Mayfield Contract Situation
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The Josh Allen bar has been set. Does Baker deserve more or less? Yes or no.
Will Baker demand more? Yes or no.
In most cases, a simple yes or no answer to a complex question gets you to your starting point.
My answers are No and Yes.
The answers aren't a prediction or about what is going to happen. Be honest.
If you look at the numbers baker deserves more. He's better in every category including rushing yards which blew my mind
If you look at the numbers baker deserves more. He's better in every category including rushing yards which blew my mind
Baker is protected far more than josh allen. Allen had 0 running game baker has a better OL , TE , and RB ,WR are a tie.
Could baker carry the team like josh allen did i dont think so. The problem with baker everything has to be right for it to work he isn't overcoming anything. if you have to pay him 250-300 Mil. He is going to have to overcome some personnel issues moving forward. can he ? idk
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If you look at the numbers baker deserves more. He's better in every category including rushing yards which blew my mind
Baker is protected far more than josh allen. Allen had 0 running game baker has a better OL , TE , and RB ,WR are a tie.
Could baker carry the team like josh allen did i dont think so. The problem with baker everything has to be right for it to work he isn't overcoming anything. if you have to pay him 250-300 Mil. He is going to have to overcome some personnel issues moving forward. can he ? idk
Baker is protected far more than josh allen. Allen had 0 running game baker has a better OL , TE , and RB ,WR are a tie.
Could baker carry the team like josh allen did i dont think so. The problem with baker everything has to be right for it to work he isn't overcoming anything. if you have to pay him 250-300 Mil. He is going to have to overcome some personnel issues moving forward. can he ? idk
Well, Baker and the offense had the number 16 defense backing them up. Josh Allen and the Bill's offense had the #4 defense backing them up. They both got to the playoffs, and that is with OBJ hurt for the year. Baker has proven himself to be the real deal. He doesn't run like Mahomes or Allen, but they both have been injured running, too.
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If you look at the numbers baker deserves more. He's better in every category including rushing yards which blew my mind
Baker is protected far more than josh allen. Allen had 0 running game baker has a better OL , TE , and RB ,WR are a tie.
Could baker carry the team like josh allen did i dont think so. The problem with baker everything has to be right for it to work he isn't overcoming anything. if you have to pay him 250-300 Mil. He is going to have to overcome some personnel issues moving forward. can he ? idk
Baker is protected far more than josh allen. Allen had 0 running game baker has a better OL , TE , and RB ,WR are a tie.
Could baker carry the team like josh allen did i dont think so. The problem with baker everything has to be right for it to work he isn't overcoming anything. if you have to pay him 250-300 Mil. He is going to have to overcome some personnel issues moving forward. can he ? idk
Well Josh has continuity the same coach and coordinators the past three years.
He also lead the league in dropped INTs 21. So if he’s a little unlucky this season you could see a drop in his production.
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BTW, Patrick Mahomes had a 6.3 rating with NFL.Com. Josh Allen had a 6.4.
https://www.nfl.com/prospects/patrick-mahomes/32004d41-4840-1939-e4c1-bb89191b4e71
https://www.nfl.com/prospects/josh-allen/3200414c-4c52-9264-bedc-c4ddaf201fe7
Guess what grade they gave Baker Mayfield?
https://www.nfl.com/prospects/baker-mayfield/32004d41-5948-3453-e6ac-1ecff99fdcf6
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BTW, Patrick Mahomes had a 6.3 rating with NFL.Com. Josh Allen had a 6.4.
https://www.nfl.com/prospects/patrick-mahomes/32004d41-4840-1939-e4c1-bb89191b4e71
https://www.nfl.com/prospects/josh-allen/3200414c-4c52-9264-bedc-c4ddaf201fe7
Guess what grade they gave Baker Mayfield?
https://www.nfl.com/prospects/baker-mayfield/32004d41-5948-3453-e6ac-1ecff99fdcf6
BTW, Patrick Mahomes had a 6.3 rating with NFL.Com. Josh Allen had a 6.4.
https://www.nfl.com/prospects/patrick-mahomes/32004d41-4840-1939-e4c1-bb89191b4e71
https://www.nfl.com/prospects/josh-allen/3200414c-4c52-9264-bedc-c4ddaf201fe7
Guess what grade they gave Baker Mayfield?
https://www.nfl.com/prospects/baker-mayfield/32004d41-5948-3453-e6ac-1ecff99fdcf6
why does that matter?
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BTW, Patrick Mahomes had a 6.3 rating with NFL.Com. Josh Allen had a 6.4.
https://www.nfl.com/prospects/patrick-mahomes/32004d41-4840-1939-e4c1-bb89191b4e71
https://www.nfl.com/prospects/josh-allen/3200414c-4c52-9264-bedc-c4ddaf201fe7
Guess what grade they gave Baker Mayfield?
https://www.nfl.com/prospects/baker-mayfield/32004d41-5948-3453-e6ac-1ecff99fdcf6
why does that matter?
why does that matter?
