NFL / Covid Updates
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Oh, I can continue....ad infinitum if need be I am interested. Ask anyone here. But you don't interest me.
No worries Gunz, this is what Gip does when he is called to task: retreat and hide.
No worries Gunz, this is what Gip does when he is called to task: retreat and hide.
No, its what I do when I get bored. Same as anyone really. I am not actually contesting a lot of what Gunz says. Of course he kind of argues out of both sides of his cheeks, which is fine. With him, it is just somewhat tiresome.
With you....on the other hand...while your continued mendacity can also be ponderous, it can also occasionally be so ubiquitous as to be slightly amusing.
So, lets do this: add to things: Are you like certain people I know who argue that "these coronavirus numbers should not be considered right, because most of those cases involve prisons, nursing homes, and meat packing plants and should not be counted as real people dying". (this person lives in Tennessee, and makes out how Tenn. has been so great when you don't have to count those people, which I guess he does not see as actual human beings)
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Do they use a needle and a spoon?
No, you're thinking of the lib cities: needles all over, human feces in the streets - all those super awesome traits.
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It still contagious.. You have to get it from something.. or someone... it doesnt just magically show up...
Transmittable is different than contagious.
You can transmit HIV, it is however, not contagious.
Are you just fucking around or actually that dense? I'm hoping the former but these days anymore....ya just don't know.
Transmittable is different than contagious.
You can transmit HIV, it is however, not contagious.
Are you just fucking around or actually that dense? I'm hoping the former but these days anymore....ya just don't know.
To me.. Transmittable is about the same.. your still catching something from someone..... The brutal truth is.. it can be spread.. The vehicle in how it gets there is minute to me.. if you can sense perfume through a mask.. Chances are it (A Mask) cannot prevent much else either..
Nickers...."There are no old running QB's in the NFL "~Sam Rutigliano~ -
The Blaze! You can't leave out the Truth from The Blaze! And then there is his highness who never tells a lie because it was that lyin' Obama's fault! Just ask Fox! The Liar King's 24 hour source of truth, justice and the American way!??
Either you are a complete idiot or you're a great troll. For some reason I lean toward thinking it is the former.?
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Transmittable is different than contagious.
You can transmit HIV, it is however, not contagious.
Are you just fucking around or actually that dense? I'm hoping the former but these days anymore....ya just don't know.
To me.. Transmittable is about the same.. your still catching something from someone..... The brutal truth is.. it can be spread.. The vehicle in how it gets there is minute to me.. if you can sense perfume through a mask.. Chances are it (A Mask) cannot prevent much else either..
To me.. Transmittable is about the same.. your still catching something from someone..... The brutal truth is.. it can be spread.. The vehicle in how it gets there is minute to me.. if you can sense perfume through a mask.. Chances are it (A Mask) cannot prevent much else either..
OK, well I think what you are saying is that anything that you can get from someone else is "transmittable" or "contagious". I don't know if there is a medical distinction between the two. I'm not a Doctor, and I don't even play one on TV.
But I do think there is a vast distinction in terms of "Ease of transmitibility" (not sure that's a word).
I mean, there is huge difference between something that you can get just by being in a crowd and by people breathing on you....as can happen with Coronavirus; and having to fuck someone in the ass or share a drug needle, or somehow share blood or fluids, like with AIDS. So I would not say that is a "minute" difference. Even at that, in the last 40 years when Aids came about, there have been about 700,000 deaths from that.
I have a good friend of mine whose Dad died of West Nile Virus. I knew the Dad also. Over the course of 3 years, in Ohio, "only" 15 people died of that particular disease. But it was still scary as hell, knowing it was transmitted by mosquitoes.....and that someone you know did. Since 1999 about 2300 people have died of it in the US...and people are still dying from it....about 51 in the US in 2019.
Ebola is transmitted by direct contact with bodily fluids, blood, vomit, feces. With our superior sanitation in this country that is why it was far less communicable here than in like Africa, where sanitation and hygiene are piss poor in a lot of places. We had just 2 deaths from Ebola in the US. Africa had thousands.
SARS is also transmitted by coughing, sneezing, breathing. So, we could ask: why were we so much better able to control that than this. With SARS, there were "only" 774 deaths worldwide....and -0- in the USA.
H1N1 or swine flu: also transmitted by coughing/sneezing. And in 2009 we did have 12,469 deaths in the US from it. That began in April of that year, but the pandemic was declared over by August that same year. Though, there are still some cases of it that happen even now.
