Browns sign Rosen
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LOL, I thought you were being funny, Zombo.
No - I was all in on Josh Allen. Flugels and I have laughed about it later on....
Caught hell for it for disagreeing with Hoorta, for one. How dare I disagree with Tour!
They kept bashing Josh Allen, and I kept talking saying Josh Rosen was a very bad choice.
Note: (lol - only since you thought it was me....)
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on 2/28/2018 at 2:40 PM Hoorta said:
1) Exaggerations, or facts Cal? He's the least accurate of the major prospects. Bad footwork. Bad receivers? They can't catch something thrown ten feet over their heads.
2) None of us hate Allen 1\2 as much as you hate Rosen. Not liking him as a prospect is a far cry from "hating" him. How many times do I have to say my QB rankings are 1A Mayfield, 1B Darnold, 3 Rosen, 4 Allen. If I was as big an a-hole as you are about Rosen, I wouldn't even have Allen on my draft board.
3) I haven't seen anyone around here "frantically" trying to convince anyone that we just gotta draft Rosen, master of hyperbole. And we've duly noted his positives, Mr Oblivious. Great Arm, high character......."
Thanks for proving me right Cal.. In case you forgot- I watched at least 6 complete games of Allen's while he was at Wyoming. (reports were he had a 90 yard range with his cannon- though he declined to prove that at his pro day). At the time it didn't matter, because the tape showed he was 10 times less accurate than Baker Mayfield on a bad day.
Josh is probably the one in a thousand quarterbacks who took coaching seriously, changed his mechanics- and improved his accuracy by orders of magnitude.
I don't think anyone disagreed with Tour that Rosen was capable of throwing beautiful spirals. Yeah- Josh's attitude was questioned, and not just by you. But a shitty attitude does not preclude one from being a great NFL quarterback, starting with HOF bound Aaron Rodgers.
I have to admit though I was pretty surprised on how fast Rosen flamed out... But there's dozens of first round quarterback busts in the club. Jamarcus Russell, Joey Harrington, Jeff George, Akili "worm burner" Smith-LOL, and of course are very own Johnny Football, and Brandon We-done.
Thanks for proving me right Cal.. In case you forgot- I watched at least 6 complete games of Allen's while he was at Wyoming. (reports were he had a 90 yard range with his cannon- though he declined to prove that at his pro day). At the time it didn't matter, because the tape showed he was 10 times less accurate than Baker Mayfield on a bad day.
Josh is probably the one in a thousand quarterbacks who took coaching seriously, changed his mechanics- and improved his accuracy by orders of magnitude.
I don't think anyone disagreed with Tour that Rosen was capable of throwing beautiful spirals. Yeah- Josh's attitude was questioned, and not just by you. But a shitty attitude does not preclude one from being a great NFL quarterback, starting with HOF bound Aaron Rodgers.
I have to admit though I was pretty surprised on how fast Rosen flamed out... But there's dozens of first round quarterback busts in the club. Jamarcus Russell, Joey Harrington, Jeff George, Akili "worm burner" Smith-LOL, and of course are very own Johnny Football, and Brandon We-done.
Let cal have his moment hoorta, this is literally the only thing he's ever got right. ?
He'll probably have "I WAS RIGHT ABOUT JOSH ALLEN" on his tombstone.
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Actually a lot of pundits said Rosen had played in a more pro-oriented offense and was probably more ready to step in to an NFL lineup. Keep in mind that he was drafted into probably the worst possible situation. Then he was unceremoniously s*** canned by a coach who wanted to bring in one of his homeboys from his old school.
WSS
Actually a lot of pundits said Rosen had played in a more pro-oriented offense and was probably more ready to step in to an NFL lineup. Keep in mind that he was drafted into probably the worst possible situation. Then he was unceremoniously s*** canned by a coach who wanted to bring in one of his homeboys from his old school.
WSS
ummm no playbook no ota's he is so far behind and i believe it is just a ploy to try and get jimmy g for a low round pick and part of his salary picked up by san fran ala baker
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Actually a lot of pundits said Rosen had played in a more pro-oriented offense and was probably more ready to step in to an NFL lineup. Keep in mind that he was drafted into probably the worst possible situation. Then he was unceremoniously s*** canned by a coach who wanted to bring in one of his homeboys from his old school.
