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we know. we know. BUT how ya gonna get the playmakers the ball when the QB is on his azz? what did we see last week, mike vick on his azz? where was the dynamic playmakers they have? they were trying to tackle the guy who just intercepted his pass. passing league now (they say??). time on offense to pass and the defense to stop it. how much momass/little and mccoy team up for another couple of tds this week? AND all w/o spending diddly squat on some huge FA WR. betcha a shot of stroh rum payable the next time i see ya! be good (i know it's hard)!

@the-gipper said: If you recall, when I did one of my surveys I asked which team that was being touted for major success would fall on their face, about 2/3rds of you said The Eagles. And so far those predictions seem to be holding up. Not that I like it. Of all the teams in that NFC East Division the one that I think I like the best is the Eagles over the Cowboys/Redskins/Giants. But the fact is, they were being annointed before a game was played. Haha ya ESPN cursed the cowboys last year and it looks like the eagles this year (claiming "Super Bowl or bust"). Vick has 1 good year and was annointed best player in the league behind ESPN's favorite, Tom Brady. And I hate the entire NFC East. I wish they could all go 3-13 every year..

Anybody watch this last night? If so what are your thoughts?

@1-more-season said: I like to look at the season in four equel parts. 4 games each. Where do you see the Browns after the 1st quarter of the season? I say 4-0 at best or maybe 3-1. Wins over Cincy, Miami and Tenn. and who know about a Manning-less Colts team w/ either Painter or Collins at QB. All I can say is that I like your optimism. In a vacuum what you say sounds good, but this team is still breaking in a new coach, and new offensive system, and new defensive system etc. If they can win all those games while breaking all that in, that would be beautiful. Of course, then, the schedule would start to get tougher.

@1-more-season said: Would you go to a dentist that is below .500 in filling cavities? Probably not. How you going to argue with logic like this?

@rich4eagle said: It was not a stupid post. It was an informative post. I doubt that Brett Favre can school anyone in anything but gunslinging. Ghoolie makes great points about what we have as an MO. Lets not do it again bring in another over the hill person to lead us to mediocrity. I have NO DESIRE TO SEE BRETT FAVRE THE NARCISSIST HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH THIS FRANCHISE EVER He is not a winner.............he played twenty years and won one bowl for the great Green Bay franchise.............wOW what a resume meanwhile the hated ben has played in twice as many bowls and won twice as many BTW the way Brett Farve never played the West Coast Offense ......he played the Gunslinger here come the interceptions offense lets get lucky

@reign said: And just for fun, I skimmed the Preseason Wk.1 box scores... I didn't run total numbers, but I'd venture to say that the average kick return is UP from last year. This includes 103yd return from B. Walters, 84 by D. Karim, 70 by J. Knox and 58 by B. Banks. Numerous returns over 30 yards. Remember that the 5yd adjustment was also put in place with the restriction on the kicking team not being allowed to start 10-15yds behind the kicker. So the kicking team doesn't start by running at full speed when the ball is kicked. Well, I was at the Browns Packers game and I saw plenty of times guys running the ball out from 7 years deep in the End Zone. I doubt that will be the norm in the regular season.

Guide to these ratings: http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/6833215/explaining-statistics-total-quarterback-rating Just based on what I have read, it sounds like a superior statistical methodology to the "passer rating" stat.

@cantonlegend said: listen. im not some steelers troll. you dont need to defend the browns to me. if you go back several years you can see the browns strung together some winning seasons but aside from that they havent done anything since the beginning of the super bowl era. saying they have a large fanbase is a huge stretch nowadays. they have one of the most die hard fanbases but when i live in northeast ohio and see more steelers fans around its hard to agree with you on that part Sorry, sir, but you are misinformed. Not about the Browns record. The record is what the record is, but trust me, the fan base is out there. It just needs to be fired up. Every team has its FRAKs, and what you are seeing are just a bunch of Steeler FRAKs. If the Browns were to be in Super Bowls and win Super Bowls your brain would turn to jello over the fracas that would be made by their supporters. Did you get a load of what Browns fans did to the "Madden Cover" contest when they voted for Peyton Hillis? That was just a small taste of what would happen if the Browns became contenders. In the past (and probably even now) when the Browns went to play in places like San Diego, Tampa, Jacksonville, Houston, Phoenix etc. etc. those stadiums would be half filled by Browns fans....and I am talking in the last 10-12 years. Perhaps, starting this year,you will have the opportunity to observe this phenomena. (and yes, I am sure if they were that successful that the Browns would also have their share of FRAKs, just like the Steelers do).

