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  • @runyon27 said:

    I could have worded it better. My point was, the first throw in the last game he had OBJ 1 on 1 on the outside, but he wasn't really open. I think he was predetermined to throw there because it was OBJ rather than find another receiver who was more open so to speak.

    OBJ was about as open on Baker's 1st pass as Peeps was on Baker's last.

    tia... if you look at the all-22, I'm curious if the above two plays were the same...

    @tour2ma said:

    OBJ was about as open on Baker's 1st pass as Peeps was on Baker's last.

    tia... if you look at the all-22, I'm curious if the above two plays were the same...

    Also tia, I read a tweet that said it appeared Baker had to move to his second read like twice all game.

    If you do look at the All-22, I wonder if this is true. 

  • @runyon27 said:

    I could have worded it better. My point was, the first throw in the last game he had OBJ 1 on 1 on the outside, but he wasn't really open. I think he was predetermined to throw there because it was OBJ rather than find another receiver who was more open so to speak.

    OBJ was about as open on Baker's 1st pass as Peeps was on Baker's last.

    tia... if you look at the all-22, I'm curious if the above two plays were the same...

    @tour2ma said:

    OBJ was about as open on Baker's 1st pass as Peeps was on Baker's last.

    tia... if you look at the all-22, I'm curious if the above two plays were the same...

    @dutch-oven said:

    Also tia, I read a tweet that said it appeared Baker had to move to his second read like twice all game.

    If you do look at the All-22, I wonder if this is true. 

    More on that tomorrow when it's available.

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  • Have to say that Bryant has played better and made a bigger splash than I thought he would.

    The kid's a worker...

  • They don't give the Mackey Award to incompetent people...

  • They don't give the Mackey Award to incompetent people...

    @unsympathetic said:

    They don't give the Mackey Award to incompetent people...

    Oops...

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    😉

    https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/awards/mackey.html

  • @unsympathetic said:

    They don't give the Mackey Award to incompetent people...

    Oops...

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    😉

    https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/awards/mackey.html

    @tour2ma said:

    Oops...

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    😉

    https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/awards/mackey.html

    At killing people, Hernandez was very competent. 

  • @tour2ma said:

    Oops...

    image.png.ef54a054e5816703c5d696391dabce4d.png

    😉

    https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/awards/mackey.html

    At killing people, Hernandez was very competent. 

    @dutch-oven said:

    At killing people, Hernandez was very competent. 

    At not getting caught..........well not so competent since he left his CCTV running.??

  • Not getting caught is kind of an important criteria for being good at killing people... prolly why we can't name the truly greats... 😳

    Joking aside tho... the Mackey Award list is pretty damn impressive...

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  • @runyon27 said:

    I could have worded it better. My point was, the first throw in the last game he had OBJ 1 on 1 on the outside, but he wasn't really open. I think he was predetermined to throw there because it was OBJ rather than find another receiver who was more open so to speak.

    OBJ was about as open on Baker's 1st pass as Peeps was on Baker's last.

    tia... if you look at the all-22, I'm curious if the above two plays were the same...

    @tour2ma said:

    OBJ was about as open on Baker's 1st pass as Peeps was on Baker's last.

    tia... if you look at the all-22, I'm curious if the above two plays were the same...

    Back with an answer...

    As far as the plays being the same?  No.   

    DPJ and Bryant were running a divide to the boundary.     When Odell got hurt it was a hitch-square combo with Hoop & Juice and ODB on the 9 by his lonesome.     But the real question is ball placement.   The throw to ODB on his injury was piss poor at best.   It wasn't an attempt at back-shoulder, it wasn't a deliberate underthrow.  It was short and inside, plain and simple. 

    On the DPJ touchdown however - Can't tell.   Part of me thinks the backshoulder was intentional because when Baker starts his release, DPJ is even with the DB.  So it may be a case of not having that timing, chemistry and understanding of your own WR down as much as we'd like.             On the other hand, putting the ball back inside is questionable as hell because if that pass is at the back pylon, there was no way that safety would have affected the play either.   

    @dutch-oven said:

    Also tia, I read a tweet that said it appeared Baker had to move to his second read like twice all game.

    If you do look at the All-22, I wonder if this is true. 

    I went through most of the 1st quarter to when he started connecting on passes.    Cincy did.... not make it difficult.     To say the least.