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  • Brissett is very average... LOL...

    @nickers said:

    Brissett is very average... LOL...

    Probably......but with this roster...will he do worse than Baker?

  • @canton-dawg said:

    Mayfield has taken his last snap as a Brown, that you can bank on.

    Most likely that's true. If not... of course that means the maggots in the front office or caught between a rock and a hard place. If he does start for six games? The choice is either sandbag him and make him look bad or do their best to succeed. Choice number one no trade, nothing close. Eat the 19 million. Number to optimize for his skill-set and now that he's healthy let's say he goes 6 and 0. Front office looks like the bunch of dicks they are still eat the 19 million. But at least there's a chance someone will offer you a trade. But on the face shaving side they will have to admit but it wasn't the quarterback holding the team back and they could have gone forward with plenty more cap space and plenty more top pics.

    Other option of sitting him at number three behind Smollett? That has the potential to be a circus. Unless sweat balls out. Which is another circus.

    We shall see

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    Most likely that's true. If not... of course that means the maggots in the front office or caught between a rock and a hard place. If he does start for six games? The choice is either sandbag him and make him look bad or do their best to succeed. Choice number one no trade, nothing close. Eat the 19 million. Number to optimize for his skill-set and now that he's healthy let's say he goes 6 and 0. Front office looks like the bunch of dicks they are still eat the 19 million. But at least there's a chance someone will offer you a trade. But on the face shaving side they will have to admit but it wasn't the quarterback holding the team back and they could have gone forward with plenty more cap space and plenty more top pics.

    Other option of sitting him at number three behind Smollett? That has the potential to be a circus. Unless sweat balls out. Which is another circus.

    We shall see

    WSS

    No rock and a hard place. It would take a very mature and professional person to play knowing the other guy is under suspension and as soon as it's over he will start and you will be traded. 

    Baker is low on maturity and professionalism-and the FO knows this. Trade him....and what you get, you get, what you have to pay, you have to pay....and move on.

  • @westside-steve said:

    Most likely that's true. If not... of course that means the maggots in the front office or caught between a rock and a hard place. If he does start for six games? The choice is either sandbag him and make him look bad or do their best to succeed. Choice number one no trade, nothing close. Eat the 19 million. Number to optimize for his skill-set and now that he's healthy let's say he goes 6 and 0. Front office looks like the bunch of dicks they are still eat the 19 million. But at least there's a chance someone will offer you a trade. But on the face shaving side they will have to admit but it wasn't the quarterback holding the team back and they could have gone forward with plenty more cap space and plenty more top pics.

    Other option of sitting him at number three behind Smollett? That has the potential to be a circus. Unless sweat balls out. Which is another circus.

    We shall see

    WSS

    No rock and a hard place. It would take a very mature and professional person to play knowing the other guy is under suspension and as soon as it's over he will start and you will be traded. 

    Baker is low on maturity and professionalism-and the FO knows this. Trade him....and what you get, you get, what you have to pay, you have to pay....and move on.

    @laiccm said:

    No rock and a hard place. It would take a very mature and professional person to play knowing the other guy is under suspension and as soon as it's over he will start and you will be traded. 

    Baker is low on maturity and professionalism-and the FO knows this. Trade him....and what you get, you get, what you have to pay, you have to pay....and move on.

    Once again maturity TV commercials whatever bulshit you guys pull out of your ass to justify your hatred means absolutely nothing.

    You're just parroting the words you heard some jack off radio guy spew.

    Especially if you are licking the butt of DeShaun Watson

    WSS

  • @laiccm said:

    No rock and a hard place. It would take a very mature and professional person to play knowing the other guy is under suspension and as soon as it's over he will start and you will be traded. 

    Baker is low on maturity and professionalism-and the FO knows this. Trade him....and what you get, you get, what you have to pay, you have to pay....and move on.

    Once again maturity TV commercials whatever bulshit you guys pull out of your ass to justify your hatred means absolutely nothing.

    You're just parroting the words you heard some jack off radio guy spew.

    Especially if you are licking the butt of DeShaun Watson

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    Once again maturity TV commercials whatever bulshit you guys pull out of your ass to justify your hatred means absolutely nothing.

