HC/GM/Position Coach tracker
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I laughed when I saw this under the comments section of that article:
"What a grease fire they are, and I'll admit, it's fun to watch.
Hire a guy for HC that literally no one else was even remotely interested in, with no experience running a team on any level, to run what was/is a dysfunctional group of players, just cuz he embraces analytics, and is tight with the analytics based (whatever his title is) DePodesta. Their top pick for "GM" who also embraces their methods doesn't want anything to do with them cuz of their effed up power/decision making structure headed by the owner, his wife...and their son-in-law VP.... did I read that right? LMAO, that sounds like the premise to a low budget cheesy comedy movie.
I don't think I've ever seen a combination of hubris and dysfunction quite like this before. Anybody who's part of that crowd who seem to think analytics is the solution to everything should be really nervous about what this is going to do to their cause, at least in football anyway." -
BTW I think we will get to see how this organization is functioning during FA signings and the Draft. Especially be interesting to see where the drafted players have landed in our BB Draft thread we do every year.
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The Ohio Coaching list is maddening...
Paul Brown- Norwalk,OH
Don Shula-Grand River,OH
Chuck Noll-Cleveland,OH
Ara Parseghian-Akron,OH
Woody Hayes-Arrington,OH
Bo Schembechler & Josh McDaniels- Barberton,OH
John & Jim Harbaugh & Urban Meyer-Toledo,OH
Jon Gruden-Sandusky,OH
Jim Tressell-Mentor,OH
Bob Stoops-Youngstown,OH
Les Myles-Elyria,OH
Ron Zook-Ashland,OH
Dean Pees-Dunkirk,OH
Dom Capers-Cambridge,OH
Dick LeBeau-London,OH
Sean McVay-Dayton,OH
All born in Ohio coaches... and there has to be a long list of Who I am still missing? ? Anywho? W0W! Paul Brown..You THe Man!!
The Ohio Coaching list is maddening...
Paul Brown- Norwalk,OH
Don Shula-Grand River,OH
Chuck Noll-Cleveland,OH
Ara Parseghian-Akron,OH
Woody Hayes-Arrington,OH
Bo Schembechler & Josh McDaniels- Barberton,OH
John & Jim Harbaugh & Urban Meyer-Toledo,OH
Jon Gruden-Sandusky,OH
Jim Tressell-Mentor,OH
Bob Stoops-Youngstown,OH
Les Myles-Elyria,OH
Ron Zook-Ashland,OH
Dean Pees-Dunkirk,OH
Dom Capers-Cambridge,OH
Dick LeBeau-London,OH
Sean McVay-Dayton,OH
All born in Ohio coaches... and there has to be a long list of Who I am still missing? ? Anywho? W0W! Paul Brown..You THe Man!!
Many of these guys have ties to my alma mater Miami University, aka “the cradle of coaches.” Hell, l didn’t even know Sean McVay went there until glancing at the below link. Kinda odd a school that hasn’t been known for its football program for many many years cranks out so many great coaches, but the list is impressive.
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Yup. It just seems that we're doomed to this hell......until the Halsams finally sell.
But that won't happen because he's giving up his Pilot Flying Circus. The team is going to be 'it'.
I'd be interested to know just what happened with Paton. Did he pull his name because all that time went by and Haslam didn't make an offer? - Did he tell Haslam at the 2nd interview that he needed a couple of days to think it over? And then came to his senses...err, I mean, decided to stay put?
And meanwhile we've had a bunch of potential lame ducks working Senior Bowl Week. But there's no rush....because....they're going to get it 'right' this time. (pretend that was in pink)
I would have to guess the same thing happened with him as happened with every other qualified candidate for any position with the Browns. No one of any stature wants to take orders from idiots like Jimmy and Dee and probably most of them don't have much use for answering to John depodesta.
For you Ohio rock and roll fans there's a guy named Mark Chatfield very good guitarist from the Columbus area that was Bob Seger's guitar player on the road. He wasn't a member of the band that recorded as the Silver Bullet Band had absolutely no input except to play the parts exactly as he was told in live performances. While I'm sure that was fun for a little bit eventually it was just frustrating and he quit.
