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  • Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven

    @canton-dawg said:

    I remember when Mike Pettine was the HC, and he was constantly asked when he was going to start Johnny Manziel at QB.

    Pettine had a front row seat to see how incompetent Manziel was, but he kept saying he wasn’t ready yet.

    UNTIL Haslam forced him to start Manziel against the Bengals, and it was fugly!

    I was getting this same vibe from Stefanski, except that Sanders wasn’t a first round pick but from what I heard he’s a Haslam pick.

    As a Browns fan I would love to see Sanders light it up, but that’s my heart…not my head.

    My head says the Browns will have a high draft pick, and Berry and Stefanski won’t be around during the 26’ draft.

    THIS is what I've been saying for a while now...

    Some of you can whine and cry and scream and yell about firing Stefanski, or Berry, or Stefanski and Berry and perhaps you will get your wish at the end of the year. Perhaps with Stefanski even sooner.

    But the problem - the REAL PROBLEM - sits at top of this organization and speaks with a southern drawl. 

    @dutch-oven said:

    But the problem - the REAL PROBLEM - sits at top of this organization and speaks with a southern drawl. 

    Unfortunately, we can’t fire his ass.

    Two things that will define you: Your determination when you have nothing. Your attitude when you have everything. - Mike McCartney
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  • Canton DawgC Canton Dawg

    @dutch-oven said:

    But the problem - the REAL PROBLEM - sits at top of this organization and speaks with a southern drawl. 

    Unfortunately, we can’t fire his ass.

    @canton-dawg said:

    Unfortunately, we can’t fire his ass.

    That one hurt...

    I welcome the only Defensive Coordinator to earn a Superbowl Ring in New Orleans while understanding Revenge of the Nerds is a sequel. "Come get some!"
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  • M MDDawg

    @kvoethe said:

    I think we know why sanders was a 5th rounder....holds the ball...forever

    Yes in his first relief duty. We're stuck with two QB who one of them makes quick reads but has inconsistent accuracy and no deep ball, the other needs more time (which is difficult with this O line) but can stretch the field and is more accurate when he eventually makes the throw. I would like to see more of the latter before heading into the draft.

    @mddawg said:

    Yes in his first relief duty. We're stuck with two QB who one of them makes quick reads but has inconsistent accuracy and no deep ball, the other needs more time (which is difficult with this O line) but can stretch the field and is more accurate when he eventually makes the throw. I would like to see more of the latter before heading into the draft.

    I would imagine that he will get first team rep's for what ? 2 days, because of  collective bargaining. well either way no way Gabrial will be cleared by the end of the week

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  • FlugelF Flugel

    @canton-dawg said:

    Unfortunately, we can’t fire his ass.

    That one hurt...

    @flugel said:

    That one hurt...

    Good to see you around for the post game Monday therapy session. ?

    Two things that will define you: Your determination when you have nothing. Your attitude when you have everything. - Mike McCartney
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  • sydS syd

    @mddawg said:

    Yes in his first relief duty. We're stuck with two QB who one of them makes quick reads but has inconsistent accuracy and no deep ball, the other needs more time (which is difficult with this O line) but can stretch the field and is more accurate when he eventually makes the throw. I would like to see more of the latter before heading into the draft.

    I would imagine that he will get first team rep's for what ? 2 days, because of  collective bargaining. well either way no way Gabrial will be cleared by the end of the week

    @syd said:

    I would imagine that he will get first team rep's for what ? 2 days, because of  collective bargaining. well either way no way Gabrial will be cleared by the end of the week

    Yeah, but it's now apparent they were not developing two QBs, only one which makes the whole QB approach clownish and why nobody takes this team seriously, we're just a punchline now with Myles highlights.

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  • M MDDawg

    @syd said:

    I would imagine that he will get first team rep's for what ? 2 days, because of  collective bargaining. well either way no way Gabrial will be cleared by the end of the week

    Yeah, but it's now apparent they were not developing two QBs, only one which makes the whole QB approach clownish and why nobody takes this team seriously, we're just a punchline now with Myles highlights.

    @mddawg said:

    Yeah, but it's now apparent they were not developing two QBs,

    Reason?  The most obvious would be that they've seen the two of them since offseason activities, through TC, PreSeason...and they've concluded that Sanders is not as good as Gabriel.

    or

    Sanders may or may not be better or worse than Gabriel but Stef is going with the guy he stuck his neck out for.

    or

    It's a conspiracy among the coaches & FO to hold Sanders back and keep him from succeeding.  

    BEING A BROWNS FAN IS A TEST TO SEE HOW MUCH YOU CAN TAKE
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  • M MDDawg

    @syd said:

    I would imagine that he will get first team rep's for what ? 2 days, because of  collective bargaining. well either way no way Gabrial will be cleared by the end of the week

    Yeah, but it's now apparent they were not developing two QBs, only one which makes the whole QB approach clownish and why nobody takes this team seriously, we're just a punchline now with Myles highlights.

