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  • mjp28M mjp28 wrote on last edited by mjp28
    #1

    ~       ★ CLE  wins  #1 / MLB DRAFT... a 2%  chance !★AND I FOUND THE PRE-ORNAMENT PICS ! ★ SCROLL DOWN !

    ●-->   ■  ■  ■ -->   CURRENTLY  UNDER REPAIR !  We will be done shortly , scroll  down for revision.   #1.           ●-->       😁

    Thank you for your patience,   still fantastic news for the   Guardians   to start the  2024  MLB  season.  -GO TRIBE !-     

    ¿  So who's the #1 pick in the  2024  MLB Draft ?  The    BEST    starting pitcher available ?    A future closer ?                       Trade  for even more spots ?     A super slugger ?      A big surprise  ???      It's our pick.

    CLEVELAND, OHIO - SEPTEMBER 6: A detail of the Cleveland Guardians logo patch on the uniform during the seventh inning against the Minnesota Twins at Progressive Field on September 6, 2023 in Cleveland, Ohio. (Photo by Brandon Sloter/Image Of Sport/Getty Images)The No. 1 pick in the 2024 MLB Draft will don a Guardians uniform after the lottery. (Photo by Brandon Sloter/Image Of Sport/Getty Images)The Cleveland Guardians rode some great luck to their first top pick in the MLB Draft in franchise.                 ●-->   ■ ■ ■   still under repair  !    ■ ■ ■...    Plus while you are still waiting on  pending  THE TRIBE  FORUM  for repairs    ●●-->    and still waiting .... still waiting ....   -or-  just scroll down and see my  revised version  #1.    ( just below )  
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    ●--> Still  waiting  ?       Keep scrolling !      (  Just below.  Keep  going,  it's coming !  )
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    Keep going,  it's worth it  ........  I promise !     🙄   
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    AND speaking of lotteries and the 2% long shots  .....   Entering the lottery with the ninth-best odds at 2.0% for the first overall pick in the 2024 MLB Draft, the Guardians emerged victorious on Tuesday at the Winter Meetings in Nashville.The Cincinnati Reds also jumped up from the 13th-best odds for the top pick (0.9%) to No. 2 overall, a nice reward after finishing this year with a winning record, but out of the playoffs. The next four picks landed with the Colorado Rockies, Oakland Athletics, Chicago White Sox and Kansas City Royals, the four teams that entered the lottery with the best odds. 
    ......   Keep on TRUCKIN'  baby !     Almost there,  I promise.  ●-->
     

    Yes !  .... Where the top 6 picks went in the 2024 MLB Draft lottery

    Here you can see where each team would have previously selected in the 2024 MLB Draft and which teams ended up getting the top six picks, with their odds at the top pick in parenthesis.

    1. Oakland Athletics (18.3%) → Guardians  ★
    2. Kansas City Royals (18.3%) → Reds
    3. Colorado Rockies (18.3%) → Rockies
    4. Chicago White Sox (14.7%) → Athletics
    5. St. Louis Cardinals (8.3%) → White Sox ●
    6. Los Angeles Angels (6.1%) → Royals  ●
    The Washington Nationals would have had the fifth-best odds for the first pick, but their winning of the No. 2 pick last year and their status as a revenue-sharing payor made them ineligible to win a pick this year and guaranteed they would pick no earlier than 10th.

    The biggest loser of the 2024 MLB Draft lottery: the A's

    At first glance, the A's appeared to do ... fine. It hurts to lose 112 games in 2023 and then end up with the No. 4 overall pick, but teams have overcome larger obstacles. That wasn't the bad news, however.

    Because MLB really, really wanted to discourage tanking in the vein of what the A's are doing now, strip-mining their MLB team for years for prospects and, more importantly, salary reduction, the league added a few rules to the lottery. Not only can revenue-sharing payors like the Nationals not win top 6 picks in back-to-back drafts, no team at all can win picks in three drafts in a row.

    So because the A's "won" a pick here and the No. 6 pick last year (when they were again tied for the best odds at the top pick), they are now ineligible for any pick higher than No. 10 last year. It actually would have benefited them to completely lose the lottery, which would have landed them at No. 7, because they would have been eligible for the next lottery, where they would have likely had good odds again.

    Under the previous system, the A's would have had the No. 2 pick in 2023, the No. 1 pick in 2024 and, most likely, a top 3 pick in 2025. Instead, their respective picks will be No. 6 (which turned into shortstop Jacob Wilson), No. 4 and No. 10. Given that the league made these rules exactly for teams like the A's, not many tears are going to be shed around the league.

    Why the Mets, Padres and Yankees fell more than anyone

    The A's fell into a nightmare scenario in Nashville, but the actual biggest fallers were the New York Mets, San Diego Padres and New York Yankees, not coincidentally the teams with the three biggest payrolls last season.