    You're just parroting the words you heard some jack off radio guy spew.

    Especially if you are licking the butt of DeShaun Watson

    WSS

    No parroting needed-just pay attention.  Attacking medical staff, former coaches, local journalists, tv talking heads..etc...heck...the moron could've had a job after Watson turned the Browns down but he demanded a trade because of his feelings getting hurt. No one wants your guy for even half the price of an elite QB------ so it matters. His career is in danger.......you can go root for his mediocre ass at the USFL next year tho.....lol!!

  • @nickers said:

    Brissett is very average... LOL...

    Probably......but with this roster...will he do worse than Baker?

    @laiccm said:

    Probably......but with this roster...will he do worse than Baker?

    Yes... Baker is a much better QB

  • @laiccm said:

    Probably......but with this roster...will he do worse than Baker?

    Yes... Baker is a much better QB

    @nickers said:

    Yes... Baker is a much better QB

    ok. I think Baker is better as well...but I don't think by that much. 13-20 mill a year more? Brisset is a little under 5 mill

  • If not most probably a great many of the world's top quarterbacks have been what you would call  immature. Personally I don't want a guy that hangs his head and accept the kind of insulting horseshit the front office said his way. Again not the least of which your boy Watson. The reason he doesn't do commercials is probably the whorehouses to advertise on television.

    And just for the record your boy got shitcan from whatever endorsements he was involved in.

    WSS

  • If not most probably a great many of the world's top quarterbacks have been what you would call  immature. Personally I don't want a guy that hangs his head and accept the kind of insulting horseshit the front office said his way. Again not the least of which your boy Watson. The reason he doesn't do commercials is probably the whorehouses to advertise on television.

    And just for the record your boy got shitcan from whatever endorsements he was involved in.

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    If not most probably a great many of the world's top quarterbacks have been what you would call  immature. Personally I don't want a guy that hangs his head and accept the kind of insulting horseshit the front office said his way. Again not the least of which your boy Watson. The reason he doesn't do commercials is probably the whorehouses to advertise on television.

    And just for the record your boy got shitcan from whatever endorsements he was involved in.

    WSS

    Doesn't matter....his talent outweighs his issues. That's why teams lined up after him.

    Baker's talent doesn't....thus no one wants him.

    bottomline

  • @westside-steve said:

    If not most probably a great many of the world's top quarterbacks have been what you would call  immature. Personally I don't want a guy that hangs his head and accept the kind of insulting horseshit the front office said his way. Again not the least of which your boy Watson. The reason he doesn't do commercials is probably the whorehouses to advertise on television.

    And just for the record your boy got shitcan from whatever endorsements he was involved in.

    WSS

    Doesn't matter....his talent outweighs his issues. That's why teams lined up after him.

    Baker's talent doesn't....thus no one wants him.

    bottomline

    @laiccm said:

    Doesn't matter....his talent outweighs his issues. That's why teams lined up after him.

    Baker's talent doesn't....thus no one wants him.

    bottomline

    Teams might want Mayfield but at a greatly reduced price as a starter  -or-  even a backup.   I guess we'll have to wait and see......the 2022 draft is only a few weeks away. 

    Any chance that the former #1 pick can't come to terms and sits out the season  ?     Or the quarterback hungry NFL finally come up with a deal for Mayfield and the BROWNS  ?

  • If not most probably a great many of the world's top quarterbacks have been what you would call  immature. Personally I don't want a guy that hangs his head and accept the kind of insulting horseshit the front office said his way. Again not the least of which your boy Watson. The reason he doesn't do commercials is probably the whorehouses to advertise on television.

    And just for the record your boy got shitcan from whatever endorsements he was involved in.

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    If not most probably a great many of the world's top quarterbacks have been what you would call  immature. Personally I don't want a guy that hangs his head and accept the kind of insulting horseshit the front office said his way. Again not the least of which your boy Watson. The reason he doesn't do commercials is probably the whorehouses to advertise on television.

    And just for the record your boy got shitcan from whatever endorsements he was involved in.

