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    AxeA Axe wrote on last edited by
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    https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2023/09/19/americans-dismal-views-of-the-nations-politics/?utm_placement=newsletter

    I couldn't agree more

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      Majorities back age and term limits and eliminating the Electoral College. Reflecting the public’s frustration with the federal government and political leaders, large shares of Americans support various changes to the political system, including for such long-standing proposals as establishing term limits for members of Congress and scrapping the Electoral College. Age limits – for both federal elected officials and members of the Supreme Court – draw broad support. But there is little appetite in the public for increasing the size of the U.S. House or modifying the allocation of Senate seats.

      Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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        Majorities back age and term limits and eliminating the Electoral College. Reflecting the public’s frustration with the federal government and political leaders, large shares of Americans support various changes to the political system, including for such long-standing proposals as establishing term limits for members of Congress and scrapping the Electoral College. Age limits – for both federal elected officials and members of the Supreme Court – draw broad support. But there is little appetite in the public for increasing the size of the U.S. House or modifying the allocation of Senate seats.

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        @mld-woody said:

        Majorities back age and term limits and eliminating the Electoral College. Reflecting the public’s frustration with the federal government and political leaders, large shares of Americans support various changes to the political system, including for such long-standing proposals as establishing term limits for members of Congress and scrapping the Electoral College. Age limits – for both federal elected officials and members of the Supreme Court – draw broad support. But there is little appetite in the public for increasing the size of the U.S. House or modifying the allocation of Senate seats.

        And a majority of Americans want to get the fuck out of Ukraine as opposed to the guy you voted into office. Funny how that shit goes.

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          Bob806B Bob806 wrote on last edited by Bob806
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          • A growing share of the public dislikes both political parties. Nearly three-in-ten (28%) express unfavorable views of both parties, the highest share in three decades of polling. And a comparable share of adults (25%) do not feel well-represented by either party.

          Yep, that's me. 

          Regarding term limits for Congress, I'm not on board with it at all. The main reason is a lot of damage could be done by some Congressman/woman who's backed by some extreme & wealthy "unknown" donor (thanks Citizens United decision). Then they leave a mess that "we the people" are upset with. The simple solution (to me, anyway) is to vote better/smarter, and hope for the best. 

          Terms limits came about in Ohio, then wham...here comes Senate Bill 5 backed by some huge funding from ALEC, despite the public polling against that 70-30%. It took a grass roots effort to overturn it. Ever since all that, I'm vehemently against term limits.

           

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            DieHardBrownsFan1D DieHardBrownsFan1 wrote on last edited by
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            Electoral college is the right thing to do.  Without it, California and New York would dictate who is President everytime.

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              Electoral college is the right thing to do.  Without it, California and New York would dictate who is President everytime.

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              @diehardbrownsfan1 said:

              Electoral college is the right thing to do.  Without it, California and New York would dictate who is President everytime.

              Pretty much true, I'd throw in Texas as well. 

              One downfall of the Electoral College though, is the Presidential candidates tend to put a lot of focus on "swing states" and may ignore other states. Perhaps that leads to corruption, or at least accusations of corruption in the elections (see Georgia lol). 

              The founding fathers were pretty smart. But they had no idea our population would boom to 340 million, and didn't see social media coming. 

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                JaxJ Jax wrote on last edited by
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                Anyone who wants to do away with the electoral college doesn't understand this country is governed by the constitution, not majority votes.

                The masses do not get to trample the rights of the individual just because they outnumber them.

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                  Electoral college is the right thing to do.  Without it, California and New York would dictate who is President everytime.

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                  MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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                  @diehardbrownsfan1 said:

                  Electoral college is the right thing to do.  Without it, California and New York would dictate who is President everytime.

                  You mean our population?

                  The all or nothing nature of the electoral college, at the very least, is pretty stupid. Makes some votes completely worthless 

                  Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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                    Anyone who wants to do away with the electoral college doesn't understand this country is governed by the constitution, not majority votes.

                    The masses do not get to trample the rights of the individual just because they outnumber them.

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                    MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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                    @jax said:

                    Anyone who wants to do away with the electoral college doesn't understand this country is governed by the constitution, not majority votes.

                    The masses do not get to trample the rights of the individual just because they outnumber them.