    The Mets held the seventh-best odds in the lottery, the Padres 14th and the Yankees 15th, but the twist was they needed to win a top 6 pick in the lottery to avoid having their picks moved back 10 slots because they exceeded a certain luxury tax threshold. And since none of them had a ping-pong ball fall in their favor, they will now pick 19th (Mets), 24th (Padres) and 25th (Yankees).

    Full 2024 MLB Draft order   ●-->   featuring the  *AL Central

    ★  1. Cleveland Guardians ..... an incredible stroke of  GOOD luck to start the 2024 season.
    2. Cincinnati Reds ...... a great pick  BUT  still could not win the srare of OH-IO .... LOL.
    3. Colorado Rockies
    4. Oakland Athletics
    ● 5. Chicago White Sox ..... not bad.
    ● 6. Kansas City Royals ...... not bad.
    ● 11. Detroit Tigers ...... still rebuilding.
    ●  21. Minnesota Twins .....  20  picks behind  Cleveland,  a lot of good picks went by...... lol.

    ▪︎  Keep on going for the original  PRE-ORNAMENTS  Guardians a 2%  long shot chance,  right.

  • Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven wrote on last edited by
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    Holy shitballs, this is fantastic (potentially) news!

  • Holy shitballs, this is fantastic (potentially) news!

    mjp28M mjp28 wrote on last edited by
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    @dutch-oven said:

    Holy shitballs, this is fantastic (potentially) news!

    Oh yes,  in so many ways.  I love the  2024  AL Central  order.  I was looking at the Christmas tree article with all of the bulbs .....  could barely find the Guardians tiny ornament and the little. 2%  writing.   I was going to put it up here. AFTER  the order came out.    Well,   ?    ho-ho-ho.     

  • @dutch-oven said:

    Holy shitballs, this is fantastic (potentially) news!

    Oh yes,  in so many ways.  I love the  2024  AL Central  order.  I was looking at the Christmas tree article with all of the bulbs .....  could barely find the Guardians tiny ornament and the little. 2%  writing.   I was going to put it up here. AFTER  the order came out.    Well,   ?    ho-ho-ho.     

    Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven wrote on last edited by
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    @mjp28 said:

    Oh yes,  in so many ways.  I love the  2024  AL Central  order.  I was looking at the Christmas tree article with all of the bulbs .....  could barely find the Guardians tiny ornament and the little. 2%  writing.   I was going to put it up here. AFTER  the order came out.    Well,   ?    ho-ho-ho.     

    Hopefully a good middle-of-the-order bat with power ends up in the Guardians stocking. 

  • Browns149B Browns149 wrote on last edited by
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    They will probably draft another pitcher. 

  • They will probably draft another pitcher. 

    Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven wrote on last edited by
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    @browns149 said:

    They will probably draft another pitcher. 

    Can never have enough pitching..

  • @browns149 said:

    They will probably draft another pitcher. 

    Can never have enough pitching..

    mjp28M mjp28 wrote on last edited by mjp28
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    @dutch-oven said:

    Can never have enough pitching..

    Oh yes, their pitching has carried this team through decades of  Cy Young caliber  pitchers and great trade bait when they are  NEAR  empty.

    But In 2024 .... a can't miss 5 tool slugger ......   hmmmm ?   But still a can't miss pitcher  -or- a loaded trade ?

    Nice problems to have.  ♥️    LET'S GO TRIBE !

    .......  edit, add .....  now to untangle this article,  but I did it quick,  couldn't wait to get it up here.

  • mjp28M mjp28 wrote on last edited by mjp28
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    ~       ★ CLE  wins  #1  pick in the MLB DRAFT  .....  a 2%  chance coming in !         

                   ■  ■  ■ -->   CURRENTLY  UNDER REPAIR !  We will be done shortly . ●-->       😁    OK GUYS, my revised version #1.


    CLEVELAND, OHIO - SEPTEMBER 6: A detail of the Cleveland Guardians logo patch on the uniform during the seventh inning against the Minnesota Twins at Progressive Field on September 6, 2023 in Cleveland, Ohio. (Photo by Brandon Sloter/Image Of Sport/Getty Images)The No. 1 pick in the 2024 MLB Draft will don a Guardians uniform after the lottery. (Photo by Brandon Sloter/Image Of Sport/Getty Images)The Cleveland Guardians rode some great luck to their first top pick in the MLB Draft in franchise history.          ■ ■ ■   still under repair  !    ■ ■ ■      ?
     

