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  • sydS syd wrote on last edited by

    Bernie days away

    Bernie Kosar of the Cleveland Browns drops back to pass against the Washington Redskins during an NFL Football game October 13, 1991 at RFK Stadium...

  • mjp28M mjp28 wrote on last edited by mjp28

    ★  And my absolute favorite  # 19  is coming up. .....  Boardman, Ohio,  UM,  and the    Cleveland BROWNS'   absolute favorite  Mr  Bernie Kosar ! ★

    A LITTLE HISTORY FIRST  -  HOW IT ALL HAPPENED.

    Bernard Joseph Kosar Jr. (born November 25, 1963) is an American former professional football player who was a quarterback in the National Football League (NFL). He played college football for the Miami Hurricanes, leading the team to a national championship in 1983. He subsequently played in the NFL for the Cleveland Browns from 1985 to 1993, the Dallas Cowboys in 1993, and Miami Dolphins from 1994 to 1996. He was the backup quarterback on the 1993 Cowboys team that won Super Bowl XXVIII.

    Kosar was born in Youngstown, Ohio and raised in suburban Boardman Township. He is of Hungarian descent.

    ■  He attended Boardman High School, where he earned Parade magazine All-American honors in  1981 as a senior  and was Ohio's Division I "Player of the Year." He also gained recognition as a baseball player, especially for his pitching skills.

    ● Kosar was recruited by University of Miami head football coach Howard Schnellenberger, and Kosar committed to the University of Miami, which ran a passing-oriented offense and was beginning to emerge as one of the nation's premiere college football programs. Kosar proved instrumental in establishing the University of Miami nickname "Quarterback U" in reference to the number of top quarterbacks the program produced.

    ▪︎ After being redshirted in 1982, Kosar started all 12 games as a freshman in 1983. In the 1983 season, he completed 61.5 percent of his passes for 2,328 yards and 15 touchdowns, leading the Hurricanes to an 11–1 regular season and a berth in the ● Orange Bowl against top-ranked Nebraska, which had won  22 consecutive games.    ●  In the game, Kosar passed for  300 yards  and two touchdowns, and the Hurricanes topped the Cornhuskers 31-30  for Miami's FIRST  national championship.

    ●  Kosar  earned Orange Bowl  MVP  honors for his performance  -and-  THE "U"  LEGEND  was born.    What a fantastic 31-30 game and  Bernie Kosar was headed back to Ohio to play for his hometime favorite  NFL TEAM  The Cleveland BROWNS.

    NFL career  -  NFL draft controversy. -  How CLEVELAND  got Bernie  ...  not Minnesota,  Buffalo  or  Houston !

    ● In 1885, Kosar -  was a highly sought NFL prospect, described as having "an  elite football IQ"   and "being able to decipher a defense quicker than his coaches."    But his route from the University of Miami to the National Football League would prove to be filled with widespread controversy and the use of highly unconventional transactional and draft NFL tactics.

    ▪︎-->  Kosar,  In a March 14, 1985 press conference in Miami,  he. announced that he was foregoing  his final two years of  NCAA  eligibility at the University of Miami to enter the National Football League. ■  Kosar grew up a Cleveland Browns fan,    and also announced in the press conference that he would like to play for the Browns in his native Ohio.

    NFL rules at the time permitted only college seniors and college graduates to enter the 1985 NFL draft, and Kosar was still a University of Miami underclassman in March 1985. To establish eligibility, Kosar announced he had arranged an expedited academic plan with 18 credits in spring 1985 and an additional six credits in the summer that would permit him to graduate from the University of Miami in time to meet the draft's eligibility requirements. In June 1985, the University of Miami notified the NFL that Kosar had met the course requirements to graduate.

    ▪︎  Seeking to obtain Kosar in the NFL draft, the Minnesota Vikings on April 9, 1985, traded with the Houston Oilers to obtain a top draft selection and announced their intent to draft Kosar. Meanwhile, also seeking to draft Kosar, the Browns quietly traded their first round NFL draft selections for 1985 and 1986, their third round selection in 1985 and sixth selection in 1986 with the Buffalo Bills for the Bills' first pick in the 1985 supplemental draft, which paved the way for the Browns to select Kosar in the 1985 supplemental draft if Kosar entered it.