The "Spanish Flu" epidemic of 1918-1919 was also transmitted by coughing/sneezing/breathing. And it killed 40 million worldwide. That was more than double the number killed in World War I...which was about 20 million. (By comparison, about 75 million were killed in WWII.) In the US that number was about 675,000. But, as I understand, about 175K of those were in the "first wave"....and the other 500K came in the second wave.
So, that is a scary thought here.
Well...there is your pandemic scorecard, and methods of transmittal.
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https://www.infectioncontroltoday.com/mask-respirators/cloth-masks-are-useless-against-covid-19
Then don't wear one. Catch it, die.
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https://www.infectioncontroltoday.com/mask-respirators/cloth-masks-are-useless-against-covid-19
Then don't wear one. Catch it, die.
Then don't wear one. Catch it, die.
Do you ever wonder why there is no love in your heart?
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Then don't wear one. Catch it, die.
Do you ever wonder why there is no love in your heart?
Do you ever wonder why there is no love in your heart?
Do you ever wonder why there is little intelligence in your brain?
Actually, don't bother answering... I don't care.
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Then don't wear one. Catch it, die.
Do you ever wonder why there is no love in your heart?
Someday, we'll all learn the lesson: Don't engage the bad-faith debater on his terms.
Do you ever wonder why there is no love in your heart?
Ad hominem.
The reason he has no point is that every single thing he posts is a logical fallacy -- those links by themselves are an "appeal to authority" as is his obsession with Cowherd: "It must be true because __ said it / posted it"
Or the strawman arguments, or the appeal to ignorance [to knock down doctors..], or the slippery slopes [Lockdowns are happening because BILL GATES], or the circular/bandwagon arguments [People disagree therefore they're right because as you can see they disagree and freedumb!].
He hasn't used the bifurcation fallacy but I'm sure that's on deck also. He won't use alphabet soup because that would require independent thought - unless he copy-pastes it from another forum which I wouldn't put past him.
Trying to engage with him is like trying to nail Jello to a wall..
The more labels you have for yourself, the dumber they make you. "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." Paul Brown -
Someday, we'll all learn the lesson: Don't engage the bad-faith debater on his terms.
Do you ever wonder why there is no love in your heart?
Ad hominem.
The reason he has no point is that every single thing he posts is a logical fallacy -- those links by themselves are an "appeal to authority" as is his obsession with Cowherd: "It must be true because __ said it / posted it"
Or the strawman arguments, or the appeal to ignorance [to knock down doctors..], or the slippery slopes [Lockdowns are happening because BILL GATES], or the circular/bandwagon arguments [People disagree therefore they're right because as you can see they disagree and freedumb!].
He hasn't used the bifurcation fallacy but I'm sure that's on deck also. He won't use alphabet soup because that would require independent thought - unless he copy-pastes it from another forum which I wouldn't put past him.
Trying to engage with him is like trying to nail Jello to a wall..
Someday, we'll all learn the lesson: Don't engage the bad-faith debater on his terms.
Trying to engage with him is like trying to nail Jello to a wall..
The British View might help.?
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Wrong. Many of them are losing money. Nobody wants to go to a hospital right now. Nobody's having elective surgery. Violence is down because bars are closed. - My son works at a hospital. Yet another reason that my hair is grey.
Yes many are losing money, but that doesn't dismiss the fact hospitals made "huge" dollars by exaggerating CV...which is mandated. "Huge" is relative btw. It doesn't imply that it covered their losses.
If a person dies of heart disease, but had COVID, they died of COVID. If a person had only weeks to live because of cancer, and they had COVID, they died of COVID. The deaths are so inflated. This whole fuckin COVID thing is so goddamned phony.
And my son works at a hospital too.
And just recently we had the CDC tell us that COVID doesn't live very long on surfaces after all.
Yes many are losing money, but that doesn't dismiss the fact hospitals made "huge" dollars by exaggerating CV...which is mandated.
Setting aside the opening contradiction for the moment...
I want to know who issued the mandate.
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
Wrong. Many of them are losing money. Nobody wants to go to a hospital right now. Nobody's having elective surgery. Violence is down because bars are closed. - My son works at a hospital. Yet another reason that my hair is grey.
Oh, I know hospitals are generally empty now (but that doesn't fit into the mainstream/govt. narrative). But hospitals get something like $16k for every claimed CV case, so in places like NY they counted every pneumonia death as CV, even though they often didn't even know if CV was involved. Corrupt to the core.
Oh, I know hospitals are generally empty now
Data?
Corrupt to the core.
I see no reason to bring Pompeo into this discussion.
