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  • Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven wrote on last edited by Dutch Oven
    #7

    Browns might have to get desperate and sign Suh off his couch.

    I'm worried about our run defense down the stretch. 

  • IbleedbrownI Ibleedbrown wrote on last edited by
    #8

    TV mappin’ time!

    https://506sports.com/nfl.php?yr=2023&wk=15 

    The map is about what you would expect for the Browns v. Bears. All of OH, most of IL, and since IN is IN between (ba dum, tss), we’re taking that too. Which is great for me since l’ll be in the Hoosier state this Sunday. 

    We also got some border areas in KY, WV, PA and WV. And let’s give it up for Ft. Myers, FL this week. A little island of Browns fans in the panhandle state!

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  • T TexasAg1969 wrote on last edited by
    #9

    What a totally forgetable game they tag me with again this week. KC at NE??!! Pure horseshit,.

  • What a totally forgetable game they tag me with again this week. KC at NE??!! Pure horseshit,.

    bbedwardB bbedward wrote on last edited by
    #10

    Im more worried about the Bears D than their offense. I think we have decent depth to make up for Hurst and Ogbo. Not so much as safety, but we get Ward back probably which is a net positive in the secondary.

    @texasag1969 said:

    What a totally forgetable game they tag me with again this week. KC at NE??!! Pure horseshit,.

    Time to visit the local browns backers, I guess they think people wanna tune in to get the follow up on the mahomes crying about legit call story - even though it’s a garbage game. If you use YouTube TV I’ve successfully spoofed the location to get different games too.

  • Im more worried about the Bears D than their offense. I think we have decent depth to make up for Hurst and Ogbo. Not so much as safety, but we get Ward back probably which is a net positive in the secondary.

    @texasag1969 said:

    What a totally forgetable game they tag me with again this week. KC at NE??!! Pure horseshit,.

    Time to visit the local browns backers, I guess they think people wanna tune in to get the follow up on the mahomes crying about legit call story - even though it’s a garbage game. If you use YouTube TV I’ve successfully spoofed the location to get different games too.

    tiamat63T tiamat63 wrote on last edited by
    #11

    @bbedward said:

    Im more worried about the Bears D than their offense. 

    But you shouldn't be.  

     This defense has struggled with QB fueled run games and pre-snap communication off motion all season long.  Two things the Bears offense uses quite a bit. 

  • Bob806B Bob806 wrote on last edited by
    #12

    Fields is the key. Contain him, don't let DJ Moore slip open too many times. The Bears will make a few plays (hope not).

    The Browns need this one real bad. Once again, injuries are a huge obstacle. The home crowd has to get involved like last week, it was a blast down there. 

  • bbedwardB bbedward wrote on last edited by
    #13

    Seems like we always catch the teams on their hot streaks. Hopefully fields has a bad day

  • Seems like we always catch the teams on their hot streaks. Hopefully fields has a bad day

    T TexasAg1969 wrote on last edited by
    #14

    @bbedward said:

    Seems like we always catch the teams on their hot streaks. Hopefully fields has a bad day

    Hopefully Myles' left shoulder is back to normal enough to use all his tricks to get in to Fields.

  • S SdBacker80 wrote on last edited by
    #15

    Good Flacco we win…Poor Flacco we lose.  The line is strange to me…I expected the Browns by -6 or -7 

    Im a little worried about 3rd down Fields scrambling and/or buying time with his feet and finding big plays downfield.


    DJ Moore is the big name but Kmet can be a problem.  

  • Good Flacco we win…Poor Flacco we lose.  The line is strange to me…I expected the Browns by -6 or -7 

    Im a little worried about 3rd down Fields scrambling and/or buying time with his feet and finding big plays downfield.


    DJ Moore is the big name but Kmet can be a problem.  

    bbedwardB bbedward wrote on last edited by
    #16

    @sdbacker80 said:

    Good Flacco we win…Poor Flacco we lose.  The line is strange to me…I expected the Browns by -6 or -7 

    Im a little worried about 3rd down Fields scrambling and/or buying time with his feet and finding big plays downfield.


    DJ Moore is the big name but Kmet can be a problem.  

    1) There's no such thing as a Flacco that isn't elite, if you asked me before he signed his Browns deal maybe I'd say something different though. 

