'S what is missing from our team.  We still expect to step on our Johnson, and it's a self-fulfilling prophecy.  We HOPE someone on the team will make a play instead of EXPECTING to make the play.

    NOW...if "something" changes?  If we find the "magic"?  I'm telling you, we're a play or two away from winning some games, and I know that most teams in the NFL can say that, but you have to figure our big names are going to start making big plays.  Garrett gets a strip-sack that's returned for a TD.  OBJ one-handed grab for 7.  Chubb breaking loose, Greedy pick-6...whatever.   We start making those 2-3 great plays a game, and we can be something.  We can win the division, but we have to stop beating ourselves and start stringing together wins.  Now. 

  • @the-gipper said:

     (Questionable that they do things right?  Sure....but I still think they have a fair chance)

    Right now they have two chances slim and none and  at 2-5 have to play the undefeated odds on favorite to win the Superbowl on the road as +13 underdogs.

    Fair chance?  Try have to have the best game of the year to even try to save their season at 3-5 with half of the season gone.

    GO BROWNS,  "do you believe in miracles"  tune in at 4:25 pm and find out.  A win would be "spectacular"!

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by The Gipper
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    @mjp28 said:

    Right now they have two chances slim and none and  at 2-5 have to play the undefeated odds on favorite to win the Superbowl on the road as +13 underdogs.

    Fair chance?  Try have to have the best game of the year to even try to save their season at 3-5 with half of the season gone.

    GO BROWNS,  "do you believe in miracles"  tune in at 4:25 pm and find out.  A win would be "spectacular"!

    Don't tell me about the fucking odds....those odds don't mean shit....and they are likely dead fucking wrong.  The key is to win against the division, and the conference.

    They have 10 games remaining:  5 against  Pitt/Cin/Balt.   They also play Dolphins and Cardinals and Broncos.  By all rights, they should win 7 of those 8 games....if they are who we think they are.  And what we think they are is simply the better team than any of those opponents.  And then they should get a split vs.  Pats/Bills.  

    There really should be nothing "miraculous" about accomplishing all that.  Not at all.  

    You said you look at the entire season, the entire schedule.  Well, I just broke  down the big picture for you. 

  • mjp28M mjp28 wrote on last edited by
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    Really?  When your slim hopes depends on someone else losing you're in trouble.  5-2 > 2-5 and hoping you go 7-2, 8-1 or 9-0.

    The BROWNS who we all know and love have dug themselves an immense hole and have to be nearly perfect for the rest of the season.

    Not my theory just the facts.

  • @mjp28 said:

    Right now they have two chances slim and none and  at 2-5 have to play the undefeated odds on favorite to win the Superbowl on the road as +13 underdogs.

    Fair chance?  Try have to have the best game of the year to even try to save their season at 3-5 with half of the season gone.

    GO BROWNS,  "do you believe in miracles"  tune in at 4:25 pm and find out.  A win would be "spectacular"!

    Don't tell me about the fucking odds....those odds don't mean shit....and they are likely dead fucking wrong.  The key is to win against the division, and the conference.

    They have 10 games remaining:  5 against  Pitt/Cin/Balt.   They also play Dolphins and Cardinals and Broncos.  By all rights, they should win 7 of those 8 games....if they are who we think they are.  And what we think they are is simply the better team than any of those opponents.  And then they should get a split vs.  Pats/Bills.  

    There really should be nothing "miraculous" about accomplishing all that.  Not at all.  

    You said you look at the entire season, the entire schedule.  Well, I just broke  down the big picture for you. 

    mjp28M mjp28 wrote on last edited by
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    @the-gipper said:

    Don't tell me about the fucking odds....

    There really should be nothing "miraculous" about accomplishing all that.  Not at all.  

    Listen junior yes I know that you are just slightly younger than me but sometimes you write like born yesterday.  OH IS THAT A SONG TOO?  😆

    I hope that your miracle comes true and the BROWNS win the AFCN.

  • Really?  When your slim hopes depends on someone else losing you're in trouble.  5-2 > 2-5 and hoping you go 7-2, 8-1 or 9-0.

    The BROWNS who we all know and love have dug themselves an immense hole and have to be nearly perfect for the rest of the season.

    Not my theory just the facts.

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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    @mjp28 said:

    Really?  When your slim hopes depends on someone else losing you're in trouble.  5-2 > 2-5 and hoping you go 7-2, 8-1 or 9-0.

    The BROWNS who we all know and love have dug themselves an immense hole and have to be nearly perfect for the rest of the season.

    Not my theory just the facts.

    Based on the talent they have on this team vs. the talent on the teams they play the remainder of this year......7-2  should be expected. 

    Lets here your analysis of why you think that should not be the case?    The only thing that should temper that expectation is:   Questionable coaching. 