WSS
ummm no playbook no ota's he is so far behind and i believe it is just a ploy to try and get jimmy g for a low round pick and part of his salary picked up by san fran ala baker
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Thanks for proving me right Cal.. In case you forgot- I watched at least 6 complete games of Allen's while he was at Wyoming. (reports were he had a 90 yard range with his cannon- though he declined to prove that at his pro day). At the time it didn't matter, because the tape showed he was 10 times less accurate than Baker Mayfield on a bad day.
Josh is probably the one in a thousand quarterbacks who took coaching seriously, changed his mechanics- and improved his accuracy by orders of magnitude.
I don't think anyone disagreed with Tour that Rosen was capable of throwing beautiful spirals. Yeah- Josh's attitude was questioned, and not just by you. But a shitty attitude does not preclude one from being a great NFL quarterback, starting with HOF bound Aaron Rodgers.
I have to admit though I was pretty surprised on how fast Rosen flamed out... But there's dozens of first round quarterback busts in the club. Jamarcus Russell, Joey Harrington, Jeff George, Akili "worm burner" Smith-LOL, and of course are very own Johnny Football, and Brandon We-done.
Thanks for proving me right again.........
in case you forgot, I questioned rosen on many aspects of his character. He threw a beautiful spiral, ya.
But his love for the game was trash. His ego was off the charts, but in a very bad way - he did NOT love football. He was not a leader. etc etc.
I was all in on Allen going to be a terrific qb in the NFL.
You had rosen rated above Allen - that makes you not right at the time.
It wasn't just me - there were other guys who believed in Allen back then.
Thanks for proving me right again.........
in case you forgot, I questioned rosen on many aspects of his character. He threw a beautiful spiral, ya.
But his love for the game was trash. His ego was off the charts, but in a very bad way - he did NOT love football. He was not a leader. etc etc.
I was all in on Allen going to be a terrific qb in the NFL.
You had rosen rated above Allen - that makes you not right at the time.
It wasn't just me - there were other guys who believed in Allen back then.
Please keep your delusions over on the Political Forum. Blind squirrels occasionally find acorns. What part of my opinion that unless Allen drastically improved his accuracy, (backed up by hours of watching him on tape) that the possibility was very real he was going to be a mega-bust. Or do you fail to comprehend that little factoid? Good For him, Bills Fans worship him. Keep on dredging up the past- hindsight is always 20\20. Too bad you now get a twofer on the Browns, Watson AND the Chosen Rosen? LOL, when does squirrel season start?
PS Cal, you have a fixation to prove yourself "right" regardless of evidence to the contrary.
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I swear that kid kicked our asses every time we played him. (including pre-season)
We'll have a little QB derby in TC.
Is Dobbs still PS eligible?
New PS rules make nearly anyone eligible. Rosen is probably practice squad eligible.
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Thanks for proving me right again.........
in case you forgot, I questioned rosen on many aspects of his character. He threw a beautiful spiral, ya.
But his love for the game was trash. His ego was off the charts, but in a very bad way - he did NOT love football. He was not a leader. etc etc.
I was all in on Allen going to be a terrific qb in the NFL.
You had rosen rated above Allen - that makes you not right at the time.
It wasn't just me - there were other guys who believed in Allen back then.
Please keep your delusions over on the Political Forum. Blind squirrels occasionally find acorns. What part of my opinion that unless Allen drastically improved his accuracy, (backed up by hours of watching him on tape) that the possibility was very real he was going to be a mega-bust. Or do you fail to comprehend that little factoid? Good For him, Bills Fans worship him. Keep on dredging up the past- hindsight is always 20\20. Too bad you now get a twofer on the Browns, Watson AND the Chosen Rosen? LOL, when does squirrel season start?
PS Cal, you have a fixation to prove yourself "right" regardless of evidence to the contrary.
Please keep your delusions over on the Political Forum.
Well let's see.
Thanks for proving me right again...
PROBABLY TRUE lol
in case you forgot, I questioned rosen on many aspects of his character. He threw a beautiful spiral, ya.
TRUE
But his love for the game was trash. His ego was off the charts, but in a very bad way - he did NOT love football. He was not a leader. etc etc.
SUBJECTIVE BUT TRUE REGARDING EGO
I was all in on Allen going to be a terrific qb in the NFL.