    2) Yes, the pass rush needs to connect - Fields is no Lamar yet at least, he usually crumbles under pressure - though he's certainly capable of making those plays

    3) Thankfully Ward should finally be playing, but no Delpit - not like he's that great as a coverage safety anyway.

    They have near a top-10 defense, and one of the best at stuffing the run. It'll be a challenge for Flacco and the boys. Their offense hasn't really put it together consistently, but in the games where they do have it together they have some explosive pieces.

    Our offense has had a turnover problem, and that Bears D has a knack for creating turnovers - so please just protect the ball this week. 

  • @sdbacker80 said:

    Good Flacco we win…Poor Flacco we lose.  The line is strange to me…I expected the Browns by -6 or -7 

    Im a little worried about 3rd down Fields scrambling and/or buying time with his feet and finding big plays downfield.


    DJ Moore is the big name but Kmet can be a problem.  

    1) There's no such thing as a Flacco that isn't elite, if you asked me before he signed his Browns deal maybe I'd say something different though. 

    2) Yes, the pass rush needs to connect - Fields is no Lamar yet at least, he usually crumbles under pressure - though he's certainly capable of making those plays

    3) Thankfully Ward should finally be playing, but no Delpit - not like he's that great as a coverage safety anyway.

    They have near a top-10 defense, and one of the best at stuffing the run. It'll be a challenge for Flacco and the boys. Their offense hasn't really put it together consistently, but in the games where they do have it together they have some explosive pieces.

    Our offense has had a turnover problem, and that Bears D has a knack for creating turnovers - so please just protect the ball this week. 

    S SdBacker80 wrote on last edited by
    #17

    @bbedward said:

    1) There's no such thing as a Flacco that isn't elite, if you asked me before he signed his Browns deal maybe I'd say something different though. 

    2) Yes, the pass rush needs to connect - Fields is no Lamar yet at least, he usually crumbles under pressure - though he's certainly capable of making those plays

    3) Thankfully Ward should finally be playing, but no Delpit - not like he's that great as a coverage safety anyway.

    They have near a top-10 defense, and one of the best at stuffing the run. It'll be a challenge for Flacco and the boys. Their offense hasn't really put it together consistently, but in the games where they do have it together they have some explosive pieces.

    Our offense has had a turnover problem, and that Bears D has a knack for creating turnovers - so please just protect the ball this week. 

    8-5 and we lead the league in turnovers with 27 (the bad kind).  Amazing.  
     

    I don’t think you will ever find a team with a record .500 or better that has lead the league in giveaways. 

  • @bbedward said:

    1) There's no such thing as a Flacco that isn't elite, if you asked me before he signed his Browns deal maybe I'd say something different though. 

    2) Yes, the pass rush needs to connect - Fields is no Lamar yet at least, he usually crumbles under pressure - though he's certainly capable of making those plays

    3) Thankfully Ward should finally be playing, but no Delpit - not like he's that great as a coverage safety anyway.

    They have near a top-10 defense, and one of the best at stuffing the run. It'll be a challenge for Flacco and the boys. Their offense hasn't really put it together consistently, but in the games where they do have it together they have some explosive pieces.

    Our offense has had a turnover problem, and that Bears D has a knack for creating turnovers - so please just protect the ball this week. 

    8-5 and we lead the league in turnovers with 27 (the bad kind).  Amazing.  
     

    I don’t think you will ever find a team with a record .500 or better that has lead the league in giveaways. 

    Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven wrote on last edited by
    #18

    @sdbacker80 said:

    8-5 and we lead the league in turnovers with 27 (the bad kind).  Amazing.  
     

    I don’t think you will ever find a team with a record .500 or better that has lead the league in giveaways. 

    This team makes zero sense. 

    There's really no logical reason this team is 8-5. ?

  • @sdbacker80 said:

    8-5 and we lead the league in turnovers with 27 (the bad kind).  Amazing.  
     

    I don’t think you will ever find a team with a record .500 or better that has lead the league in giveaways. 

    This team makes zero sense. 

    There's really no logical reason this team is 8-5. ?

    bbedwardB bbedward wrote on last edited by
    #19

    @dutch-oven said:

    This team makes zero sense. 