    @mddawg said:

    Yeah, but it's now apparent they were not developing two QBs, only one which makes the whole QB approach clownish and why nobody takes this team seriously, we're just a punchline now with Myles highlights.

    it would have been foolish to divey up reps between two rookies, either one needs all the reps they can get, but unlike some here I can see more upside with shedur than 5 yard throws dillion and either way one or both may be gone by next year

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  • OrionO Orion

    @mddawg said:

    Yeah, but it's now apparent they were not developing two QBs,

    Reason?  The most obvious would be that they've seen the two of them since offseason activities, through TC, PreSeason...and they've concluded that Sanders is not as good as Gabriel.

    or

    Sanders may or may not be better or worse than Gabriel but Stef is going with the guy he stuck his neck out for.

    or

    It's a conspiracy among the coaches & FO to hold Sanders back and keep him from succeeding.  

    @orion said:

    Reason?  The most obvious would be that they've seen the two of them since offseason activities, through TC, PreSeason...and they've concluded that Sanders is not as good as Gabriel.

    or

    Sanders may or may not be better or worse than Gabriel but Stef is going with the guy he stuck his neck out for.

    or

    It's a conspiracy among the coaches & FO to hold Sanders back and keep him from succeeding.  

    Gabriel is Stef's pick and he's developing him. Sanders is management's pick and he had no intention of playing or developing him despite all the public pronouncements. Berry pushed Sanders up the depth chart by trading Flacco. Not a conspiracy just another day in this dysfunctional organizaion

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  • sydS syd

    @mddawg said:

    Yeah, but it's now apparent they were not developing two QBs, only one which makes the whole QB approach clownish and why nobody takes this team seriously, we're just a punchline now with Myles highlights.

    it would have been foolish to divey up reps between two rookies, either one needs all the reps they can get, but unlike some here I can see more upside with shedur than 5 yard throws dillion and either way one or both may be gone by next year

    @syd said:

    it would have been foolish to divey up reps between two rookies, either one needs all the reps they can get, but unlike some here I can see more upside with shedur than 5 yard throws dillion and either way one or both may be gone by next year

    No need to perfectly divide them but at least a few reps a week could be assigned to the backup IF they were developing both QBs as they claimed.

  • M MDDawg

    @orion said:

    Reason?  The most obvious would be that they've seen the two of them since offseason activities, through TC, PreSeason...and they've concluded that Sanders is not as good as Gabriel.

    or

    Sanders may or may not be better or worse than Gabriel but Stef is going with the guy he stuck his neck out for.

    or

    It's a conspiracy among the coaches & FO to hold Sanders back and keep him from succeeding.  

    Gabriel is Stef's pick and he's developing him. Sanders is management's pick and he had no intention of playing or developing him despite all the public pronouncements. Berry pushed Sanders up the depth chart by trading Flacco. Not a conspiracy just another day in this dysfunctional organizaion

    @mddawg said:

    Not a conspiracy just another day in this dysfunctional organizaion

    and its not like they are at each others throats (as far as we know) philosophies are different  and I believe they both will be gone at years end, So does it really matter who got who's reps ? 

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  • sydS syd

    @mddawg said:

    Not a conspiracy just another day in this dysfunctional organizaion

    and its not like they are at each others throats (as far as we know) philosophies are different  and I believe they both will be gone at years end, So does it really matter who got who's reps ? 

    @syd said:

    and its not like they are at each others throats (as far as we know) philosophies are different  and I believe they both will be gone at years end, So does it really matter who got who's reps ? 

    Exactly, this is a war between Stef and management and the kids are the collateral damage.

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  • M MDDawg

    @syd said:

    and its not like they are at each others throats (as far as we know) philosophies are different  and I believe they both will be gone at years end, So does it really matter who got who's reps ? 

    Exactly, this is a war between Stef and management and the kids are the collateral damage.

    @mddawg said:

    Exactly, this is a war between Stef and management and the kids are the collateral damage.

    I really do not think it has gotten that bad, Remember both report separately to jimmy, and if it had gotten that bad one or both would have been canned by now

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  • M MDDawg

    @syd said:

    and its not like they are at each others throats (as far as we know) philosophies are different  and I believe they both will be gone at years end, So does it really matter who got who's reps ? 

    Exactly, this is a war between Stef and management and the kids are the collateral damage.

    @mddawg said:

    Exactly, this is a war between Stef and management and the kids are the collateral damage.

    I thought that Berry & Stef were fairly compatible.  Perhaps the whole FO aura changes a bit without DePo.

    BEING A BROWNS FAN IS A TEST TO SEE HOW MUCH YOU CAN TAKE
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  • sydS syd

    @nickers said:

    Of course an immature drunken nut job like you would infuse racism into it...

