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The Gipper

Frequently interviewed HC candidates:

Eric Bienemy

Robert Saleh

Todd Bowles

Arthur Smith

Joe Brady

Marvin Lewis

Raheem Morris

Brandon Staley

though.....I wonder how many of these are merely pro forma Rooney rule interviewees.

nickers

So Matt Rhule is out after one season?.. interesting...

Neo

@the-gipper said:

As is Brian Daboll.....Buffalo OC (and didn't he do that here, and we hated him?)

Wasn't he part of the Derek Anderson 10-6 season?

The Gipper

@nickers said:

So Matt Rhule is out after one season?.. interesting...

No, I don't think so. He is the HC of the Carolina Panthers. As far as I can tell, they are looking for a GM, not an HC.

The Gipper

@neo said:

Wasn't he part of the Derek Anderson 10-6 season?

Not sure. I thought he was here after that.

In checking....no, he was here after that. in 2007 he was with the Jets....in 2009 and 2010 the Browns were 5-11 both years. :

Wide receivers coach (2002–2006)
New York Jets (2007–2008)
Quarterbacks coach
Cleveland Browns (2009–2010)
Offensive coordinator

Tour2ma

@neo said:

Wasn't he part of the Derek Anderson 10-6 season?

That Chud back in '07...

Daboll was '09-'10... worked with DA and BQ in '09, and Colt/Seneca/Delhome in 2010.

Mark O

@tour2ma said:

Daboll was '09-'10... worked with DA and BQ in '09, and Colt/Seneca/Delhome in 2010.

Colt/Seneca/Delhome.....yikes...what a trio that was.

The Gipper

@tour2ma said:

That Chud back in '07...

Daboll was '09-'10... worked with DA and BQ in '09, and Colt/Seneca/Delhome in 2010.

Yea I just said that

Tour2ma

Amen, brother...

God... I can still remember hearing we'd signed Delhomme and my 1st thought, "We couldn't find a vet that was more shot?"

Mark O

Zombo said:

And it was actually better than Kiser /Kessler / Hogan.

Thank you, Baker, thank you.

Z

God what a shit show those 3 were.

Whatever happened to that bozo who was in love with Hogan? Telling us all for weeks that Hogan was the 2nd coming of Aaron Rodgers.

Tour2ma

@mark-o said:

Whatever happened to that bozo who was in love with Hogan?

Pretty sure that was Hue...

The Gipper

@tour2ma said:

Pretty sure that was Hue...

He is talking about Poetic G.

And I don't know what happened to him......he did put like a single post on here a few days ago. Perhaps he found a more delusion tolerant forum to participate in.

Dutch Oven

@mark-o said:

God what a shit show those 3 were.

Whatever happened to that bozo who was in love with Hogan? Telling us all for weeks that Hogan was the 2nd coming of Aaron Rodgers.

Man, I completely forgot about that...

It must have got kicked out of my memory bank by the 25 page Draft Saquon Barkley! thread that will forever be a classic on here.

Tour2ma

Meanwhile...

~~Urban to JAX seems to be heating up.~~

Update... it's a done deal now.

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/30711061/jacksonville-jaguars-hiring-urban-meyer-coach

The Gipper

@the-gipper said:

Teams with HC openings now:

Atlanta

Detroit

Houston

~~Jacksonville~~ Meyer hired.

LA Chargers

Jets

Eagles

Teams with GM openings still:

Atlanta

~~Carolina~~ See below

~~Denver~~ See below

~~Detroit~~ see below

Jacksonville

Longtime Vikings assistant general manager and VP of player personnel George Paton has been hired as the new general manager of the Denver Broncos. Paton, who spent the past 14 years with the Vikings, agreed to a six-year deal on Jan. 13.

Detroit Lions hire Brad Holmes

Los Angeles Rams director of college scouting Brad Holmes has been hired as the new general manager of the Detroit Lions. Holmes, who has served in various roles for the Rams over the past 18 years, agreed to terms on a five-year deal on Jan. 14.

Carolina Panthers expected to hire Scott Fitterer

Seattle Seahawks VP of football operations Scott Fitterer is expected to be hired by the Carolina Panthers as their next general manager.

ATOM

Zombo said:

And it was actually better than Kiser /Kessler / Hogan.

Thank you, Baker, thank you.

Z

who was that that was the big hogan fan ?

was it poe ?

Ibleedbrown

@the-gipper said:

Longtime Vikings assistant general manager and VP of player personnel George Paton has been hired as the new general manager of the Denver Broncos. Paton, who spent the past 14 years with the Vikings, agreed to a six-year deal on Jan. 13.

Isn’t that the guy who turned us down last year?

Tour2ma

@ibleedbrown said:

Isn’t that the guy who turned us down last year?