WSS
I would have to guess the same thing happened with him as happened with every other qualified candidate for any position with the Browns. No one of any stature wants to take orders from idiots like Jimmy and Dee and probably most of them don't have much use for answering to John depodesta.
Well said. I would guess that a lot of candidates would not be thrilled with the structure of 'everybody and their brother' reporting directly to Haslam. It's not a 'chain' of command. It winds up being a bunch of VP's pitted against one another...all in the owner's ear. (it's just another thing that we've seen fail before. that's not to say that it COULDN'T work....just not with Jimmuh as the point person)
...Oh, WSS, my band played last night. Us two guitar players both do some structured solos, and extemporaneous leads.
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I would have to guess the same thing happened with him as happened with every other qualified candidate for any position with the Browns. No one of any stature wants to take orders from idiots like Jimmy and Dee and probably most of them don't have much use for answering to John depodesta.
Well said. I would guess that a lot of candidates would not be thrilled with the structure of 'everybody and their brother' reporting directly to Haslam. It's not a 'chain' of command. It winds up being a bunch of VP's pitted against one another...all in the owner's ear. (it's just another thing that we've seen fail before. that's not to say that it COULDN'T work....just not with Jimmuh as the point person)
...Oh, WSS, my band played last night. Us two guitar players both do some structured solos, and extemporaneous leads.
Well said. I would guess that a lot of candidates would not be thrilled with the structure of 'everybody and their brother' reporting directly to Haslam. It's not a 'chain' of command. It winds up being a bunch of VP's pitted against one another...all in the owner's ear. (it's just another thing that we've seen fail before. that's not to say that it COULDN'T work....just not with Jimmuh as the point person)
...Oh, WSS, my band played last night. Us two guitar players both do some structured solos, and extemporaneous leads.
And I'm guessing you didn't have to clear those solos with the bar owner? ?
WSS
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Can't imagine it would be that hard. At least to maintain the success we've had for the last many years.
WSS
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thanks westside.. sorry, but that just seems so unlikely that only MKC would report it (un-sourced)... Are we all to think Cabot is now writing Mother Goose stories?
Is there anyway the chosen Jimmah Godfathers are going to trust Dorsey's right nor left hand men not leaking draft info?
A) Are Wolfe & Highsmith both sitting ducks, when the clean white drafting board comes into the room?
--OR---
B.) Are they being held as the falling net if no better GM candidates will play Jimmah & The Depo Way?
Next up NFL Combine.. Who's on the Plane?
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thanks westside.. sorry, but that just seems so unlikely that only MKC would report it (un-sourced)... Are we all to think Cabot is now writing Mother Goose stories?
Is there anyway the chosen Jimmah Godfathers are going to trust Dorsey's right nor left hand men not leaking draft info?
A) Are Wolfe & Highsmith both sitting ducks, when the clean white drafting board comes into the room?
--OR---
B.) Are they being held as the falling net if no better GM candidates will play Jimmah & The Depo Way?
Next up NFL Combine.. Who's on the Plane?
thanks westside.. sorry, but that just seems so unlikely that only MKC would report it (un-sourced)... Are we all to think Cabot is now writing Mother Goose stories?
Is there anyway the chosen Jimmah Godfathers are going to trust Dorsey's right nor left hand men not leaking draft info?
A) Are Wolfe & Highsmith both sitting ducks, when the clean white drafting board comes into the room?
--OR---
B.) Are they being held as the falling net if no better GM candidates will play Jimmah & The Depo Way?
Next up NFL Combine.. Who's on the Plane?
No idea. Some of these people do this ship for a living even though that doesn't make them experts. Still maybe somebody linked to somebody linked to somebody in the organization dropped a rumor in their ear. Who knows? As candidate after candidate tell Jimmy to go fuck himself he's probably going to come down sooner or later to just about anybody with any experience.
WSS
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thanks westside.. sorry, but that just seems so unlikely that only MKC would report it (un-sourced)... Are we all to think Cabot is now writing Mother Goose stories?