    (but, you are right.....they cannot rely on the Ravens to lose.....but I am talking about making the playoffs, perhaps even as  a Wildcard if they do what they are capable of doing.)

  • @mjp28 said:

    Really?  When your slim hopes depends on someone else losing you're in trouble.  5-2 > 2-5 and hoping you go 7-2, 8-1 or 9-0.

    The BROWNS who we all know and love have dug themselves an immense hole and have to be nearly perfect for the rest of the season.

    Not my theory just the facts.

    Based on the talent they have on this team vs. the talent on the teams they play the remainder of this year......7-2  should be expected. 

    Lets here your analysis of why you think that should not be the case?    The only thing that should temper that expectation is:   Questionable coaching. 

    (but, you are right.....they cannot rely on the Ravens to lose.....but I am talking about making the playoffs, perhaps even as  a Wildcard if they do what they are capable of doing.)

    mjp28M mjp28 wrote on last edited by
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    @the-gipper said:

    (but, you are right.....they cannot rely on the Ravens to lose.....but I am talking about making the playoffs, perhaps even as  a Wildcard if they do what they are capable of doing.)

    Well 1. They play NE and will likely end up 2-6

    2. They need Buffalo to tank in a division with the NYJ and MIA.

    SO how do you make anything at 2-6?

  • @the-gipper said:

    Don't tell me about the fucking odds....

    There really should be nothing "miraculous" about accomplishing all that.  Not at all.  

    Listen junior yes I know that you are just slightly younger than me but sometimes you write like born yesterday.  OH IS THAT A SONG TOO?  😆

    I hope that your miracle comes true and the BROWNS win the AFCN.

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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    @mjp28 said:

    Listen junior yes I know that you are just slightly younger than me but sometimes you write like born yesterday.  OH IS THAT A SONG TOO?  😆

    I hope that your miracle comes true and the BROWNS win the AFCN.

    Well...geezer, if you have given up on the Browns for this season....why are you even bothering to participate on here? 

    As like I said, it would by no means be a miracle for them to make the playoffs, either as AFCN champs or as a WC.....it is mere expectations based upon the talent on this team that they should compete for a playoff spot and the schedules that they each play.    The Ravens do have a far tougher schedule ahead than do the Browns...(but sure...it will be tough to catch them even then) They have Pats/Texans/Rams/49ers/Bills...and Browns yet to play.  There only seemingly gimme games are another vs. Bengals and a Jets game. 

  • @the-gipper said:

    (but, you are right.....they cannot rely on the Ravens to lose.....but I am talking about making the playoffs, perhaps even as  a Wildcard if they do what they are capable of doing.)

    Well 1. They play NE and will likely end up 2-6

    2. They need Buffalo to tank in a division with the NYJ and MIA.

    SO how do you make anything at 2-6?

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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    @mjp28 said:

    Well 1. They play NE and will likely end up 2-6

    2. They need Buffalo to tank in a division with the NYJ and MIA.

    SO how do you make anything at 2-6?

    Lets start with the fact that you cannot apparently count.  The Browns are now  2-4.  If they lose to the Pats...which, sure, is to be expected, they would be only 2-5, not 2-6.  

    And, as noted, they could/should win  7 of their last nine games after NE.   You are the one that loves the betting odds.  Isn't it fair to say that the Browns should/could possibly be the betting favorite in that many of those remaining games? :

    Two games vs.  Cinci?

    Two games vs. Pitt?

    Dolphins

    Broncos

    Cardinals

    Ravens at home?

    Bills.  

    As far as I see it, maybe the only games they could be underdogs in are the Bills and the game at Pitt....perhaps? 

    I don't know...I suspect you have your betting sources that can tell you this stuff.  And, of course, we know the odds can change drastically, depending on how they do in the coming weeks.   If they really go into the tank....because of issues we have identified, all that can change to the negative.  If they really go on a streak, their betting odds in their favor could go up drastically.

  • @mjp28 said:

    Well 1. They play NE and will likely end up 2-6

    2. They need Buffalo to tank in a division with the NYJ and MIA.

    SO how do you make anything at 2-6?

    Lets start with the fact that you cannot apparently count.  The Browns are now  2-4.  If they lose to the Pats...which, sure, is to be expected, they would be only 2-5, not 2-6.  

    And, as noted, they could/should win  7 of their last nine games after NE.   You are the one that loves the betting odds.  Isn't it fair to say that the Browns should/could possibly be the betting favorite in that many of those remaining games? :

    Two games vs.  Cinci?

    Two games vs. Pitt?

    Dolphins

    Broncos

    Cardinals

    Ravens at home?

    Bills.  

    As far as I see it, maybe the only games they could be underdogs in are the Bills and the game at Pitt....perhaps? 