    There's really no logical reason this team is 8-5. ?

    Those 9ers and colts games really bounced in our favor, but it’s about time we got some luck - we really needed it with PJ Walker taking snaps

  • @dutch-oven said:

    This team makes zero sense. 

    There's really no logical reason this team is 8-5. ?

    Those 9ers and colts games really bounced in our favor, but it’s about time we got some luck - we really needed it with PJ Walker taking snaps

    Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven wrote on last edited by
    #20

    @bbedward said:

    Those 9ers and colts games really bounced in our favor, but it’s about time we got some luck - we really needed it with PJ Walker taking snaps

    The amount of injuries to important parts of the team that have happened- and yet the team keeps chugging ahead - is almost baffling. 

    I won't lie though, I'm worried eventually all the player losses is going to finally catch up to the Browns.

    The banged up DLine, the safeties and our OTackles specifically worry me. 

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    This is one of my Must Win games because it's one of those games that you're supposed to win.  We're supposed to beat the 5-8 Bears.  But we're equals on offense, and they're quite good on D.  They only allow 84 rushing yards per game.  And I bet that part of that 19th ranked pass D is because ya can't run on them so ya HAVE to pass.  

    They're a very strong running team and we're getting decimated with injuries.  Pretty soon all we'll have left is the guys we had last year, who were getting gaffed by the run.

    This is a scary game...and we need the win badly.  I think it's going to come down to Flacco.  Can he pass us to victory?  

    mjp28M mjp28 wrote on last edited by mjp28
    #21

    @orion said:

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    This is one of my Must Win games because it's one of those games that you're supposed to win.  We're supposed to beat the 5-8 Bears.  But we're equals on offense, and they're quite good on D.  They only allow 84 rushing yards per game.  And I bet that part of that 19th ranked pass D is because ya can't run on them so ya HAVE to pass.  

    They're a very strong running team and we're getting decimated with injuries.  Pretty soon all we'll have left is the guys we had last year, who were getting gaffed by the run.

    This is a scary game...and we need the win badly.  I think it's going to come down to Flacco.  Can he pass us to victory?  

    All year barring injuries  it's  CLE  pass D/G  1st  |  Sack ratio + |  and timely Give + |  that have carried the  BROWNS ....  look for the same on Sunday.

    And the steady arm of  Mr Flacco.   Just enough of  everything   to pull off the  W9.

    GO BROWNS !

  • sydS syd wrote on last edited by
    #22

    Kosar beating the bears

  • sydS syd

    Kosar beating the bears

    OrionO Orion wrote on last edited by
    #23

    @syd said:

    Kosar beating the bears

    Notice the protective pads they wore.   Now, more games and less protection.  And the beautiful helmets we used to have....before the Haslems got their meddling hands on them.

  • @syd said:

    Kosar beating the bears

    Notice the protective pads they wore.   Now, more games and less protection.  And the beautiful helmets we used to have....before the Haslems got their meddling hands on them.

    Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven wrote on last edited by
    #24

    @orion said:

    Notice the protective pads they wore.   Now, more games and less protection.  And the beautiful helmets we used to have....before the Haslems got their meddling hands on them.

    They got rid of those stupid white facemasks, so I'll give them props for that. 

  • @syd said:

    Kosar beating the bears

    Notice the protective pads they wore.   Now, more games and less protection.  And the beautiful helmets we used to have....before the Haslems got their meddling hands on them.

    bbedwardB bbedward wrote on last edited by
    #25

    @orion said:

    Notice the protective pads they wore.   Now, more games and less protection.  And the beautiful helmets we used to have....before the Haslems got their meddling hands on them.

    The smaller pads is a combo of things including player preference, but also the designs are much better and everything is precisely custom fit these days. They also say the smaller pads lead to less shoulder to shoulder collisions, makes hands more important.

    So all in all the modern equipment is better for safety, it’s better materials, better torso fit, better design, and leads to less direct shoulder hits.

  • Korsou DawgK Korsou Dawg wrote on last edited by
    #26

    This helps:

    Brad Biggs@BradBiggs
    #Bears coach Matt Eberflus said DE Yannick Ngakoue has a broken ankle. It's a season-ending injury and he will be placed on injured reserve.