Is there anyway the chosen Jimmah Godfathers are going to trust Dorsey's right nor left hand men not leaking draft info?
A) Are Wolfe & Highsmith both sitting ducks, when the clean white drafting board comes into the room?
--OR---
B.) Are they being held as the falling net if no better GM candidates will play Jimmah & The Depo Way?
Next up NFL Combine.. Who's on the Plane?
No idea. Some of these people do this ship for a living even though that doesn't make them experts. Still maybe somebody linked to somebody linked to somebody in the organization dropped a rumor in their ear. Who knows? As candidate after candidate tell Jimmy to go fuck himself he's probably going to come down sooner or later to just about anybody with any experience.
WSS
No idea. Some of these people do this ship for a living even though that doesn't make them experts. Still maybe somebody linked to somebody linked to somebody in the organization dropped a rumor in their ear. Who knows? As candidate after candidate tell Jimmy to go fuck himself he's probably going to come down sooner or later to just about anybody with any experience.
WSS
The problem comes down to this with the Haslams in charge.
Last man standing takes the cash. ?
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Well shit.
WSS
Time to tear this team down and rebuild. Garrett or Mayfield anyone??
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Well shit.
WSS
Time to tear this team down and rebuild. Garrett or Mayfield anyone??
Time to tear this team down and rebuild. Garrett or Mayfield anyone??
...can't possibly be the plan THIS time. We have too many good players that would need to be axed. Let's hope that all of those lousy player decisions belonged to Sashi.
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Time to tear this team down and rebuild. Garrett or Mayfield anyone??
...can't possibly be the plan THIS time. We have too many good players that would need to be axed. Let's hope that all of those lousy player decisions belonged to Sashi.
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I guess ignorance is bliss...
Well it was either a decision by committee or one guy takes the blame.
As long as we're stuck with Berry I hope somebody else took the blame.
WSS
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https://www.bing.com/search?q=browns+news&pc=MOZI&form=MOZTSB
49ers’ Joe Woods expects ‘seamless transition’ to Browns DC; Excited to join Kevin Stefanski if it works out
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So, for those keeping score at home...
The Browns have Paul DePodesta in a position no one seems to be able to define.
They have a first-time, 32 year old GM in Adam Berry.
They have a first-time in any capacity, 37 year old HC in Kevin Stefanski.
They have a first-time OC in Alex Van Pelt.
They have a first-time DC in Joe Woods.
All overseen by Jimmy and Dee Haslam.
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So, for those keeping score at home...
The Browns have Paul DePodesta in a position no one seems to be able to define.
They have a first-time, 32 year old GM in Adam Berry.
They have a first-time in any capacity, 37 year old HC in Kevin Stefanski.
They have a first-time OC in Alex Van Pelt.
They have a first-time DC in Joe Woods.
All overseen by Jimmy and Dee Haslam.
They have a first-time in any capacity, 37 year old HC in Kevin Stefanski.
What does "in any capacity" mean? "At any level"?
They have a first-time OC in Alex Van Pelt.
Actually he was OC in BUF under Jauron during his last season asHC... so I guess that makes him "the experienced one."
Decent rush attack, but nada for a pass game under Trent Edwards.
T.O. was on the team tho, so he's had practice handling "personalities".
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So, for those keeping score at home...
The Browns have Paul DePodesta in a position no one seems to be able to define.
They have a first-time, 32 year old GM in Adam Berry.
They have a first-time in any capacity, 37 year old HC in Kevin Stefanski.
They have a first-time OC in Alex Van Pelt.
They have a first-time DC in Joe Woods.
All overseen by Jimmy and Dee Haslam.
So, for those keeping score at home...
The Browns have Paul DePodesta in a position no one seems to be able to define.
They have a first-time, 32 year old GM in Adam Berry.
They have a first-time in any capacity, 37 year old HC in Kevin Stefanski.
They have a first-time OC in Alex Van Pelt.
They have a first-time DC in Joe Woods.
All overseen by Jimmy and Dee Haslam.
With one of the youngest rosters in the league.
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