    I don't know...I suspect you have your betting sources that can tell you this stuff.  And, of course, we know the odds can change drastically, depending on how they do in the coming weeks.   If they really go into the tank....because of issues we have identified, all that can change to the negative.  If they really go on a streak, their betting odds in their favor could go up drastically.

    mjp28M mjp28 wrote on last edited by
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    First after the last loss according to those egghead stats guys the BROWNS playoff chances were down to 22%, lose again and what 12%?  10%?

    Second I've seen all of the AFC contenders schedules the BROWNS are ok but will need help.

    @the-gipper said:

    Lets start with the fact that you cannot apparently count.  The Browns are now  2-4.  If they lose to the Pats...which, sure, is to be expected, they would be only 2-5, not 2-6.  

    Oh sorry I was just finishing my morning PT and was up typing in my lap on my tablet, my mistake.  I think in my mind I was factoring in the next game loss already.

    Maybe Al Michaels can call the next game and we can hear the most exciting words in sports with 00:04 left..... "do you believe in miracles, YES!" 

    IF the Browns win it would be the game of the season.  ( and I can add and many other things 🙂)

  • First after the last loss according to those egghead stats guys the BROWNS playoff chances were down to 22%, lose again and what 12%?  10%?

    Second I've seen all of the AFC contenders schedules the BROWNS are ok but will need help.

    @the-gipper said:

    Lets start with the fact that you cannot apparently count.  The Browns are now  2-4.  If they lose to the Pats...which, sure, is to be expected, they would be only 2-5, not 2-6.  

    Oh sorry I was just finishing my morning PT and was up typing in my lap on my tablet, my mistake.  I think in my mind I was factoring in the next game loss already.

    Maybe Al Michaels can call the next game and we can hear the most exciting words in sports with 00:04 left..... "do you believe in miracles, YES!" 

    IF the Browns win it would be the game of the season.  ( and I can add and many other things 🙂)

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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    @mjp28 said:

    First after the last loss according to those egghead stats guys the BROWNS playoff chances were down to 22%, lose again and what 12%?  10%?

    Second I've seen all of the AFC contenders schedules the BROWNS are ok but will need help.

    Oh sorry I was just finishing my morning PT and was up typing in my lap on my tablet, my mistake.  I think in my mind I was factoring in the next game loss already.

    Maybe Al Michaels can call the next game and we can hear the most exciting words in sports with 00:04 left..... "do you believe in miracles, YES!" 

    IF the Browns win it would be the game of the season.  ( and I can add and many other things 🙂)

    Again....what are the odds for each individual game the Browns have coming up?  Or do they not publish those yet.  Like I said, they should be favored in like  7 of the 9,  post NE.

    IF the Browns win the games they are supposed to win against inferior teams, their odds vastly improve IMO.

    Why are you having such difficulty with that simple concept?

    If the Browns make it to 9-7...they should be on the cusp of a playoff berth.

    That concept should be as simple as pi.

  • @mjp28 said:

    First after the last loss according to those egghead stats guys the BROWNS playoff chances were down to 22%, lose again and what 12%?  10%?

    Second I've seen all of the AFC contenders schedules the BROWNS are ok but will need help.

    Oh sorry I was just finishing my morning PT and was up typing in my lap on my tablet, my mistake.  I think in my mind I was factoring in the next game loss already.

    Maybe Al Michaels can call the next game and we can hear the most exciting words in sports with 00:04 left..... "do you believe in miracles, YES!" 

    IF the Browns win it would be the game of the season.  ( and I can add and many other things 🙂)

    Again....what are the odds for each individual game the Browns have coming up?  Or do they not publish those yet.  Like I said, they should be favored in like  7 of the 9,  post NE.

    IF the Browns win the games they are supposed to win against inferior teams, their odds vastly improve IMO.

    Why are you having such difficulty with that simple concept?

    If the Browns make it to 9-7...they should be on the cusp of a playoff berth.

    That concept should be as simple as pi.

    mjp28M mjp28 wrote on last edited by
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    @the-gipper said:

    Again....what are the odds for each individual game the Browns have coming up?  Or do they not publish those yet.  Like I said, they should be favored in like  7 of the 9,  post NE.

    That depends on how detailed the system is, some just go by historical data and simple probability formulas.  Some put other factors in play obviously if a team has had an easy schedule and a rough patch is coming up it will vary the results.

    That kind of gets into the Econ stats stuff and the differences between probability and odds.  For a simple example you can flip a coin and you can get a head or tail but what are the chances of getting 10 or 50 or whatever heads in a row?   Same with lottery numbers any number can come out on any random drawing but what about drawing the number 111 five times in a row?

    Boring stuff eh?