    And .....   Entering the lottery with the ninth-best odds at 2.0% for the first overall pick in the 2024 MLB Draft, the Guardians emerged victorious on Tuesday at the Winter Meetings in Nashville.The Cincinnati Reds also jumped up from the 13th-best odds for the top pick (0.9%) to No. 2 overall, a nice reward after finishing this year with a winning record, but out of the playoffs. The next four picks landed with the Colorado Rockies, Oakland Athletics, Chicago White Sox and Kansas City Royals, the four teams that entered the lottery with the best odds.
    Where the top 6 picks went in the 2024 MLB Draft lottery
    Here you can see where each team would have previously selected in the 2024 MLB Draft and which teams ended up getting the top six picks, with their odds at the top pick in parenthesis.

    1. Oakland Athletics (18.3%) → Guardians
    2. Kansas City Royals (18.3%) → Reds
    3. Colorado Rockies (18.3%) → Rockies
    4. Chicago White Sox (14.7%) → Athletics
    5. St. Louis Cardinals (8.3%) → White Sox
    6. Los Angeles Angels (6.1%) → Royals
    7. The Washington Nationals 
    would have had the fifth-best odds for the first pick, but their winning of the No. 2 pick last year and their status as a revenue-sharing payor made them ineligible to win a pick this year and guaranteed they would pick no earlier than 10th.

    The biggest loser of the 2024 MLB Draft lottery: the A's
    At first glance, the A's appeared to do ... fine. It hurts to lose 112 games in 2023 and then end up with the No. 4 overall pick, but teams have overcome larger obstacles. That wasn't the bad news, however.

    Because MLB really, really wanted to discourage tanking in the vein of what the A's are doing now, strip-mining their MLB team for years for prospects and, more importantly, salary reduction, the league added a few rules to the lottery. Not only can revenue-sharing payors like the Nationals not win top 6 picks in back-to-back drafts, no team at all can win picks in three drafts in a row.

    So because the A's "won" a pick here and the No. 6 pick last year (when they were again tied for the best odds at the top pick), they are now ineligible for any pick higher than No. 10 last year. It actually would have benefited them to completely lose the lottery, which would have landed them at No. 7, because they would have been eligible for the next lottery, where they would have likely had good odds again.

    Under the previous system, the A's would have had the No. 2 pick in 2023, the No. 1 pick in 2024 and, most likely, a top 3 pick in 2025. Instead, their respective picks will be No. 6 (which turned into shortstop Jacob Wilson), No. 4 and No. 10. Given that the league made these rules exactly for teams like the A's, not many tears are going to be shed around the league.

    Why the Mets, Padres and Yankees fell more than anyone
    The A's fell into a nightmare scenario in Nashville, but the actual biggest fallers were the New York Mets, San Diego Padres and New York Yankees, not coincidentally the teams with the three biggest payrolls last season.

    The Mets held the seventh-best odds in the lottery, the Padres 14th and the Yankees 15th, but the twist was they needed to win a top 6 pick in the lottery to avoid having their picks moved back 10 slots because they exceeded a certain luxury tax threshold. And since none of them had a ping-pong ball fall in their favor, they will now pick 19th (Mets), 24th (Padres) and 25th (Yankees).

    ▪︎. Full 2024 MLB Draft order   ●-->   featuring the  *AL Central
    ★  1. Cleveland Guardians. ★
    2. Cincinnati Reds
    3. Colorado Rockies
    4. Oakland Athletics
    ● 5. Chicago White Sox
    ● 6. Kansas City Royals
    ● 11. Detroit Tigers
    ●  21. Minnesota Twins

  • @browns149 said:

    They will probably draft another pitcher. 

    Can never have enough pitching..

    Browns149B Browns149 wrote on last edited by
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    @dutch-oven said:

    Can never have enough pitching..

    You can’t win if you don’t score 

    The pitching has been great for years and they haven’t won the World Series. 

    The Rangers were in the top 3 in OPS,Slug, runs, RBI, Avg. They were 18th in ERA. 

    Hitting wins more then pitching does

  • @dutch-oven said:

    Can never have enough pitching..

    You can’t win if you don’t score 

    The pitching has been great for years and they haven’t won the World Series. 

    The Rangers were in the top 3 in OPS,Slug, runs, RBI, Avg. They were 18th in ERA. 

    Hitting wins more then pitching does

    Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven wrote on last edited by
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    @browns149 said:

    You can’t win if you don’t score 

    The pitching has been great for years and they haven’t won the World Series. 

    The Rangers were in the top 3 in OPS,Slug, runs, RBI, Avg. They were 18th in ERA. 

    Hitting wins more then pitching does

    Tell that to those 90s Indians teams. 

  • @browns149 said:

    You can’t win if you don’t score 

    The pitching has been great for years and they haven’t won the World Series. 