                    And a minority doesn't get to rule because they scream the loudest (and gerrymander the shit out of everything) (and do everything possible to suppress the vote)

                    Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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                      @mld-woody said:

                      Majorities back age and term limits and eliminating the Electoral College. Reflecting the public’s frustration with the federal government and political leaders, large shares of Americans support various changes to the political system, including for such long-standing proposals as establishing term limits for members of Congress and scrapping the Electoral College. Age limits – for both federal elected officials and members of the Supreme Court – draw broad support. But there is little appetite in the public for increasing the size of the U.S. House or modifying the allocation of Senate seats.

                      And a majority of Americans want to get the fuck out of Ukraine as opposed to the guy you voted into office. Funny how that shit goes.

                      WSS

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                      MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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                      @westside-steve said:

                      And a majority of Americans want to get the fuck out of Ukraine as opposed to the guy you voted into office. Funny how that shit goes.

                      WSS

                      Oh hey, that's wrong... shocker

                      https://www.reuters.com/world/most-americans-support-us-arming-ukraine-reutersipsos-2023-06-28/

                      Eighty-one percent of Democrats, 56% of Republicans and 57% of independents favor supplying U.S. weapons to Ukraine, according to the latest poll.

                      Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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                        @jax said:

                        Anyone who wants to do away with the electoral college doesn't understand this country is governed by the constitution, not majority votes.

                        The masses do not get to trample the rights of the individual just because they outnumber them.

                        And a minority doesn't get to rule because they scream the loudest (and gerrymander the shit out of everything) (and do everything possible to suppress the vote)

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                        @mld-woody said:

                        And a minority doesn't get to rule because they scream the loudest (and gerrymander the shit out of everything) (and do everything possible to suppress the vote)

                        Again, we're governed by the constitution.

                        The only people screaming are the lefty whackos.

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                          @diehardbrownsfan1 said:

                          Electoral college is the right thing to do.  Without it, California and New York would dictate who is President everytime.

                          You mean our population?

                          The all or nothing nature of the electoral college, at the very least, is pretty stupid. Makes some votes completely worthless 

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                          DieHardBrownsFan1D DieHardBrownsFan1 wrote on last edited by
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                          @mld-woody said:

                          You mean our population?

                          The all or nothing nature of the electoral college, at the very least, is pretty stupid. Makes some votes completely worthless 

                          Electoral college is the right thing to do.

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                            @mld-woody said:

                            And a minority doesn't get to rule because they scream the loudest (and gerrymander the shit out of everything) (and do everything possible to suppress the vote)

                            Again, we're governed by the constitution.

                            The only people screaming are the lefty whackos.

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                            MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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                            @jax said:

                            Again, we're governed by the constitution.

                            The only people screaming are the lefty whackos.

                            "Only"?

                            Have you just not noticed all of those righty whackos getting arrested for...hmmm..... something 

                            Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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                              @mld-woody said:

                              You mean our population?

                              The all or nothing nature of the electoral college, at the very least, is pretty stupid. Makes some votes completely worthless 

                              Electoral college is the right thing to do.

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                              MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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                              @diehardbrownsfan1 said:

                              Electoral college is the right thing to do.

                              But why? Just cuz it's always been that way? That's a bad reason 

                              Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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                                DieHardBrownsFan1D DieHardBrownsFan1 wrote on last edited by
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                                The Benefits | The Heritage Foundation

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                                  @westside-steve said:

                                  And a majority of Americans want to get the fuck out of Ukraine as opposed to the guy you voted into office. Funny how that shit goes.

                                  WSS

                                  Oh hey, that's wrong... shocker

                                  https://www.reuters.com/world/most-americans-support-us-arming-ukraine-reutersipsos-2023-06-28/

                                  Eighty-one percent of Democrats, 56% of Republicans and 57% of independents favor supplying U.S. weapons to Ukraine, according to the latest poll.

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                                  @mld-woody said:

                                  Oh hey, that's wrong... shocker

                                  https://www.reuters.com/world/most-americans-support-us-arming-ukraine-reutersipsos-2023-06-28/

                                  Eighty-one percent of Democrats, 56% of Republicans and 57% of independents favor supplying U.S. weapons to Ukraine, according to the latest poll.