    WSS

    Kenny Stabler and Jim McMahon?.. I mean hell Stabler drank his ass off and smoked dope lol

  • @laiccm said:

    Doesn't matter....his talent outweighs his issues. That's why teams lined up after him.

    Baker's talent doesn't....thus no one wants him.

    bottomline

    Teams might want Mayfield but at a greatly reduced price as a starter  -or-  even a backup.   I guess we'll have to wait and see......the 2022 draft is only a few weeks away. 

    Any chance that the former #1 pick can't come to terms and sits out the season  ?     Or the quarterback hungry NFL finally come up with a deal for Mayfield and the BROWNS  ?

    @mjp28 said:

    Teams might want Mayfield but at a greatly reduced price as a starter  -or-  even a backup.   I guess we'll have to wait and see......the 2022 draft is only a few weeks away. 

    Any chance that the former #1 pick can't come to terms and sits out the season  ?     Or the quarterback hungry NFL finally come up with a deal for Mayfield and the BROWNS  ?

    Very good analysis

  • @westside-steve said:

    If not most probably a great many of the world's top quarterbacks have been what you would call  immature. Personally I don't want a guy that hangs his head and accept the kind of insulting horseshit the front office said his way. Again not the least of which your boy Watson. The reason he doesn't do commercials is probably the whorehouses to advertise on television.

    And just for the record your boy got shitcan from whatever endorsements he was involved in.

    WSS

    Doesn't matter....his talent outweighs his issues. That's why teams lined up after him.

    Baker's talent doesn't....thus no one wants him.

    bottomline

    @laiccm said:

    Doesn't matter....his talent outweighs his issues. That's why teams lined up after him.

    Baker's talent doesn't....thus no one wants him.

    bottomline

    This is very true, unfortunately. Just like Ben. 

  • @canton-dawg said:

    Mayfield has taken his last snap as a Brown, that you can bank on.

    Most likely that's true. If not... of course that means the maggots in the front office or caught between a rock and a hard place. If he does start for six games? The choice is either sandbag him and make him look bad or do their best to succeed. Choice number one no trade, nothing close. Eat the 19 million. Number to optimize for his skill-set and now that he's healthy let's say he goes 6 and 0. Front office looks like the bunch of dicks they are still eat the 19 million. But at least there's a chance someone will offer you a trade. But on the face shaving side they will have to admit but it wasn't the quarterback holding the team back and they could have gone forward with plenty more cap space and plenty more top pics.

    Other option of sitting him at number three behind Smollett? That has the potential to be a circus. Unless sweat balls out. Which is another circus.

    We shall see

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    Most likely that's true. If not... of course that means the maggots in the front office or caught between a rock and a hard place. If he does start for six games? The choice is either sandbag him and make him look bad or do their best to succeed. Choice number one no trade, nothing close. Eat the 19 million. Number to optimize for his skill-set and now that he's healthy let's say he goes 6 and 0. Front office looks like the bunch of dicks they are still eat the 19 million. But at least there's a chance someone will offer you a trade. But on the face shaving side they will have to admit but it wasn't the quarterback holding the team back and they could have gone forward with plenty more cap space and plenty more top pics.

    Other option of sitting him at number three behind Smollett? That has the potential to be a circus. Unless sweat balls out. Which is another circus.

    We shall see

    WSS

    The biggest reason Baker hasn’t made it to another team, is simply the other QB needy teams have the Browns over a barrel.

    They’re stuck with a guaranteed contract and everyone knows it.

    They are waiting for the Browns to sweeten the deal with a buyout or draft pick or both.

  • Colt McCoy is just as good as Baker.  Average.

  • Colt McCoy is just as good as Baker.  Average.

    @skippinturtles said:

    Colt McCoy is just as good as Baker.  Average.

    Colt McCoy has a record of 23 - 29

    Baker Mayfield has a record of 30 - 30

    Deshaun Watson has a record of 28 - 26

    I would say all 3 are pedestrian numbers.

  • Colt McCoy is just as good as Baker.  Average.

    @skippinturtles said:

    Colt McCoy is just as good as Baker.  Average.

