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The two concepts are not mutually exclusive so "picking one" is illogical.
Yes, they are. Either it's a scam or you believe doctors. But keep it up - you're owning yourself, not "The Libs."
Hard To Determine Actual Covid Stats - This article includes both doctors AND statisticians - be careful, life might have nuance!
Fun fact: The above link is proving that the stats are NOT cooked.. by expanding our understanding of the reality that the numbers represent.
When you're saying that "stats are cooked" - you're saying that they're deliberately falsified. The burden's on YOU to show that deliberate falsification, starting by showing "The Truth" from which the stats start before this falsification you assert.
Or, believe doctors. One of the two is true. Your tapdance is.. a lie.
Yes, they are. Either it's a scam or you believe doctors. But keep it up - you're owning yourself, not "The Libs.
Hard To Determine Actual Covid Stats - This article includes medical pathologists - but be careful, life might have nuance!
When you're saying that "stats are cooked" - you're saying that they're deliberately falsified. The burden's on YOU to show that deliberate falsification, starting by showing "The Truth" from which the stats start before this falsification you assert.
Or, believe doctors. One of the two is true. Your tapdance is.. a lie.
Strawman argument.
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Yes, they are. Either it's a scam or you believe doctors. But keep it up - you're owning yourself, not "The Libs.
Hard To Determine Actual Covid Stats - This article includes medical pathologists - but be careful, life might have nuance!
When you're saying that "stats are cooked" - you're saying that they're deliberately falsified. The burden's on YOU to show that deliberate falsification, starting by showing "The Truth" from which the stats start before this falsification you assert.
Or, believe doctors. One of the two is true. Your tapdance is.. a lie.
Strawman argument.
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These mass graves of corona virus victims in Brazil must just fake corpses?
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And I don't think this PANDEMIC is Trumps fault.
Obviously the creation of the virus is not Trump's fault, but his dilatory policies, tactics and strategies that permitted the proliferation of it...yes, those are his fault.
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The two concepts are not mutually exclusive so "picking one" is illogical.
Yes, they are. Either it's a scam or you believe doctors. But keep it up - you're owning yourself, not "The Libs."
Hard To Determine Actual Covid Stats - This article includes both doctors AND statisticians - be careful, life might have nuance!
Fun fact: The above link is proving that the stats are NOT cooked.. by expanding our understanding of the reality that the numbers represent.
When you're saying that "stats are cooked" - you're saying that they're deliberately falsified. The burden's on YOU to show that deliberate falsification, starting by showing "The Truth" from which the stats start before this falsification you assert.
Or, believe doctors. One of the two is true. Your tapdance is.. a lie.
Yes, they are. Either it's a scam or you believe doctors. But keep it up - you're owning yourself, not "The Libs."
Hard To Determine Actual Covid Stats - This article includes both doctors AND statisticians - be careful, life might have nuance!
Fun fact: The above link is proving that the stats are NOT cooked.. by expanding our understanding of the reality that the numbers represent.
When you're saying that "stats are cooked" - you're saying that they're deliberately falsified. The burden's on YOU to show that deliberate falsification, starting by showing "The Truth" from which the stats start before this falsification you assert.
Or, believe doctors. One of the two is true. Your tapdance is.. a lie.
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These mass graves of corona virus victims in Brazil must just fake corpses?
These mass graves of corona virus victims in Brazil must just fake corpses?
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And I don't think this PANDEMIC is Trumps fault.
Obviously the creation of the virus is not Trump's fault, but his dilatory policies, tactics and strategies that permitted the proliferation of it...yes, those are his fault.
And I don't think this PANDEMIC is Trumps fault.
Obviously the creation of the virus is not Trump's fault, but his dilatory policies, tactics and strategies that permitted the proliferation of it...yes, those are his fault.
Hmm, I actually started this by defending you, have had multiple messages on this thread, and you single out a single sentence to give "meaning" to. Yeah, doesn't surprise me.
What cannot be answered is what other leaders would have done. Me saying he isn't at fault is just that, he isn't at fault. Could some of his actions have made things better OR worse, sure. And some of his actions don't present well, but I don't think that any of this should be looked at politically from either side, and while still in the pandemic not a time for blame. Everyone should work together for the better of ALL, not just because you like Red or Blue
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Well technically, nobody knows how long it has been here. If it is your intention to take up for the President (nothing wrong with that), that hurts your argument.
And I am unwilling to use the word only when talking about life. And if you are one of the people who tries to compare this virus to driving and other things that kills more people then you certainly lose all credibility. Not saying that it doesn't, but driving isn't contagious, neither is cancer, etc.