    ▪︎ The NFL deadline for the submission of formal eligibility documents for the 1985 draft was April 15, 1985, and the Vikings learned that Kosar had not met the deadline. "I'm as confused as you are," Vikings coach Bud Grant said at the time about Kosar. "We put our bid on the line. It's up to the commissioner whether you need a verbal or a written commitment from the man. He dropped out of football, hired an agent and declared he was going in the draft. The only thing he didn't do was sign a letter."

    ■  Teams soon learned of the Browns' highly unorthodox trade with the Bills to obtain Kosar in the supplemental draft. Several teams asked then NFL Commissioner Pete Rozelle to prevent the unusual trade between the Browns and Bills. Rozelle, in turn, announced that he was giving Kosar until April 23 to submit eligibility documents for either the traditional or supplemental draft. On April 25, Kosar held a press conference, announcing his intention to skip the traditional draft and enter the supplemental draft, where he expected to be selected with the Browns' first selection.

    ▪︎ The Houston Oilers, also seeking to draft Kosar in the traditional draft, threatened to sue to stop the entire draft unless Kosar was in it. Houston also appealed to the Vikings to join the suit. Kosar's agent, in turn, threatened to sue the NFL if Kosar was obligated to enter the traditional draft.

    ▪︎ But when the Vikings refused to join the suit, the Oilers dropped it. Kosar submitted documentation announcing his eligibility and participation in the 1985 supplemental draft.

    ■  On July 3, 1985,  the BROWNS   used their first selection in the  1985 SUPPLIMENTAL DRAFT  to select  Kosar.  offering him a   -5-  year contract.

  • sydS syd wrote on last edited by

    Great read MJP. I had forgot all the in's and out's of that draft.

  • sydS syd

    Great read MJP. I had forgot all the in's and out's of that draft.

    mjp28M mjp28 wrote on last edited by mjp28

    @syd said:

    Great read MJP. I had forgot all the in's and out's of that draft.

    And how Howard Schenellenberger of   THE "U"  got Bernie from Boardman, Ohio to Miami and won a  NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP  in his  FIRST  year after Red-shirting him for one year. !   Slick move followed  by the   BROWNS'   Art Modell  and his  draft moves. 

    He knew how to use the Supplimental Draft to get Bernie !

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  • mjp28M mjp28 wrote on last edited by mjp28

    ~  AND  ~  Bernie Kosar  and his "elite foootball IQ"   PAID   a price to put it alll out there for our   Cleveland BROWNS.

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  • sydS syd wrote on last edited by

    Here's Bernie

  • sydS syd wrote on last edited by

    Tomczak days to go

    Quarterback Mike Tomczak of the Cleveland Browns during an NFL game circa 1992 at in Cleveland, Ohio. Tomczak played for the Browns in 1992.

  • sydS syd wrote on last edited by

    The great Brian Sipe days away

    Quarterback Brian Sipe of the Cleveland Browns looks to pass against the Pittsburgh Steelers as running back Dwight Walker and offensive lineman Doug...

  • sydS syd

    The great Brian Sipe days away

    Quarterback Brian Sipe of the Cleveland Browns looks to pass against the Pittsburgh Steelers as running back Dwight Walker and offensive lineman Doug...

    mjp28M mjp28 wrote on last edited by

    @syd said:

    The great Brian Sipe days away

    Quarterback Brian Sipe of the Cleveland Browns looks to pass against the Pittsburgh Steelers as running back Dwight Walker and offensive lineman Doug...

    One of my  "lucky numbers - 17"  and a great and exciting quarterback  BRIAN SIPE.

  • sydS syd wrote on last edited by

    Milt Plum days to go

    New York Giants Rosey Grier in action, defense vs Cleveland Browns QB Milt Plum at Cleveland Municipal Stadium. Cleveland, OH CREDIT: Neil Leifer

    bey you all thought i was gonna say Josh Cribbs didnt ya

  • sydS syd

    Milt Plum days to go

    New York Giants Rosey Grier in action, defense vs Cleveland Browns QB Milt Plum at Cleveland Municipal Stadium. Cleveland, OH CREDIT: Neil Leifer

    bey you all thought i was gonna say Josh Cribbs didnt ya

    Bob806B Bob806 wrote on last edited by

    @syd said:

    Milt Plum days to go

    New York Giants Rosey Grier in action, defense vs Cleveland Browns QB Milt Plum at Cleveland Municipal Stadium. Cleveland, OH CREDIT: Neil Leifer

    bey you all thought i was gonna say Josh Cribbs didnt ya

    Bill Nelson says hello. 