                                  https://www.cnn.com/2023/08/04/politics/cnn-poll-ukraine/index.html

                                  So good time for you to join the Army right?

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                                    The Benefits | The Heritage Foundation

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                                    @diehardbrownsfan1 said:

                                    The Benefits | The Heritage Foundation

                                    From a conservative think tank... 

                                    Preserves federalism.... "The system fairly represents the voters". But it doesn't. Many votes are worthless. 

                                    Encourages coalition building... "A president has to represent everyone". Again, he doesn't. A very red, rural state isn't going to get either candidate to care about it. Large cities are where people are. People vote. Not acres of land. And states / cities can have their own laws still.

                                    The last three are all basically the same point. If some many votes don't matter then there's no need to cheat, or recount, etc. Of course, that didn't stop Trump from challenging everything. Or conservatives from calling every election fraudulent. So clearly, if conservatives think the current system is full of fraud they can't turn around and say the current system prevents fraud....

                                    Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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                                      @mld-woody said:

                                      Oh hey, that's wrong... shocker

                                      https://www.reuters.com/world/most-americans-support-us-arming-ukraine-reutersipsos-2023-06-28/

                                      Eighty-one percent of Democrats, 56% of Republicans and 57% of independents favor supplying U.S. weapons to Ukraine, according to the latest poll.

                                      https://www.cnn.com/2023/08/04/politics/cnn-poll-ukraine/index.html

                                      So good time for you to join the Army right?

                                      WSS

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                                      @westside-steve said:

                                      https://www.cnn.com/2023/08/04/politics/cnn-poll-ukraine/index.html

                                      So good time for you to join the Army right?

                                      WSS

                                      - a typical Steve post with a comment that has nothing to do with what he originally posted. Why? Because he was immediately proved wrong and wants to change the subject. 

                                      - opposing more aid isn't the same as "getting the hell out of Ukraine". You got this wrong. 

                                      Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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                                        @westside-steve said:

                                        https://www.cnn.com/2023/08/04/politics/cnn-poll-ukraine/index.html

                                        So good time for you to join the Army right?

                                        WSS

                                        - a typical Steve post with a comment that has nothing to do with what he originally posted. Why? Because he was immediately proved wrong and wants to change the subject. 

                                        - opposing more aid isn't the same as "getting the hell out of Ukraine". You got this wrong. 

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                                        @mld-woody said:

                                        - a typical Steve post with a comment that has nothing to do with what he originally posted. Why? Because he was immediately proved wrong and wants to change the subject. 

                                        - opposing more aid isn't the same as "getting the hell out of Ukraine". You got this wrong. 

                                        You made a post saying that America was gung ho to give every last nickel to ukraine. Not exactly but at least a lot more. I said they're not. I gave you a CNN article that said they weren't. And it wasn't from June or July.

                                        I'm just saying people are getting sick of it. If you and the rest of the Biden cult members don't agree then sign right up.

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                                          @mld-woody said:

                                          - a typical Steve post with a comment that has nothing to do with what he originally posted. Why? Because he was immediately proved wrong and wants to change the subject. 

                                          - opposing more aid isn't the same as "getting the hell out of Ukraine". You got this wrong. 

                                          You made a post saying that America was gung ho to give every last nickel to ukraine. Not exactly but at least a lot more. I said they're not. I gave you a CNN article that said they weren't. And it wasn't from June or July.

                                          I'm just saying people are getting sick of it. If you and the rest of the Biden cult members don't agree then sign right up.

                                          WSS

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                                          MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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                                          @westside-steve said:

                                          You made a post saying that America was gung ho to give every last nickel to ukraine. Not exactly but at least a lot more. I said they're not. I gave you a CNN article that said they weren't. And it wasn't from June or July.

                                          I'm just saying people are getting sick of it. If you and the rest of the Biden cult members don't agree then sign right up.

                                          WSS

                                          No, that's not what you said. You said this

                                          "And a majority of Americans want to get the fuck out of Ukraine as opposed to the guy you voted into office"

                                          And no, that's not what I said in response 

                                          If you're just going to make shit up after your first post then why even make the first post? What you said in that first post is wrong. End of story. But I imagine you'll continue to dig your heels in and typical Steve some insult, some words in my mouth, some anything to try and take this off course...

                                          .... every damn time

                                          Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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