And if this is much ado about nothing, or hoax or whatever you want to label it as, then exactly how do you explain places/situations/cities with closer more frequent contact being at higher risk?
Not wanting to believe everything, statistics, etc is VERY different than calling it a hoax, plan, etc. And it makes ZERO sense why this would be something a political party would do when it is effecting both sides, rich and poor.
The flue is contagious.. Zika is contagious.. colds are contagious... Sars is contagious... West Nile is contagious..Swine flu is contagious.... Ebola is contagious.. Ecoli is contagious.. Bacteria is contagious.. And so on.. You can't save everybody.... Sweden did Herd Immunity.. and they came out ok... But keep believing this SCAMDEMIC all you like... its a free country... How long do think you can keep kids penned up until they lose they're own natural Immunity fight to germs, viruses and other Contagion?... Your own Immune system is your best defense.. Quit believing the stupid lies like a bunch of sheeple...
EDIT: Measles, whooping cough, malaria, AIDS, SARS, etc,....all still exist. Science hasn't figured out a way to eradicate a virus yet,...just how to treat it--which is awesome mind us all!
West Nile is contagious.
Ummmm.... no.
The West Nile virus is not contagious. It cannot be transmitted from person to person. A person cannot get the virus, for example, from touching or kissing a person who has the disease or from a health-care worker who has treated someone with the disease.
- The virus is carried from infected birds to people by mosquitoes.
- There is no evidence for transmission from person to person.
https://www.medicinenet.com/west_nile_encephalitis/article.htm
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These mass graves of corona virus victims in Brazil must just fake corpses?
So Bloomberg is not fake news? Or does a 2-month old Bloomberg article gain credibility with time?
It's well-known now that certain factors increase the lethality of Covid-19. Doesn't change the fact that the virus hastened deaths...
Why not simply make the argument that mortality is the real problem?
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@icecube said:
You clearly have anger issues and a foggy brain. Do everyone a favor and seek help.
Since EVER single person this board but nickers is questioning how you perceive reality and your gross inability to grasp basic medical and scientific fact, I think it you that needs to check in for 72 hold at the nearest psych ward. And once again you deflect, offer up nothing substantial, and are caught in yet another lie by other members. Just quit, it quite sad, and equally pathetic.
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Well technically, nobody knows how long it has been here. If it is your intention to take up for the President (nothing wrong with that), that hurts your argument.
And I am unwilling to use the word only when talking about life. And if you are one of the people who tries to compare this virus to driving and other things that kills more people then you certainly lose all credibility. Not saying that it doesn't, but driving isn't contagious, neither is cancer, etc.
And if this is much ado about nothing, or hoax or whatever you want to label it as, then exactly how do you explain places/situations/cities with closer more frequent contact being at higher risk?
Not wanting to believe everything, statistics, etc is VERY different than calling it a hoax, plan, etc. And it makes ZERO sense why this would be something a political party would do when it is effecting both sides, rich and poor.
The flue is contagious.. Zika is contagious.. colds are contagious... Sars is contagious... West Nile is contagious..Swine flu is contagious.... Ebola is contagious.. Ecoli is contagious.. Bacteria is contagious.. And so on.. You can't save everybody.... Sweden did Herd Immunity.. and they came out ok... But keep believing this SCAMDEMIC all you like... its a free country... How long do think you can keep kids penned up until they lose they're own natural Immunity fight to germs, viruses and other Contagion?... Your own Immune system is your best defense.. Quit believing the stupid lies like a bunch of sheeple...
EDIT: Measles, whooping cough, malaria, AIDS, SARS, etc,....all still exist. Science hasn't figured out a way to eradicate a virus yet,...just how to treat it--which is awesome mind us all!
The flue is contagious.. Zika is contagious.. colds are contagious... Sars is contagious... West Nile is contagious..Swine flu is contagious.... Ebola is contagious.. Ecoli is contagious.. Bacteria is contagious.. And so on.. You can't save everybody.... Sweden did Herd Immunity.. and they came out ok... But keep believing this SCAMDEMIC all you like... its a free country... How long do think you can keep kids penned up until they lose they're own natural Immunity fight to germs, viruses and other Contagion?... Your own Immune system is your best defense.. Quit believing the stupid lies like a bunch of sheeple...
EDIT: Measles, whooping cough, malaria, AIDS, SARS, etc,....all still exist. Science hasn't figured out a way to eradicate a virus yet,...just how to treat it--which is awesome mind us all!
Truth.
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And I don't think this PANDEMIC is Trumps fault.