    The Rangers were in the top 3 in OPS,Slug, runs, RBI, Avg. They were 18th in ERA. 

    Hitting wins more then pitching does

    Tell that to those 90s Indians teams. 

    Browns149B Browns149 wrote on last edited by
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    @dutch-oven said:

    Tell that to those 90s Indians teams. 

    That was a different era. Starters back then were dominant. They are not even close to that now 

    It’s all about offense now and to some extent relief pitching. 
    A dominant starting pitcher, nowadays, is almost extinct. Drafting one first overall would be a mistake. IMO

  • @dutch-oven said:

    Tell that to those 90s Indians teams. 

    That was a different era. Starters back then were dominant. They are not even close to that now 

    It’s all about offense now and to some extent relief pitching. 
    A dominant starting pitcher, nowadays, is almost extinct. Drafting one first overall would be a mistake. IMO

    Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven wrote on last edited by
    #12

    @browns149 said:

    That was a different era. Starters back then were dominant. They are not even close to that now 

    It’s all about offense now and to some extent relief pitching. 
    A dominant starting pitcher, nowadays, is almost extinct. Drafting one first overall would be a mistake. IMO

    Do you really want to compare offense now to offense in the mid 90s - early 2000s?

    I mean, feel free to, but you are going to lose that debate badly.

    But from what I've seen, as of now, it seems more likely that the Gs would take a hitter from what is available in the upcoming draft. Of course, things can change during the coming college season, but it seems like a hitter heavy top of the draft. 

  • @browns149 said:

    You can’t win if you don’t score 

    The pitching has been great for years and they haven’t won the World Series. 

    The Rangers were in the top 3 in OPS,Slug, runs, RBI, Avg. They were 18th in ERA. 

    Hitting wins more then pitching does

    Tell that to those 90s Indians teams. 

    mjp28M mjp28 wrote on last edited by
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    @dutch-oven said:

    Tell that to those 90s Indians teams. 

    The 90s INDIANS we as scary or more scary than the '29 Yanks   -but-  they did not have a true #1  starter.  And repeatidly could not win game 1,  a tough assignment in playoff baseball.  

    The recent INDIANS were just snakebit.

  • mjp28M mjp28 wrote on last edited by mjp28
    #14

    And  we're actually   talkin' baseball   in December not just February or March of next year .....

    ......  is that cool or what !   Well  virtually stealing   the  #1 pick   in the MLB Draft will do that.

    I'm still in shock after seeing that tiny Christmas ornament with the tiny   2%   on it, oh yeah.   ?

  • mjp28M mjp28 wrote on last edited by mjp28
    #15

    ~          And the  pre- drawing    PRE- ORNAMENT  tree that I was looking for.

                        And here it is !    

    Screenshot_2023-12-07_003524.jpg

  • mjp28M mjp28 wrote on last edited by
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    The pre drawing  Cincinnati Reds. 0.9%  almost pulled off a pretty big miracle,  in fact at Pick #2  did OK.

    But they didn't win the  OH-IO. poll.      😆

  • Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven wrote on last edited by
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  • The pre drawing  Cincinnati Reds. 0.9%  almost pulled off a pretty big miracle,  in fact at Pick #2  did OK.

    But they didn't win the  OH-IO. poll.      😆

    sydS syd wrote on last edited by
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    @mjp28 said:

    The pre drawing  Cincinnati Reds. 0.9%  almost pulled off a pretty big miracle,  in fact at Pick #2  did OK.

    But they didn't win the  OH-IO. poll.      😆

    Reds gonna sweep the plates with the indians  next year

  • sydS syd

    @mjp28 said:

    The pre drawing  Cincinnati Reds. 0.9%  almost pulled off a pretty big miracle,  in fact at Pick #2  did OK.

    But they didn't win the  OH-IO. poll.      😆

    Reds gonna sweep the plates with the indians  next year

    mjp28M mjp28 wrote on last edited by
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    @syd said:

    Reds gonna sweep the plates with the indians  next year

    Well we shall see what the bonus  #1  MLB  Draft  pick brings to the Guardians ....

    ..... but the  #2  MLB Draft pick by the Reds is pretty good too.    A  #1  vs  #2  showdown in 2024 to see who's pick is better,  NICE !    🙂

  • sydS syd

    @mjp28 said:

    The pre drawing  Cincinnati Reds. 0.9%  almost pulled off a pretty big miracle,  in fact at Pick #2  did OK.

    But they didn't win the  OH-IO. poll.      😆

    Reds gonna sweep the plates with the indians  next year

    Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven wrote on last edited by
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    @syd said:

    Reds gonna sweep the plates with the indians  next year

    Reds playing AAA teams in Indianapolis next year, are they syd? ?