    I never said anything about his skin color you moron... But it sure seems to bother you more than anyone you "Shiddur" knob slobbin' cocksucker!

    for whatever reason you have a deep hatred for a 5th round pick and with your background as a known racist I knew you would be one of the first to respond, I mean honestly what did you expect ? wait forget it, You wanted him to fail just like you did watson. so come on nickers, Just as i told gorka set yourself free and just embrace your racism

    @syd said:

    for whatever reason you have a deep hatred for a 5th round pick and with your background as a known racist I knew you would be one of the first to respond, I mean honestly what did you expect ? wait forget it, You wanted him to fail just like you did watson. so come on nickers, Just as i told gorka set yourself free and just embrace your racism

    Quit putting words or thoughts into my mouth you drunken jerkoff... You're the one stuck on racism... If he can prove he's good..So be it..I didn't like Watson purely on the fact I think he's a scum bag for a human being... Your the one who needs AA to set their soul free... How many times do I have to remind you jerkoffs I was a huge fan of Steve McNair and Warren Moon until I found out Moon was smacking his ol'lady around like Tony Rizzo did to his ol'lady... Grow up drunk...

    Nickers...."There are no old running QB's in the NFL "~Sam Rutigliano~
  • nickersN nickers

    @syd said:

    for whatever reason you have a deep hatred for a 5th round pick and with your background as a known racist I knew you would be one of the first to respond, I mean honestly what did you expect ? wait forget it, You wanted him to fail just like you did watson. so come on nickers, Just as i told gorka set yourself free and just embrace your racism

    Quit putting words or thoughts into my mouth you drunken jerkoff... You're the one stuck on racism... If he can prove he's good..So be it..I didn't like Watson purely on the fact I think he's a scum bag for a human being... Your the one who needs AA to set their soul free... How many times do I have to remind you jerkoffs I was a huge fan of Steve McNair and Warren Moon until I found out Moon was smacking his ol'lady around like Tony Rizzo did to his ol'lady... Grow up drunk...

    @nickers said:

    Quit putting words or thoughts into my mouth you drunken jerkoff... You're the one stuck on racism... If he can prove he's good..So be it..I didn't like Watson purely on the fact I think he's a scum bag for a human being... Your the one who needs AA to set their soul free... How many times do I have to remind you jerkoffs I was a huge fan of Steve McNair and Warren Moon until I found out Moon was smacking his ol'lady around like Tony Rizzo did to his ol'lady... Grow up drunk...

    ya ya ya we heard some of your best friends are black

    now stfu and go  get your fucking helmet before you hurt yourself

  • sydS syd

    @nickers said:

    Quit putting words or thoughts into my mouth you drunken jerkoff... You're the one stuck on racism... If he can prove he's good..So be it..I didn't like Watson purely on the fact I think he's a scum bag for a human being... Your the one who needs AA to set their soul free... How many times do I have to remind you jerkoffs I was a huge fan of Steve McNair and Warren Moon until I found out Moon was smacking his ol'lady around like Tony Rizzo did to his ol'lady... Grow up drunk...

    ya ya ya we heard some of your best friends are black

    now stfu and go  get your fucking helmet before you hurt yourself

    @syd said:

    ya ya ya we heard some of your best friends are black

    now stfu and go  get your fucking helmet before you hurt yourself

    Wow... being a dip shit comes easy to you I see... At least I back my claims up with proof.. in pictures, recordings,etc... You just spout off like an entitled bitch on the rag.. I have live footage.. I'll be more than happy to shove it in your face if you like ass hat..

    Nickers...."There are no old running QB's in the NFL "~Sam Rutigliano~
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  • nickersN nickers

    @syd said:

    ya ya ya we heard some of your best friends are black

    now stfu and go  get your fucking helmet before you hurt yourself

    Wow... being a dip shit comes easy to you I see... At least I back my claims up with proof.. in pictures, recordings,etc... You just spout off like an entitled bitch on the rag.. I have live footage.. I'll be more than happy to shove it in your face if you like ass hat..

    @nickers said:

    Wow... being a dip shit comes easy to you I see... At least I back my claims up with proof.. in pictures, recordings,etc... You just spout off like an entitled bitch on the rag.. I have live footage.. I'll be more than happy to shove it in your face if you like ass hat..

    proof of what  ? you hit your freaking head again ?

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  • OrionO Orion

    @mddawg said:

    Exactly, this is a war between Stef and management and the kids are the collateral damage.

    I thought that Berry & Stef were fairly compatible.  Perhaps the whole FO aura changes a bit without DePo.

    @orion said:

    I thought that Berry & Stef were fairly compatible.  Perhaps the whole FO aura changes a bit without DePo.

    i am assuming that Berry is the one who left Stef without a veteran QB, which is a huge problem, I seriously doubt  Stef wanted to play Sanders this past sunday

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  • Well regardless of Sunday they have a week to prepare for Vegas and we should see a repeat sacking party for the Browns after watching what Dallas did last night. I may have to majorly revise my sack total for the season by Myles from 21 to 29 or so. DPOTY once again. 

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