TRUE
You had rosen rated above Allen - that makes you not right at the time.
TRUE
It wasn't just me - there were other guys who believed in Allen back then.
TRUE
Bad time to accuse Cal of being delusional. It appears he would be right most of the time over on the poli forum. Maybe you're the one that's delusional?
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Please keep your delusions over on the Political Forum.
Well let's see.
Thanks for proving me right again...
PROBABLY TRUE lol
in case you forgot, I questioned rosen on many aspects of his character. He threw a beautiful spiral, ya.
TRUE
But his love for the game was trash. His ego was off the charts, but in a very bad way - he did NOT love football. He was not a leader. etc etc.
SUBJECTIVE BUT TRUE REGARDING EGO
I was all in on Allen going to be a terrific qb in the NFL.
TRUE
You had rosen rated above Allen - that makes you not right at the time.
TRUE
It wasn't just me - there were other guys who believed in Allen back then.
TRUE
Bad time to accuse Cal of being delusional. It appears he would be right most of the time over on the poli forum. Maybe you're the one that's delusional?
Bad time to accuse Cal of being delusional. It appears he would be right most of the time over on the poli forum. Maybe you're the one that's delusional?
Please use the pink font when using sarcasm, as it is hard to pick up in written form. Thanks!
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Thanks for proving me right again.........
in case you forgot, I questioned rosen on many aspects of his character. He threw a beautiful spiral, ya.
But his love for the game was trash. His ego was off the charts, but in a very bad way - he did NOT love football. He was not a leader. etc etc.
I was all in on Allen going to be a terrific qb in the NFL.
You had rosen rated above Allen - that makes you not right at the time.
It wasn't just me - there were other guys who believed in Allen back then.
Please keep your delusions over on the Political Forum. Blind squirrels occasionally find acorns. What part of my opinion that unless Allen drastically improved his accuracy, (backed up by hours of watching him on tape) that the possibility was very real he was going to be a mega-bust. Or do you fail to comprehend that little factoid? Good For him, Bills Fans worship him. Keep on dredging up the past- hindsight is always 20\20. Too bad you now get a twofer on the Browns, Watson AND the Chosen Rosen? LOL, when does squirrel season start?
PS Cal, you have a fixation to prove yourself "right" regardless of evidence to the contrary.
Please keep your delusions over on the Political Forum. Blind squirrels occasionally find acorns. What part of my opinion that unless Allen drastically improved his accuracy, (backed up by hours of watching him on tape) that the possibility was very real he was going to be a mega-bust. Or do you fail to comprehend that little factoid? Good For him, Bills Fans worship him. Keep on dredging up the past- hindsight is always 20\20. Too bad you now get a twofer on the Browns, Watson AND Allen? LOL, when does squirrel season start?
PS Cal, you have a fixation to prove yourself "right" regardless of evidence to the contrary.
No need to bring up the political board in this discussion. A lot of the type of venom you see in the political forum is spilling over into the football forum. Take a look at some of the football threads still going 2 weeks after the end of all intelligent conversation...
I GET IT - you don't like Cal and that's fine. You didn't start hating the guy until that political forum invited you to do so. Back in 1998-99, you were both just 2 fans in Camp Couch with a common bond for whatever that's worth. When Cal is in here participating in a football topic - let's just keep the ball busting geared toward our football opinions and maniacal predictions. People busted Cal's chops endlessly (inclusive of me) about thinking Allen was the best QB prospect for the Browns so why shouldn't he have some fun with it? I don't have a problem with him reminding us or me about it. I'll just be there ready to pounce and bounce the next time he's wrong...
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New PS rules make nearly anyone eligible. Rosen is probably practice squad eligible.
He was on Tampa's practice squad in September 2020 before the 49ers signed him off their practice squad only to waive him in their 1st round of roster cuts. Last I knew, he was with the Falcons. Not sure what happened with that.
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Thanks for proving me right again.........
in case you forgot, I questioned rosen on many aspects of his character. He threw a beautiful spiral, ya.
But his love for the game was trash. His ego was off the charts, but in a very bad way - he did NOT love football. He was not a leader. etc etc.
I was all in on Allen going to be a terrific qb in the NFL.
You had rosen rated above Allen - that makes you not right at the time.
It wasn't just me - there were other guys who believed in Allen back then.