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  • @syd said:

    Milt Plum days to go

    New York Giants Rosey Grier in action, defense vs Cleveland Browns QB Milt Plum at Cleveland Municipal Stadium. Cleveland, OH CREDIT: Neil Leifer

    bey you all thought i was gonna say Josh Cribbs didnt ya

    Bill Nelson says hello. 

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    sydS syd wrote on last edited by

    @bob806 said:

    Bill Nelson says hello. 

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    you goddamn right

  • IbleedbrownI Ibleedbrown wrote on last edited by

    Cribbs is hands down my favorite 16. 

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  • sydS syd wrote on last edited by

    another great Phipps days to go

    Mike Phipps of the Cleveland Browns drops back to pass against the Cincinnati Bengals during an NFL football game at Riverfront Stadium December 9,...

  • sydS syd

    another great Phipps days to go

    Mike Phipps of the Cleveland Browns drops back to pass against the Cincinnati Bengals during an NFL football game at Riverfront Stadium December 9,...

    Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven wrote on last edited by

    @syd said:

    another great Phipps days to go

    Mike Phipps of the Cleveland Browns drops back to pass against the Cincinnati Bengals during an NFL football game at Riverfront Stadium December 9,...

    An argument can be made that he was part of the worst and best trades in Browns history. 

    The trade to bring him in cost us Paul Warfield, the trade to get rid of him brought us Ozzie Newsome. 

  • @syd said:

    another great Phipps days to go

    Mike Phipps of the Cleveland Browns drops back to pass against the Cincinnati Bengals during an NFL football game at Riverfront Stadium December 9,...

    An argument can be made that he was part of the worst and best trades in Browns history. 

    The trade to bring him in cost us Paul Warfield, the trade to get rid of him brought us Ozzie Newsome. 

    Bob806B Bob806 wrote on last edited by

    @dutch-oven said:

    An argument can be made that he was part of the worst and best trades in Browns history. 

    The trade to bring him in cost us Paul Warfield, the trade to get rid of him brought us Ozzie Newsome. 

    An argument can also be made that he totally screwed up the 1972 playoff game in Miami. 9 of 23 with 5 interceptions in a 20-14 loss ?. 

    Little did I know at the time that this would become kind of "normal" as a Browns fan.

  • @dutch-oven said:

    An argument can be made that he was part of the worst and best trades in Browns history. 

    The trade to bring him in cost us Paul Warfield, the trade to get rid of him brought us Ozzie Newsome. 

    An argument can also be made that he totally screwed up the 1972 playoff game in Miami. 9 of 23 with 5 interceptions in a 20-14 loss ?. 

    Little did I know at the time that this would become kind of "normal" as a Browns fan.

    Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven wrote on last edited by

    @bob806 said:

    An argument can also be made that he totally screwed up the 1972 playoff game in Miami. 9 of 23 with 5 interceptions in a 20-14 loss ?. 

    Little did I know at the time that this would become kind of "normal" as a Browns fan.

    I should say the name "Mike Phipps" in front of my dad and record the look on his face, and post it on here. 

    It would not be a cheery look. 

  • @bob806 said:

    An argument can also be made that he totally screwed up the 1972 playoff game in Miami. 9 of 23 with 5 interceptions in a 20-14 loss ?. 

    Little did I know at the time that this would become kind of "normal" as a Browns fan.

    I should say the name "Mike Phipps" in front of my dad and record the look on his face, and post it on here. 

    It would not be a cheery look. 

    Bob806B Bob806 wrote on last edited by

    @dutch-oven said:

    I should say the name "Mike Phipps" in front of my dad and record the look on his face, and post it on here. 

    It would not be a cheery look. 

    He definitely had talent & a strong arm, just never lived up to the hype. 

  • sydS syd wrote on last edited by

    OTTO Days away

    Otto Graham, Cleveland Browns quarterback, is shown with an injured and bloody jaw.

  • sydS syd wrote on last edited by

    Frank day's to go

    Quarterback Frank Ryan of the Cleveland Browns confers with head coach Paul Brown on the sidelines during a game in November, 1962 at Municipal...