@lbc-mike said: Fuck you.  ? When my wife says that my usual reply is, "Well alrighty then!"?‍️      ?‍️

Just by chance, at birth his family named him Joker knowing he would at some point be the Browns WR Coach. For years our WR's have been a joke. The Curse is over and just maybe they find the End zone...

Desmond "was" that monster 5 tech for us last year. Not so much this year, maybe the hear thing slowed him down who knows. I'd stay with him though for now and try to get after Bosa next year as his eventual replacement.

I took my Browns shit from yesterday off and put on new Browns shit today. Gotta represent. Might represent tomorrow too.

To the point of gordon....a deal is reportedly close to fruition where the new revised drug testing policy MAY be retroactive. Key points I guess is increasing the threshold for pot failures to 50ng/ml, removal of amphetamines from the PED list, HGH testing. If its retroactive, welker and scandrick are possibly eligible for reinstatement as well as a possibly josh, but that's a much greyer area. Josh's test was in December of last year, so depending on the wording.... Agree with manzier that the doom and gloom is a bit premature. Save it for the bye week.....until then, enjoy the football.

sweet. Draft is Sunday at 730 for League 4.

@gftchris said:Schaub to Oakland, Fitzpatrick to Houston apparently. Here's Ten million reasons why I'm glad the Browns didn't get Schaub... From ESPN... "Schaub, who has a $14.5 million salary-cap figure and a $10 million base salary for 2014, became expendable when the Texans signed former Tennessee Titans quarterback Ryan Fitzpatrick to a two-year deal Thursday night." If he's not renegotiating, that's starting qb money, not backup. The "gotta draft a qb high guys" better take a reality check- this is just another obvious indication the Browns are viewing Hoyer as the de facto starter- and whether they bring in a rookie or not- he's not going to be starting opening day.

Congrads Daniel- Why Can't We Win My best draft ever getting AP and Payton Manning....wasn't enough in the end...couldn't make those last few tweeks to take the title. These are good leagues here, I'm always glad to be a part of them. Bermeck (Vernon Davis 0.00 didn't see that coming)

What I like about Fragel is that he was a TE for three years before moving to the offensive line. It's not unheard of to have a lineman report eligable, could be a unique red-zone weapon.

Barring any other angles on that it didnt look dirty or late. It pains me to say that because I hate Suh but he got screwed on that one,

He'll yeah

@miktoxic said: all i can say is: GO FUCK YOURSELF!! Well said I lost in my other league... My wife beat me (and it wasn't enjoyable) 8 teams in that league (default yahoo rules)... My browns board team would crush that team (Bree's,A Johnson,McFadden, d. Martin, and gates at TE)... I was drunk when I drafted... Already benched des Bryant and Chris Johnson... Trying jordy Nelson against Washington... Well see. Trying McFadden in browns board league as well... Hope jagg-offs suck it up this week. NE defense tonight on both teams... So far, so good Bermeck (p manning vs j cutler... Roflmao)

i think your "feeling" was just gas.

freaking pathetic expansion franchise... we have never lost that feeling Bermeck (in a league built for parity... speechless)

to soon to say on Quinn, he has but a handful of starts to soon to tell, not saying he is the greatest or anything close to it , but too soon to say he is a bust, he could be. who knows!

another article on that site: Quinn survives another week, will start vs BAL http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/...mangini_12.html "(Quinn) works at it, which is the most important thing,'' said Mangini