Blockbuster Trade

Unsympathetic

This is really Stafford and freedom from Goff's contract in exchange for 3 picks

SdBacker80

Freedom from a contract??? 22M dead cap hit this year for the Rams

The Gipper

@dutch-oven said:

Let's see if we can get a third thread on this....

Merge them.

nickers

Wow Jared Goff is probably pissing himself right about now... Holy shizzles!!!... I wouldve kept Goff... Stafford has maybe what 2 years left?

The Gipper

@nickers said:

Wow Jared Goff is probably pissing himself right about now... Holy shizzles!!!... I wouldve kept Goff... Stafford has maybe what 2 years left?

Well...if he can hang around as long as BR/Eli/Rivers...that would make 5-6 more years. If he goes to 40, like Brees/Brady...it would give him 7+

Canton Mike

@dutch-oven said:

According to Adam Schefter the LA Rams have traded Jared Goff, two future first round picks, and a future third round pick to the Detroit Lions for Matthew Stafford.

Holy cannoli. I can't imagine what LA would have given up for DeShaun Watson.

Yeah, now Watson may be stuck in Texas.

Mike

TexasAg1969

@sdbacker80 said:

Yeah I’m not getting this one...Stafford admittedly a little better than Goff. He’s 33- he’s played a lot football that “little better” could close fast in the other direction.

Throw in not 1....but 2 first round picks.

Strange one

More than strange. Just plain ridiculous and getting close to Mike Ditka territory.

https://sports.nbcsports.com/2019/04/15/revisiting-saints-trading-entire-draft-for-ricky-williams-and-the-deals-that-almost-happened/

Orion

Unbelievable.

Dutch Oven

John Dorsey is going to have fun in the next few drafts in Detroit.

Houston keeps telling the world (and DeShaun Watson) that they have no interest in trading their franchise QB.

Unsympathetic

@sdbacker80 said:

Freedom from a contract??? 22M dead cap hit this year for the Rams

Yes, his entire contract. They pay 22M to get out of their obligation for 129M over the next four years.

As Pellisero says, rams eat the 22 and lions are on the hook for 107. Maths!

@dutch-oven said:

John Dorsey is going to have fun in the next few drafts in Detroit

Failing upwards in the NFL never made any sense. If you're looking for a new team to take the terrible side of a trade and have an abysmal locker room.. Detroit!

SdBacker80 · Jan 30, 2021 1.5K 49View on X

@unsympathetic said:

Yes, his entire contract. They pay 22M to get out of their obligation for 129M over the next four years.

As Pellisaro says, rams eat the 22 and lions are on the hook for 107. Maths!

how’s this “maths”....
Goff had a $34M cap number in 2021

By trading Goff Rams carry $22M in dead cap for Goff and have a $20M cap number for Stafford.

So the Rams are paying $8M more in cap space for the starting QB position in 2021.

I see posters talking about 5,6,7 Type years left with Stafford- I think Snead gets into another bad marriage and extends Stafford soon- and I certainly don’t think Stafford takes less when that happens. Unless the Rams just traded their future and all their picks for a two year rental. Unlikely. Just my 2 cents and my maths

tiamat63

Basically paying for long term draft capital.

I'd fully expect the Lions to get back to fundamentals now. Run the rock, play improved defense, try to limit Goff's exposure (in a sense). Get back to creating a competitive type of culture within the organization. Which sucks because the Lions have Kenny Golladay and it's fun seeing him get vertical.

NFCN is going to be in strange times the next couple years. Rogers is on the back 9 and looking at the club-house, Kirk is Kirk, Chi-town has zero idea what their QB situation will be like. But now the Lions have serious draft assets that nobody else in the division can match the next few years.

calfoxwc

very strange trade. Goff goes to Detroit, with the #12 offensive line, from the Rams with the PFF ratings #3 offensive line.

Two freaking draft first round picks? Stranger still, the rams are in bad negative cap space terrority, and Detroit is barely above their limit.......

very, very strange. BTW, PFF offensive line ratings - Cleveland Browns #1 !

cap space:

https://overthecap.com/salary-cap-space/

Dutch Oven · Jan 30, 2021 1.5K 49View on X

@unsympathetic said:

Failing upwards in the NFL never made any sense. If you're looking for a new team to take the terrible side of a trade and have an abysmal locker room.. Detroit!

Detroit got the terrible side of that trade? Two firsts, a third and Jared Goff is terrible?

Yeah, that's an interesting take.

Dutch Oven

@tiamat63 said:

Basically paying for long term draft capital.

I'd fully expect the Lions to get back to fundamentals now. Run the rock, play improved defense, try to limit Goff's exposure (in a sense). Get back to creating a competitive type of culture within the organization. Which sucks because the Lions have Kenny Golladay and it's fun seeing him get vertical.

NFCN is going to be in strange times the next couple years. Rogers is on the back 9 and looking at the club-house, Kirk is Kirk, Chi-town has zero idea what their QB situation will be like. But now the Lions have serious draft assets that nobody else in the division can match the next few years.

And the Browns play the NFC North next season....

The Gipper

@dutch-oven said:

Detroit got the terrible side of that trade? Two firsts, a third and Jared Goff is terrible?

Yeah, that's an interesting take.

Right on, IMO. While I do believe Stafford is better than Goff...he is also older, and he certainly is NOT 2 extra first round picks better.

Unsympathetic

@dutch-oven said:

Detroit got the terrible side of that trade? Two firsts, a third and Jared Goff is terrible?

Yeah, that's an interesting take.

That original comment and link is about Dorsey being terrible.. He'll take good players with the first round picks but fail greatly at everything else

Dutch Oven

@unsympathetic said:

That original comment and link is about Dorsey being terrible.. He'll take good players with the first round picks but fail greatly at everything else

He nabbed three cornerstones in his first draft for the Browns with three of his four top picks, (and Austin Corbett I believe has started every since leaving the Browns) but the rest of the draft didn't amount to much. His second draft for the Browns looks horrible.

I'd have to look at his drafts in Kansas City.

I was petrified at the idea of him and the Browns salary cap longterm, so that problem was solved when he was fired.

D Bone

When I heard about the trade, I immediately thought it was a player for player swap.... then came news of the 2 first round picks, and finally the third rounder just to rub some acid into the cut. What a completely inept look for the Rams, and I can see the Wonder Boy being gone well before the ball drops on 2022.

I do think Stafford will be better than Goff in the short term, but the price will be the future of the franchise.

tiamat63

To the Rams credit, they've drafted the following players between the 2nd and 6th rounds in the last 4 years.

- Gerald Everett

- Cooper Cupp

- John Johnson

- John Franklin Meyers

- Sebastian Joseph

- Taylor Rapp

- Darrell Henderson

- Bobby Evans

- Gregg Gaines

- David Edwards

- Cam Akers

- Van Jefferson

- Terrell Lewis

- Jordan Fuller

So in a way, I understand their front office having a sense of confidence to continue bringing in talent without 1st round picks. Since moving to L.A. that's a pretty absurd hit rate in mid to late round picks that are 1st - with the team and 2nd - producing if not outright starting.

Again, credit where it's due. They've done a great job turning over rocks and finding quality NFL players all throughout the draft.