  • 6-10

    We're undisciplined, we turn the ball over, we don't throw TD passes, we don't score DEFENSIVE TDs, and we don't make the plays when they matter the most.  That's the biggest thing, right there.  When we need to make something happen, when the game is ON THE LINE...we choke.  Basically, this team has absolutely NO MAGIC.  Zip, zilch, nada, nil.  Let me ask you, how many people on this board felt like we were going to go down the field and score against the Seahawks to win the game?  I think it's a safe bet that not many of us thought we were just going to march down the field and win.  That right there...that expectation that something great is going to happen...THAT'S what is missing from our team.  We still expect to step on our Johnson, and it's a self-fulfilling prophecy.  We HOPE someone on the team will make a play instead of EXPECTING to make the play.

    NOW...if "something" changes?  If we find the "magic"?  I'm telling you, we're a play or two away from winning some games, and I know that most teams in the NFL can say that, but you have to figure our big names are going to start making big plays.  Garrett gets a strip-sack that's returned for a TD.  OBJ one-handed grab for 7.  Chubb breaking loose, Greedy pick-6...whatever.   We start making those 2-3 great plays a game, and we can be something.  We can win the division, but we have to stop beating ourselves and start stringing together wins.  Now. 

    dawg2fanD dawg2fan wrote on last edited by dawg2fan
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    @jiggins7919 said:

    6-10

    We're undisciplined, we turn the ball over, we don't throw TD passes, we don't score DEFENSIVE TDs, and we don't make the plays when they matter the most.  That's the biggest thing, right there.  When we need to make something happen, when the game is ON THE LINE...we choke.  Basically, this team has absolutely NO MAGIC.  Zip, zilch, nada, nil.  Let me ask you, how many people on this board felt like we were going to go down the field and score against the Seahawks to win the game?  I think it's a safe bet that not many of us thought we were just going to march down the field and win.  That right there...that expectation that something great is going to happen...THAT'S what is missing from our team.  We still expect to step on our Johnson, and it's a self-fulfilling prophecy.  We HOPE someone on the team will make a play instead of EXPECTING to make the play.

    NOW...if "something" changes?  If we find the "magic"?  I'm telling you, we're a play or two away from winning some games, and I know that most teams in the NFL can say that, but you have to figure our big names are going to start making big plays.  Garrett gets a strip-sack that's returned for a TD.  OBJ one-handed grab for 7.  Chubb breaking loose, Greedy pick-6...whatever.   We start making those 2-3 great plays a game, and we can be something.  We can win the division, but we have to stop beating ourselves and start stringing together wins.  Now. 

    Exactly what he said.  And by the way, the way we're going, don't be surprised if we split with the Bengals.  

  • @poeticg said:

    3-4 … Steal this game vs. the Patriots. Get Ward, Greedy and Higgins back. L, if Greedy & Ward are free to play man on man? we got to score 20'ish & stop RB dinks?

    4-4 … Beat the Broncos for all those years ago. They aren't as good as us. W

    5-4 … Get Hunt back. Run the ball down the Bills throat. L, best defense we play left on schedule..and it's not going well

    6-4 … Win another division game here vs. the Stealers. W

    7-4 … Get Njoku back and make the Dolphins call in the rest of the season. W

    8-4 … Stealers, remember us? Do it again. L????

    9-4 … 10-4 … The Bungles and the Cardinals get it too... W/W

    11-4 … Best the Ravens again for the division. W

    12-4 … Bengals are still recovering from the last beating. W

    12-4 Anything less is giving up. 

    7-3 is realistic of what's left?... Can we beat Pitt in Pitt? Heck... we got to have it... 9-7 maybe 10-6..Chubb & Hunt must move the chains & the 2nd & 20's has got to stop ? 

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    @gumby73 said:

    3-4 … Steal this game vs. the Patriots. Get Ward, Greedy and Higgins back. L, if Greedy & Ward are free to play man on man? we got to score 20'ish & stop RB dinks? Wilkes only plays zone.  ☹️

    4-4 … Beat the Broncos for all those years ago. They aren't as good as us. W

    5-4 … Get Hunt back. Run the ball down the Bills throat. L, best defense we play left on schedule..and it's not going well.  I'd love to see this, but you never know what you'll get with Kitchens.

    6-4 … Win another division game here vs. the Stealers. W  Wish i could agree with this one.

    7-4 … Get Njoku back and make the Dolphins call in the rest of the season. W

    8-4 … Stealers, remember us? Do it again. L????

    9-4 … 10-4 … The Bungles and the Cardinals get it too... W/W

    11-4 … Best the Ravens again for the division. W

    12-4 … Bengals are still recovering from the last beating. W  Split here  (L). 

    12-4 Anything less is giving up. 

    7-3 is realistic of what's left?... Can we beat Pitt in Pitt? Heck... we got to have it... 9-7 maybe 10-6..Chubb & Hunt must move the chains & the 2nd & 20's has got to stop ? 

    Unless we get some help on the OLine, I can't see more than 6 total wins.  Baker's got happy feet and throws his passes offline.  My confidence in Kitchens is slowly dwindling.