Please keep your delusions over on the Political Forum. Blind squirrels occasionally find acorns. What part of my opinion that unless Allen drastically improved his accuracy, (backed up by hours of watching him on tape) that the possibility was very real he was going to be a mega-bust. Or do you fail to comprehend that little factoid? Good For him, Bills Fans worship him. Keep on dredging up the past- hindsight is always 20\20. Too bad you now get a twofer on the Browns, Watson AND the Chosen Rosen? LOL, when does squirrel season start?
PS Cal, you have a fixation to prove yourself "right" regardless of evidence to the contrary.
Please keep your delusions over on the Political Forum. Blind squirrels occasionally find acorns. What part of my opinion that unless Allen drastically improved his accuracy, (backed up by hours of watching him on tape) that the possibility was very real he was going to be a mega-bust. Or do you fail to comprehend that little factoid? Good For him, Bills Fans worship him. Keep on dredging up the past- hindsight is always 20\20. Too bad you now get a twofer on the Browns, Watson AND the Chosen Rosen? LOL, when does squirrel season start?
PS Cal, you have a fixation to prove yourself "right" regardless of evidence to the contrary.
Most blind squirrels just curl up and die....eh ? Too graphic ?
And yes some things do belong on the poli boards, one of the good things about TBB they have a nice place for political chit-chat and football and other chit-chat here.
Nice, eh ?
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Thanks for proving me right again.........
in case you forgot, I questioned rosen on many aspects of his character. He threw a beautiful spiral, ya.
But his love for the game was trash. His ego was off the charts, but in a very bad way - he did NOT love football. He was not a leader. etc etc.
I was all in on Allen going to be a terrific qb in the NFL.
You had rosen rated above Allen - that makes you not right at the time.
It wasn't just me - there were other guys who believed in Allen back then.
Please keep your delusions over on the Political Forum. Blind squirrels occasionally find acorns. What part of my opinion that unless Allen drastically improved his accuracy, (backed up by hours of watching him on tape) that the possibility was very real he was going to be a mega-bust. Or do you fail to comprehend that little factoid? Good For him, Bills Fans worship him. Keep on dredging up the past- hindsight is always 20\20. Too bad you now get a twofer on the Browns, Watson AND the Chosen Rosen? LOL, when does squirrel season start?
PS Cal, you have a fixation to prove yourself "right" regardless of evidence to the contrary.
Please keep your delusions over on the Political Forum. Blind squirrels occasionally find acorns. What part of my opinion that unless Allen drastically improved his accuracy, (backed up by hours of watching him on tape) that the possibility was very real he was going to be a mega-bust. Or do you fail to comprehend that little factoid? Good For him, Bills Fans worship him. Keep on dredging up the past- hindsight is always 20\20. Too bad you now get a twofer on the Browns, Watson AND the Chosen Rosen? LOL, when does squirrel season start?
PS Cal, you have a fixation to prove yourself "right" regardless of evidence to the contrary.
In other words Cal was right and it pisses you off? Anyway pictures of Rosen without his shirt on, let's just say didn't fit the image of an NFL quarterback.
WSS
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Please keep your delusions over on the Political Forum. Blind squirrels occasionally find acorns. What part of my opinion that unless Allen drastically improved his accuracy, (backed up by hours of watching him on tape) that the possibility was very real he was going to be a mega-bust. Or do you fail to comprehend that little factoid? Good For him, Bills Fans worship him. Keep on dredging up the past- hindsight is always 20\20. Too bad you now get a twofer on the Browns, Watson AND the Chosen Rosen? LOL, when does squirrel season start?
PS Cal, you have a fixation to prove yourself "right" regardless of evidence to the contrary.
In other words Cal was right and it pisses you off? Anyway pictures of Rosen without his shirt on, let's just say didn't fit the image of an NFL quarterback.
WSS
In other words Cal was right and it pisses you off? Anyway pictures of Rosen without his shirt on, let's just say didn't fit the image of an NFL quarterback.
WSS
Neither did Brady's back in his rookie year.
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In other words Cal was right and it pisses you off? Anyway pictures of Rosen without his shirt on, let's just say didn't fit the image of an NFL quarterback.
WSS
Neither did Brady's back in his rookie year.