    Total bullshit!

  • Manziel 3rd string would be a party.  Trailer Park Boys life.  Randers.

  • @skippinturtles said:

    Colt McCoy is just as good as Baker.  Average.

    Colt McCoy has a record of 23 - 29

    Baker Mayfield has a record of 30 - 30

    Deshaun Watson has a record of 28 - 26

    I would say all 3 are pedestrian numbers.

    @canton-dawg said:

    Colt McCoy has a record of 23 - 29

    Baker Mayfield has a record of 30 - 30

    Deshaun Watson has a record of 28 - 26

    I would say all 3 are pedestrian numbers.

    Everyone here has watched almost every game.....DW excused. on the watched part.

    Was it Bill Parcells that said your record says who you are,  or something like that  ?

    What do you think ?  Personally I believe Mayfield was better than McCoy no doubt   -but-  neither turned out to be that franchise quarterback that the BROWNS were looking for. 

    Now the BROWNS have bet the ranch on DW to have his shot at it.  Good luck and I read our BROWNS are the AFCN favorites right now  

    GO BROWNS,  just win baby v3.0 or is it v4.0  I've lost count. 

  • @canton-dawg said:

    Colt McCoy has a record of 23 - 29

    Baker Mayfield has a record of 30 - 30

    Deshaun Watson has a record of 28 - 26

    I would say all 3 are pedestrian numbers.

    Everyone here has watched almost every game.....DW excused. on the watched part.

    Was it Bill Parcells that said your record says who you are,  or something like that  ?

    What do you think ?  Personally I believe Mayfield was better than McCoy no doubt   -but-  neither turned out to be that franchise quarterback that the BROWNS were looking for. 

    Now the BROWNS have bet the ranch on DW to have his shot at it.  Good luck and I read our BROWNS are the AFCN favorites right now  

    GO BROWNS,  just win baby v3.0 or is it v4.0  I've lost count. 

    @mjp28 said:

    Everyone here has watched almost every game.....DW excused. on the watched part.

    Was it Bill Parcells that said your record says who you are,  or something like that  ?

    What do you think ?  Personally I believe Mayfield was better than McCoy no doubt   -but-  neither turned out to be that franchise quarterback that the BROWNS were looking for. 

    Now the BROWNS have bet the ranch on DW to have his shot at it.  Good luck and I read our BROWNS are the AFCN favorites right now  

    GO BROWNS,  just win baby v3.0 or is it v4.0  I've lost count. 

    For a QB in the league that’s going to earn more money than Rogers and Mahomes, there had better be zero excuses.

    Anything less than a Super Bowl victory will be a major disappointment, and if he fails to deliver DW along with AB needs ran out of town.

  • @mjp28 said:

    Everyone here has watched almost every game.....DW excused. on the watched part.

    Was it Bill Parcells that said your record says who you are,  or something like that  ?

    What do you think ?  Personally I believe Mayfield was better than McCoy no doubt   -but-  neither turned out to be that franchise quarterback that the BROWNS were looking for. 

    Now the BROWNS have bet the ranch on DW to have his shot at it.  Good luck and I read our BROWNS are the AFCN favorites right now  

    GO BROWNS,  just win baby v3.0 or is it v4.0  I've lost count. 

    For a QB in the league that’s going to earn more money than Rogers and Mahomes, there had better be zero excuses.

    Anything less than a Super Bowl victory will be a major disappointment, and if he fails to deliver DW along with AB needs ran out of town.

    @canton-dawg said:

    For a QB in the league that’s going to earn more money than Rogers and Mahomes, there had better be zero excuses.

    Anything less than a Super Bowl victory will be a major disappointment, and if he fails to deliver DW along with AB needs ran out of town.

    By the time 3 years  have gone by Watsons contract will be mid road....as in run out of town for no SB?...that's comedy. We never got there with better teams....what happens if the Browns go to AFC championship games  like Bernie, Mack, Byner, Slaughter, Brennan....etc yet not win? They ain't going nowhere no time soon unless there's a complete implosion...the AFC is the most ridiculous right now and Ive been watching since the 70s.....