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
Oh, I can continue....ad infinitum if need be I am interested. Ask anyone here. But you don't interest me.
No worries Gunz, this is what Gip does when he is called to task: retreat and hide.
No worries Gunz, this is what Gip does when he is called to task: retreat and hide.
Trust me... that ain't in his repertoire.
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
Not to worry. Trumpy is ordering CDC to say that churches can now safely open. Right from the highest Scientologist I think.?
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https://www.infectioncontroltoday.com/mask-respirators/cloth-masks-are-useless-against-covid-19
I love it when folks don't read what they post...
"And at the end of the day, cloth masks in my opinion don’t work in any form. They aren’t very good at source control, except for maybe very large particles. And they should not be used in healthcare settings for a number of reasons. Surgical masks, I decided, based on the literature, might have a role as source control for people who have symptoms. Say if they’re staying home and they have some symptoms. They shouldn’t be something you’d wear if you have symptoms going out into the public because you shouldn’t be going out into the public service. But it’s a good option for patients to wear in healthcare settings where they—especially for those who are experiencing symptoms—to what I would call diminish the viral load. Basically, decrease the amount of particles, infectious particles in the air in a healthcare setting. So, at the end of the day, the only thing that provides personal protection for the person wearing the mask is a respirator. And that is the thing that healthcare workers should be wearing."
Also love articles whose writers don't know how to use a "return key". That said...
What we have here is an opinion piece, a "thought experiment"... and it ain't Einstein level... hell, it's barely coherent... which concludes:
- cloth masks don't effectively protect the wearer... something already known and accepted.
- if cloth masks do eliminate "very large particles" (and they do... as well as large particles... medium large ones... medium ones... medium small) in the wearers exhalations, then they work.
- surgical masks do protect wearers and are effective in reducing spread by the infected, a/k/a "reduce the viral load"... again something already known.
- respirators are best.
So rather than call for respirators, or at minimum surgical masks, to be available for the public, you chose to jump on a headline to support an asinine position that cloth masks aren't worth the trouble.
I only hope that like nickers, your position is not your practice.
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Someday, we'll all learn the lesson: Don't engage the bad-faith debater on his terms.
Do you ever wonder why there is no love in your heart?
Ad hominem.
The reason he has no point is that every single thing he posts is a logical fallacy -- those links by themselves are an "appeal to authority" as is his obsession with Cowherd: "It must be true because __ said it / posted it"
Or the strawman arguments, or the appeal to ignorance [to knock down doctors..], or the slippery slopes [Lockdowns are happening because BILL GATES], or the circular/bandwagon arguments [People disagree therefore they're right because as you can see they disagree and freedumb!].
He hasn't used the bifurcation fallacy but I'm sure that's on deck also. He won't use alphabet soup because that would require independent thought - unless he copy-pastes it from another forum which I wouldn't put past him.
Trying to engage with him is like trying to nail Jello to a wall..
the bifurcation fallacy
Isn't that one of Hannity's favorites?
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Bifurcation Fallacy sounds like a Canadian hardcore band.
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Setting aside the opening contradiction for the moment...
I want to know who issued the mandate.
I don't believe it is mandated but maybe Gorka will prove me wrong. However it is a fact that hospitals receive more money (39k) from insurances if a "covid" patient is put on a respirator. I believe they only receive something like 13k normally for patients on respirators.
Source: my girlfriend who is a respiration therapist at a big hospital in Columbus.
Edit
Also if you look at the number of flu, cold, pneumonia, deaths after this policy was put into effect they have dramatically decreased compared to "normal" statistics from previous years.
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Transmittable is different than contagious.
You can transmit HIV, it is however, not contagious.
Are you just fucking around or actually that dense? I'm hoping the former but these days anymore....ya just don't know.
To me.. Transmittable is about the same.. your still catching something from someone..... The brutal truth is.. it can be spread.. The vehicle in how it gets there is minute to me.. if you can sense perfume through a mask.. Chances are it (A Mask) cannot prevent much else either..
To me.. Transmittable is about the same.. your still catching something from someone..... The brutal truth is.. it can be spread.. The vehicle in how it gets there is minute to me.. if you can sense perfume through a mask.. Chances are it (A Mask) cannot prevent much else either..
You see, here is ANOTHER example of using a bad talking point for your argument. There is a BIG difference to me (and most people) in how these things are contracted. With something like AIDS, it is because of a person's ACTIONS. And with this, it can just be by leaving your house or being within 6 ft. of an infected person.
Its simple cause and effect.
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