Obviously the creation of the virus is not Trump's fault, but his dilatory policies, tactics and strategies that permitted the proliferation of it...yes, those are his fault.
Hmm, I actually started this by defending you, have had multiple messages on this thread, and you single out a single sentence to give "meaning" to. Yeah, doesn't surprise me.
What cannot be answered is what other leaders would have done. Me saying he isn't at fault is just that, he isn't at fault. Could some of his actions have made things better OR worse, sure. And some of his actions don't present well, but I don't think that any of this should be looked at politically from either side, and while still in the pandemic not a time for blame. Everyone should work together for the better of ALL, not just because you like Red or Blue
Hmm, I actually started this by defending you, have had multiple messages on this thread, and you single out a single sentence to give "meaning" to. Yeah, doesn't surprise me.
Right, I had no intention of trying to respond to your entire post...just that one comment. So what? The fact is, his blatant disregard, even contempt for how serious this thing was going to be despite numerous warnings is his fault.
What cannot be answered is what other leaders would have done.
Well...we sort of can. We can tell what other leaders DID. (and he comes out at or near the bottom of things)
Me saying he isn't at fault is just that, he isn't at fault. Could some of his actions have made things better OR worse, sure. And some of his actions don't present well
No shit.
, but I don't think that any of this should be looked at politically from either side, and while still in the pandemic not a time for blame. Everyone should work together for the better of ALL, not just because you like Red or Blue.
I agree completely.....and the truth is, most of my criticisms of Trump have nothing whatsover to do with the left/right....liberal/conservative dichotomy. They have to do with far, far more basic matters: His dishonesty, his corruptibility, his incompetence, his indecency, his lack of humanity, his narcissism, etc. etc. etc. None of which has to do with politics...but with character. Just a note on that: I was basically opposed to much of G.W. Bush's policies.....but, unlike DJT I am not critical of him on most of the matters that I am critical of Trump on: (with One major exception: the whole WMD lie that led to the Iraq War...that was bad.) GW Bush was a guy you could like: Overall he was basically honest, decent, his administration was competent, he thought and acted humanely. Not this guy.
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Yes, they are. Either it's a scam or you believe doctors. But keep it up - you're owning yourself, not "The Libs.
Hard To Determine Actual Covid Stats - This article includes medical pathologists - but be careful, life might have nuance!
When you're saying that "stats are cooked" - you're saying that they're deliberately falsified. The burden's on YOU to show that deliberate falsification, starting by showing "The Truth" from which the stats start before this falsification you assert.
Or, believe doctors. One of the two is true. Your tapdance is.. a lie.
Strawman argument.
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The two concepts are not mutually exclusive so "picking one" is illogical.
Yes, they are. Either it's a scam or you believe doctors. But keep it up - you're owning yourself, not "The Libs."
Hard To Determine Actual Covid Stats - This article includes both doctors AND statisticians - be careful, life might have nuance!
Fun fact: The above link is proving that the stats are NOT cooked.. by expanding our understanding of the reality that the numbers represent.
When you're saying that "stats are cooked" - you're saying that they're deliberately falsified. The burden's on YOU to show that deliberate falsification, starting by showing "The Truth" from which the stats start before this falsification you assert.
Or, believe doctors. One of the two is true. Your tapdance is.. a lie.
When you're saying that "stats are cooked" - you're saying that they're deliberately falsified. The burden's on YOU to show that deliberate falsification, starting by showing "The Truth" from which the stats start before this falsification you assert.
While I don't share the same views as nickers on a lot of the covid stuff the stats are being deliberately falsified in the sense that flu pneumonia and common cold deaths have went down to zero at this time. Hospitals are attributing all those and any respiratory deaths to COVID19 even without a positive test for covid. They are doing so because they get more money for labeling it a covid death. In my hometown (not a small place) just last week they had a known pneumonia death that was tagged as a covid death so they could get the 39k because the patient was put on a ventilator. This is according to multiple personnel that I know who work there
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I'll take this post to mean you retract all your previous statements in this thread saying that you don't believe scientists.
He only believes in them if it from "reputable" news sources like Alex Jones, Fox News, or whatever crack-pot forum white nationalist/terrorist use.
He only believes in them if it from "reputable" news sources like Alex Jones, Fox News, or whatever crack-pot forum white nationalist/terrorist use.
The Blaze! You can't leave out the Truth from The Blaze! And then there is his highness who never tells a lie because it was that lyin' Obama's fault! Just ask Fox! The Liar King's 24 hour source of truth, justice and the American way!??
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So Bloomberg is not fake news? Or does a 2-month old Bloomberg article gain credibility with time?