Probably only in that it isn't fair to judge
Baker based solely on the criteria you mentioned. -
Baker is protected far more than josh allen. Allen had 0 running game baker has a better OL , TE , and RB ,WR are a tie.
Could baker carry the team like josh allen did i dont think so. The problem with baker everything has to be right for it to work he isn't overcoming anything. if you have to pay him 250-300 Mil. He is going to have to overcome some personnel issues moving forward. can he ? idk
Well, Baker and the offense had the number 16 defense backing them up. Josh Allen and the Bill's offense had the #4 defense backing them up. They both got to the playoffs, and that is with OBJ hurt for the year. Baker has proven himself to be the real deal. He doesn't run like Mahomes or Allen, but they both have been injured running, too.
Well, Baker and the offense had the number 16 defense backing them up. Josh Allen and the Bill's offense had the #4 defense backing them up. They both got to the playoffs, and that is with OBJ hurt for the year. Baker has proven himself to be the real deal. He doesn't run like Mahomes or Allen, but they both have been injured running, too.
Then factually speaking.. One could make the case Baker Mayfield did more with less..
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Well, Baker and the offense had the number 16 defense backing them up. Josh Allen and the Bill's offense had the #4 defense backing them up. They both got to the playoffs, and that is with OBJ hurt for the year. Baker has proven himself to be the real deal. He doesn't run like Mahomes or Allen, but they both have been injured running, too.
Then factually speaking.. One could make the case Baker Mayfield did more with less..
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Baker is protected far more than josh allen. Allen had 0 running game baker has a better OL , TE , and RB ,WR are a tie.
Could baker carry the team like josh allen did i dont think so. The problem with baker everything has to be right for it to work he isn't overcoming anything. if you have to pay him 250-300 Mil. He is going to have to overcome some personnel issues moving forward. can he ? idk
Well, Baker and the offense had the number 16 defense backing them up. Josh Allen and the Bill's offense had the #4 defense backing them up. They both got to the playoffs, and that is with OBJ hurt for the year. Baker has proven himself to be the real deal. He doesn't run like Mahomes or Allen, but they both have been injured running, too.
Well, Baker and the offense had the number 16 defense backing them up. Josh Allen and the Bill's offense had the #4 defense backing them up. They both got to the playoffs, and that is with OBJ hurt for the year. Baker has proven himself to be the real deal. He doesn't run like Mahomes or Allen, but they both have been injured running, too.
One of the things I most look forward to is the improvement from that #16 since we concentrated on O the first year and on D this year. Get into the top 10 and maintain that O, this could be one great year with the pressure off Baker & company to score every possession like this past year.
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Well, Baker and the offense had the number 16 defense backing them up. Josh Allen and the Bill's offense had the #4 defense backing them up. They both got to the playoffs, and that is with OBJ hurt for the year. Baker has proven himself to be the real deal. He doesn't run like Mahomes or Allen, but they both have been injured running, too.
One of the things I most look forward to is the improvement from that #16 since we concentrated on O the first year and on D this year. Get into the top 10 and maintain that O, this could be one great year with the pressure off Baker & company to score every possession like this past year.
the improvement from that #16
Here's hoping the Takk situation turns out more purposefully than gramma buying a lottery ticket and losing it between the car seats on the way home.
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From Yahoo sports........ The present and future of runaway sports payrolls ? When will it end or will it ?
To pay or not to pay?
(Nick Cammett/Diamond Images via Getty Images)
By Jay Hart
A little over a year ago, Patrick Mahomes signed a monster 10-year contract worth up to $503 million. Last week, Josh Allen got his own monster deal that, while not $503 million, could actually pave the way for an even bigger haul.
That’s sort of how it is with QB contracts: QB1 signs a deal, QB2 signs a bigger deal, QB3 signs an even bigger deal and so on. It hasn’t mattered where the talent level lies, just who’s up next.
This brings us to who is next: Baker Mayfield; Lamar Jackson; and, soon, Kyler Murray.
They’re all going to get paid. The question then becomes: Are they worth the salary-cap eating deals that will begin to strap the Kansas City Chiefs and Buffalo Bills over the next couple seasons?
Take the Chiefs. This season they’ll allocate just 5.5% of cap space on the quarterback position. Next season, that jumps to 17.5%, the season after that nearly 20%.
Mahomes is special, but is even he special enough to make up for the loss of talent the Chiefs will undoubtedly experience due to cap restrictions?
Now apply that question to Jackson, Mayfield and Murray, who, if the progression of quarterback salaries hold, will eat up even more cap space than Mahomes.
The logic stands that you pay your QB because it’s either that or start over, and who wants to start over?
But what if the alternative to starting over is paying for a quarterback who sometimes gets you to the playoffs but never any further? Because that’s what’s happening.