Good memory... may I borrow it sometime?

https://www.cleveland.com/browns/2020/01/george-paton-takes-himself-out-of-running-for-browns-gm-source-says-andrew-berry-the-leading-candidate.html

Not sure Detroit's "progress" is a resume padder.

So far I think we've done OK with our choice...

The Gipper

New York Jets hire Robert Saleh

New York Jets announced they hired San Francisco defensive coordinator Robert Saleh on Jan. 14.

D Bone

The Eagles just need to Trust The Process:

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/eagles-front-office-exec-built-050455689.html

John Dorsey, the Eagles front office exec who built two playoff teams

Reuben Frank
Thu, January 14, 2021, 9:04 PM
The Eagles front office exec who built two playoff teams originally appeared on NBC Sports Philadelphia

When the Chiefs and Browns meet in the playoffs Sunday, both teams will have the imprint of the same general manager.

Who now works for the Eagles.

John Dorsey, who spent this past year as a consultant in the Eagles’ scouting department, was general manager of the Chiefs from 2013 through 2016 and the Browns from 2017 through 2019.

He delivered both franchises a number of the star players that helped them reach the AFC conference semifinal round.

And then they both fired him.

Dorsey, 60, spent six years in the 1980s as a linebacker with the Packers before going into scouting under legendary Packers GM Ron Wolf in 1991.

It was in Green Bay where Dorsey first met Andy Reid, who joined Mike Holmgren’s staff in 1992. Reid and Dorsey were together for seven years until Holmgren and Dorsey left for Seattle in 1999 and Reid became head coach of the Eagles.

Dorsey returned to Green Bay in 2000, but when the Chiefs fired both head coach Romeo Crennel and general manager Scott Pioli after the 2012 season, it opened up the door for Reid and Dorsey to reunite in Kansas City.

Dorsey spent four years as the Chiefs’ general manager, a period where the Chiefs went 43-21 and reached the playoffs three times.

Although he stocked the Chiefs’ roster with tons of talent, he was fired in the spring of 2017 for reasons that have never been made public and soon hired as GM of the Browns.

Why did the Chiefs fire Dorsey?

“I’m friends with John,” Reid said in a 2018 story in the Canton (Ohio) Repository newspaper before the Browns faced the Chiefs. “I'll leave it at that. Things happen.”

In Cleveland, Dorsey again found a number of players who helped the Browns turn things around under Kevin Stefanski, a one-time Eagles coaching intern at Lehigh.

And again he was fired.

“John is a great man -- a great family man -- and a really good personnel man,” Stefanski said of Dorsey in an interview this week with the Associated Press. “Just look at both of our teams. A lot of players on this team I recognize are guys John brought in, so I think very highly of him." With Dorsey out of work, Howie Roseman invited him to spend the year as a consultant with the Eagles, scouting college and pro players and adding a new voice to the Eagles’ front office.

“John is a great football mind,” Reid said of Dorsey last year before the Super Bowl. “He knows talent. He brought in a lot of guys who maybe weren’t big names, but he saw something in them and they turned out to be good for us. He’s old-school football. He loves the game. That’s pretty obvious. He’s a gritty guy. I came to appreciate that about him. He would bring you a tough football player. Sometimes that’s a little harder to find these days.”

Although Reid has credited current Chiefs GM Brett Veach - who was also with him in Philly - as the guy who discovered Patrick Mahomes, he was drafted on Dorsey’s watch, and Dorsey was involved at least to some extent.

Here’s a look at the top five players on the Chiefs and Browns that Dorsey drafted:

Chiefs

Pat Mahomes

Tyreek Hill

Travis Kelce

Eric Fisher

Chris Jones

Browns

Baker Mayfield

Nick Chubb

Denzel Ward

Chad Thomas

Sheldrick Redwine

“I knew he would bring in some talented football players (in Cleveland), because that’s what he’s really good at,” Reid said. “I thought he could get that place turned around. He brought in a massive amount of talent. He’s done a nice job setting the foundation.”

There were seven GM openings in the NFL this offseason – Texans, Lions, Falcons, Panthers, Jaguars, Broncos and Washington. Four have been filled, and Dorsey has not been mentioned as a candidate for any of the other jobs.

So it doesn’t look like he’s going to get another GM job at this point.

Jeff Lurie was asked Monday about Dorsey and whether he might become a full-time member of the scouting staff here.

Instead of answering specifically about Dorsey, Lurie was vague and spoke of a number of people in the scouting staff, saying, “All the people we have … are very capable people.”

But considering Dorsey’s track record and considering the Eagles’ recent track record, it seems like a no-brainer for the Eagles to keep Dorsey around.

All you have to do to understand why is watch the Chiefs-Browns game.