It's well-known now that certain factors increase the lethality of Covid-19. Doesn't change the fact that the virus hastened deaths...
Why not simply make the argument that mortality is the real problem?
So Bloomberg is not fake news? Or does a 2-month old Bloomberg article gain credibility with time?
It's well-known now that certain factors increase the lethality of Covid-19. Doesn't change the fact that the virus hastened deaths...
Why not simply make the argument that mortality is the real problem?
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He only believes in them if it from "reputable" news sources like Alex Jones, Fox News, or whatever crack-pot forum white nationalist/terrorist use.
The Blaze! You can't leave out the Truth from The Blaze! And then there is his highness who never tells a lie because it was that lyin' Obama's fault! Just ask Fox! The Liar King's 24 hour source of truth, justice and the American way!??
The Blaze! You can't leave out the Truth from The Blaze! And then there is his highness who never tells a lie because it was that lyin' Obama's fault! Just ask Fox! The Liar King's 24 hour source of truth, justice and the American way!??
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Hmm, I actually started this by defending you, have had multiple messages on this thread, and you single out a single sentence to give "meaning" to. Yeah, doesn't surprise me.
Right, I had no intention of trying to respond to your entire post...just that one comment. So what? The fact is, his blatant disregard, even contempt for how serious this thing was going to be despite numerous warnings is his fault.
What cannot be answered is what other leaders would have done.
Well...we sort of can. We can tell what other leaders DID. (and he comes out at or near the bottom of things)
Me saying he isn't at fault is just that, he isn't at fault. Could some of his actions have made things better OR worse, sure. And some of his actions don't present well
No shit.
, but I don't think that any of this should be looked at politically from either side, and while still in the pandemic not a time for blame. Everyone should work together for the better of ALL, not just because you like Red or Blue.
I agree completely.....and the truth is, most of my criticisms of Trump have nothing whatsover to do with the left/right....liberal/conservative dichotomy. They have to do with far, far more basic matters: His dishonesty, his corruptibility, his incompetence, his indecency, his lack of humanity, his narcissism, etc. etc. etc. None of which has to do with politics...but with character. Just a note on that: I was basically opposed to much of G.W. Bush's policies.....but, unlike DJT I am not critical of him on most of the matters that I am critical of Trump on: (with One major exception: the whole WMD lie that led to the Iraq War...that was bad.) GW Bush was a guy you could like: Overall he was basically honest, decent, his administration was competent, he thought and acted humanely. Not this guy.
The entire point of you only replying to one sentence is not referring to any context whatsoever.
I don't see how you or anyone can say he has/hasn't done a good job compared to how others would have. It would all be assumptions.
And if you are referring to other countries, I don't think they are comparable for a huge list of reasons, including things that are present in this thread. And while I think that a bunch of the criticism brought upon Mr. Trump can be attributed to his demeanor, that adds another layer to it as well. Because you know that there are large segments of the population that will either do exactly everything he says or will refuse because he said it.
In my opinion, I think that people should do their own research from either a neutral POV or from both sides. Because when people just state things without actually thinking of the counter argument just makes them look uninformed (not specifically saying anyone in particular). The most likely truth is that Mr. Trump has done some "good" things with this and some "bad" things. But along with your demeanor comment, it certainly doesn't help that everything is "perfect".
Now what would be interesting to see is what the response be from people who are so set against POTUS if it was scientifically proven that hydroxychlorquine is effective if available to the masses if they would take it. If they wouldn't, then in my view they are being hypocritical by saying people are inhumane with refusing to wear masks and vice versa.
Again, I can see things on both "sides" of this argument. I can certainly see the numbers being incorrect, but I also don't automatically look at that as being purposely done. But I actually look each day in my area (and its a small area so not bad at all comparably). And day to day some numbers change, even going down). So by definition one of those days had to have been misreported. That doesn't mean it was done maliciously
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West Nile is contagious.
Ummmm.... no.
The West Nile virus is not contagious. It cannot be transmitted from person to person. A person cannot get the virus, for example, from touching or kissing a person who has the disease or from a health-care worker who has treated someone with the disease.
- The virus is carried from infected birds to people by mosquitoes.
- There is no evidence for transmission from person to person.
https://www.medicinenet.com/west_nile_encephalitis/article.htm
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It still contagious.. You have to get it from something.. or someone... it doesnt just magically show up...
Transmittable is different than contagious.
You can transmit HIV, it is however, not contagious.
Are you just fucking around or actually that dense? I'm hoping the former but these days anymore....ya just don't know.
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