Since 2010, the only quarterbacks in the top 10 in salary to even make a Super Bowl are Tom Brady, Matt Ryan, Eli Manning and Peyton Manning.
Brady, of course, has been to six Super Bowls since 2010, but only twice did he rank in the top 10 in salary … which is telling.
To pay or not to pay is exactly the question the Cowboys wrestled with when it came to Dak Prescott. The jury is still out on this one, but so far what they’ve paid for is +3000 vs. +8000 in the futures odds.
This is the decision the Ravens, Browns and Cardinals are going to have to make very soon. The smart money is on them paying. The smarter money is on that not paying off.
GO BUCKEYES, BROWNS, INDIANS, CAVS, YSU, NAVY and yes I like ND! -
The Josh Allen bar has been set. Does Baker deserve more or less? Yes or no.
Will Baker demand more? Yes or no.
In most cases, a simple yes or no answer to a complex question gets you to your starting point.
My answers are No and Yes.
The answers aren't a prediction or about what is going to happen. Be honest.
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From Yahoo sports........ The present and future of runaway sports payrolls ? When will it end or will it ?
To pay or not to pay?
(Nick Cammett/Diamond Images via Getty Images)
By Jay Hart
A little over a year ago, Patrick Mahomes signed a monster 10-year contract worth up to $503 million. Last week, Josh Allen got his own monster deal that, while not $503 million, could actually pave the way for an even bigger haul.
That’s sort of how it is with QB contracts: QB1 signs a deal, QB2 signs a bigger deal, QB3 signs an even bigger deal and so on. It hasn’t mattered where the talent level lies, just who’s up next.
This brings us to who is next: Baker Mayfield; Lamar Jackson; and, soon, Kyler Murray.
They’re all going to get paid. The question then becomes: Are they worth the salary-cap eating deals that will begin to strap the Kansas City Chiefs and Buffalo Bills over the next couple seasons?
Take the Chiefs. This season they’ll allocate just 5.5% of cap space on the quarterback position. Next season, that jumps to 17.5%, the season after that nearly 20%.
Mahomes is special, but is even he special enough to make up for the loss of talent the Chiefs will undoubtedly experience due to cap restrictions?
Now apply that question to Jackson, Mayfield and Murray, who, if the progression of quarterback salaries hold, will eat up even more cap space than Mahomes.
The logic stands that you pay your QB because it’s either that or start over, and who wants to start over?
But what if the alternative to starting over is paying for a quarterback who sometimes gets you to the playoffs but never any further? Because that’s what’s happening.
Since 2010, the only quarterbacks in the top 10 in salary to even make a Super Bowl are Tom Brady, Matt Ryan, Eli Manning and Peyton Manning.
Brady, of course, has been to six Super Bowls since 2010, but only twice did he rank in the top 10 in salary … which is telling.
To pay or not to pay is exactly the question the Cowboys wrestled with when it came to Dak Prescott. The jury is still out on this one, but so far what they’ve paid for is +3000 vs. +8000 in the futures odds.
This is the decision the Ravens, Browns and Cardinals are going to have to make very soon. The smart money is on them paying. The smarter money is on that not paying off.
But what if the alternative to starting over is paying for a quarterback who sometimes gets you to the playoffs but never any further? Because that’s what’s happening.
Since 2010, the only quarterbacks in the top 10 in salary to even make a Super Bowl are Tom Brady, Matt Ryan, Eli Manning and Peyton Manning.
Brady, of course, has been to six Super Bowls since 2010, but only twice did he rank in the top 10 in salary … which is telling.
To pay or not to pay is exactly the question the Cowboys wrestled with when it came to Dak Prescott. The jury is still out on this one, but so far what they’ve paid for is +3000 vs. +8000 in the futures odds.
This is the decision the Ravens, Browns and Cardinals are going to have to make very soon. The smart money is on them paying. The smarter money is on that not paying off.
GO, DePo, GO!
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The Josh Allen bar has been set. Does Baker deserve more or less? Yes or no.
More or less? that isn't a yes or no answer. lol It depends on the team. I think Baker will get a huge contract - but he also knows if he prices his contract too high to keep his offensive line, it's counter-productive.
Will Baker demand more? Yes or no.
No.
In most cases, a simple yes or no answer to a complex question gets you to your starting point.
My answers are No and Yes.
The answers aren't a prediction or about what is going to happen. Be honest.
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starts at the top, of course, with Baker Mayfield, who is entering his fourth NFL season. He's appeared in 46 games and has started 45 in a row. He's already sixth in franchise history with 11,115 passing yards, fourth with 932 completions and fifth with 75 touchdowns. All three totals are Browns records for a player in his first three seasons.
Pasted from Browns.com. I'm not going to say how much Baker should be paid or how much he’s worth, but this little bit right here says so much. Living through 1,296 starting QBs in 20 years to now having Baker is pretty damn awesome to me
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