There are possibly 3 hits i actually like in those 21 Derek Addai. Jabari Fletcher is a sleeper watch out if he gets a chance. Nunez could be a slight spark if they can duo him well in packages with our tight ends on cross routes fills a role if they can set him up to explode.

@kosar_for_president said: They play the Deadskins more, had to go to watch the Panthers/Browns game at a bar. I'm in the Tar-heel state too. Definitively hear more or just as much about the skins as you do the Panthers maybe it's different in Western Carolina but not down East. I guess the JETS thing is just ESPN's constant front running that bugs me.

@sisky-fringo said:yeah, definitely my favorite homosexual curently on tv. i wonder if he offered Big Rape web redemption? on the Phins TD, of course. I'm pretty sure that he has a wife but what ever.

This from my favorite local Browns writer, Steve Doerschuck: "Our guess is that Holmgren — and it’s all about what Holmgren decides — is thinking seriously about replacing Mangini. We’d go as far as to suppose the president has run through all of the transition scenarios that make sense to him." He also says Mangini has a chance to save his job with McCoy playing well and the Browns looking motivated and competitive down the stretch. I would guess the performance of the defense almost means more than the offense... because the offense is likely to be in somebody else's hands next year. I think Steve is right: Holmgren's natural inclination is to want to sink or swim with a management group of his choosing. He can easily tell himself that he gave Mangini a year and it just didn't blow him away. But if we win 2 of the next 3... gets foggier.

@diehardbrownsfan said:Teams have good days, and bad days. I don't think they say, "okay, were playing Carolina, lets lower the level of play". Its BS. It's always the team/person you underestimate that might kick your ass. Also I think that the Browns are one of the least likely teams to underestimate their opponent. We have been one of "those teams" for far too long to underestimate ANYBODY in the NFL.

@frenchie said:I hear ya, but you know what that play reminded me of. That Giants catch on the helmet during the superbowl (I think). Manning avoids the sack, throw a crazy pass, and the reciever makes a crazy catch. I knew then that the Browns were not going to win or tie the game. I'm surprised it wasn't batted down or intercepted. Yes, a lot skill but also a lot of good fortune. You make your own fortune. It wasn't good fortune, good luck, good karma, or anything like that. It was not ever giving up for one second. That's something Mangini's been trying to instill in our players, and so far he's been pretty successful. Hopefully, they are playing film of that catch on loop all week long in Berea. That's true inspiration right there, and I applaud the hell out of J. Cotch and the rest of the Jets for it.

@ithika said:Speaking of Kenny Britt he and Nicks with the Giants were taken at the bottom of the first round, not too far from when we took Robo. Those two WRs have emerged as potential stars while Robo looks to be a colosal bust! What were u thinkin Eric! Hmmm.....bottom of the first...... Robot and mo......second round. Apparently Eric was thinking more than you.....he chose a player that was still available.

Florio (I know, I know) ranks you at 21, ahead of the Queens, Cowboys, Broncos, Bills, Panthers, Bengals, 49'ers, Lions, Chargers, Cards, and the Jags. http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/...ings/?related=1

Homotron said:The Browns did? Just the Browns? lol We had a 6 game losing streak. The Steelers kept the Steeler out of the playoffs. If you want to take credit great but it sure as hell wasn't the Browns and the Browns alone. List the other 5 teams in that heinous skid and fault our own defense in the 4th quarter. The Browns kept the Steelers from the playoffs, delusions of grandeur all around. LOL We went through this. If the Steelers had been 9-7, same record, but had lost a game to a team other than the Browns (or one of the other AFCN division games, they and not the Ravens would have made the WC. So, yes, the loss to the Browns was by far the most devastating to them because the Browns at the time were a 1-11 team, and were playing like garbage and that game more than any other led to them losing a playoff spot.

First year browns or not both delhomme and fajita have obviously earned their teammates confidence and thats good enough for me...both of these guys bring an on field leadership presence that the browns havent had in a long time.