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Please keep your delusions over on the Political Forum. Blind squirrels occasionally find acorns. What part of my opinion that unless Allen drastically improved his accuracy, (backed up by hours of watching him on tape) that the possibility was very real he was going to be a mega-bust. Or do you fail to comprehend that little factoid? Good For him, Bills Fans worship him. Keep on dredging up the past- hindsight is always 20\20. Too bad you now get a twofer on the Browns, Watson AND the Chosen Rosen? LOL, when does squirrel season start?
PS Cal, you have a fixation to prove yourself "right" regardless of evidence to the contrary.
In other words Cal was right and it pisses you off? Anyway pictures of Rosen without his shirt on, let's just say didn't fit the image of an NFL quarterback.
WSS
In other words Cal was right and it pisses you off? Anyway pictures of Rosen without his shirt on, let's just say didn't fit the image of an NFL quarterback.
WSS
Nah- it pisses me off to no end that Cal is still breaking his arm slapping himself on the back and shouting from the rooftops years later that for once, he guessed right.... Perfect 20\20 hindsight. FWIW, as rare as it is that Josh Allen miraculously improved his accuracy, there's also in the same category QBs who sucked for years, and turned their careers around.. Like Jim Plunkett.
Can Rosen do the same? Unlikely, but you never know.
Would you like me to start posting on how right I was way back that the Browns seriously f**ked up not taking Ladinian Tomlinson? Or "It's a sin if we draft Quinn"? Forget Johnny Juicer and We-Done too? I don't need to puff out my chest on how "right" I was on those Steve... I'm just doing it now to refresh you memory. It would be the same bullshit. But a certain poster here needs to puff up his ego on an outlier. As I said already hindsight is 20\20...
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Speaking about picking quarterbacks, Draft classes, how good they can be......and who the BROWNS could have picked.
Who were the quarterbacks drafted ahead of Tom Brady?
The 2000 NFL Draft was thought to be weak at the quarterback position, so only six quarterbacks were selected with the first 198 picks of the draft. They were as follows:
Round Pick Player Team 1 18 Chad Pennington Jets 3 65 Giovanni Carmazzi 49ers 3 75 Chris Redman Ravens 5 163 Tee Martin Steelers 6 168 Marc Bulger Saints 6 183 Spurgeon Wynn Browns -
Who's that?
WSS
Oh, some ne're-do-well 6th rounder. Totally forgettable. Could have been coverboy for kick sand in his face Charles Atlas ad. ?
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In other words Cal was right and it pisses you off? Anyway pictures of Rosen without his shirt on, let's just say didn't fit the image of an NFL quarterback.
WSS
Nah- it pisses me off to no end that Cal is still breaking his arm slapping himself on the back and shouting from the rooftops years later that for once, he guessed right.... Perfect 20\20 hindsight. FWIW, as rare as it is that Josh Allen miraculously improved his accuracy, there's also in the same category QBs who sucked for years, and turned their careers around.. Like Jim Plunkett.
Can Rosen do the same? Unlikely, but you never know.
Would you like me to start posting on how right I was way back that the Browns seriously f**ked up not taking Ladinian Tomlinson? Or "It's a sin if we draft Quinn"? Forget Johnny Juicer and We-Done too? I don't need to puff out my chest on how "right" I was on those Steve... I'm just doing it now to refresh you memory. It would be the same bullshit. But a certain poster here needs to puff up his ego on an outlier. As I said already hindsight is 20\20...
Would you like me to start posting on how right I was way back that the Browns seriously f**ked up not taking Ladinian Tomlinson?
big difference. I nor anyone else went apecrap and threatened to kick you off the board or warning points over disagreeing with others about anything. That is it - you had weepsies and beetchies over me disagreeing with your peepsies. lol
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Would you like me to start posting on how right I was way back that the Browns seriously f**ked up not taking Ladinian Tomlinson?
big difference. I nor anyone else went apecrap and threatened to kick you off the board or warning points over disagreeing with others about anything. That is it - you had weepsies and beetchies over me disagreeing with your peepsies. lol
big difference. I nor anyone else went apecrap and threatened to kick you off the board or warning points over disagreeing with others about anything. That is it - you had weepsies and beetchies over me disagreeing with your peepsies. lol
Weepsies? Beetchies? Peepsies?
You should get a million warning points - whatever they are - just for writing that nonsense.
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