@nickers said: We are like brothers... Yeah.. Their skin might be dark.. But they are a great group of hard workin dudes... We all bleed the same.. That's some good AFL-CIO ad copy

@atom said: A baseball player ?  who would you sign ? Brandon Weeden

The Color of money 

@brownsfaninpa said: With all the excitement about the draft, and being in Cleveland, im surprised that nobody has mentioned that another original Cleveland Browns player is now inducted into the H.O.F. Mac Speedie was inducted over the weekend during the draft. He played from 1946-52, and passed away in 1993. GO BROWNS !! He was named to the HOF  last year.   I thought inductions were done at the Super Bowl.....or at a ceremony in Canton in August.  

@tiamat63 said: You're welcomed to send them my way. I highlighted some of our coverage changes by week 10 alone that showed the man was handicapped by his own personnel and was aware of it. You can go back and search for my posts. I'd venture a guess Stef and Barry were also aware of what I saw. Otherwise Woods likely wouldn't still be with us. Again not all his fault but he was not without fault- so another year probably warranted and Stef bringing him back after one year is not a ringing endorsement.  There were  plenty of game posts questioning him.  He called some head scratching games too.  Just off the top of my head Jax. Game where we supplied no pressure outside of our front 4 and we let a box safety like Joseph chase crossing routes...all game.   I would have preferred some added pressure and blitz packages to help a young secondary when it was painfully obvious we had trouble communicating when we sat back in zone and we had guys that couldn’t stay with WRs beyond 4-5 seconds.  Again not entirely his fault (there were personnel issues) but HELP your guys too. Pressure helps coverage too. Late in the year too guys pointing fingers at each other jumping up and down (jets game) on coverage breakdowns.  We can’t work a few things out on Tuesday, Wed. And Thursday before one of the biggest games?  I’ll be fair...we had a good game plan against the Titans.  Shadowing Brown and containing Henry shooting gaps and making him an east west runner 

Link to a map of legalization status for dope.  Click on it.  Naturally, you will note that it is mostly the backward  southern states that have resisted legalization/decriminalization along with a few conservative western states  (Idaho/Wyoming/Utah).  https://disa.com/map-of-marijuana-legality-by-state

@ballpeen said: I come and go around this board, but have been around a good while.  Some years back, like maybe 14 years ago there was a poster named Shep. Nice enough guy and fairly knowledgeable,  but man, you want to talk about a thread starter.  That guy could fart and he would start a thread about it. Like you, I come and go, and actually remember this as an AOL group... Shep and I met for drinks a couple of times. Helluva a nice guy. Knows his Cleveland Browns football. 

This is a topic I just happen come across. But as a long time Browns fan, I like the history of this team, and its founding players. As of 2021, I know of only one Browns player to be still with us at 96yrs old. His name is Dub Jones. Played for the Browns from 1948-55. He also has a son who played in the NFL, he was Bert Jones, QB of the Baltimore Colts. Bert is 69yrs old.

@brownsfaninpa said: Who remembers the WLAF games in the early 90's. I have zero memory of this league. I haven't paid attention to an alternate league since the mid-80's USFL including the San Antonio Gunslingers with Nuiheisal and the Jim Kelly lead Houston Gamblers.

Way, way too young.  Quite sad.

@dutch-oven said: It was Bill Walsh, while under Paul Brown.  The Bengals had an accurate, but weak-armed QB, and Brown gave his OC Bill Walsh the assignment of creating a passing attack that featured short passes. This was the beginning of what became the West Coast offense, shorter passes that focused on hitting players in stride to allow them to gain yards after the catch.  I didn't know about Bernie's involvement in the name, but apparently this is true, but mistakenly. Bernie mentioned "the West Coast Offense" in comparison to the Cowboys offense (when he was there) and the reporter mistakenly thought he was referring to the Walsh/49ers offense. Bernie was actually talking about the Air Coryell offense.  Bill Walsh  adapted and updated Paul Brown's basic concepts that he ran with Otto Graham.    He did not just create that offense out of the firmament.   He also took some of Sid Gillman's concepts from his San Diego offense and applied it.  Not saying he wasn't creative with it...just that the basic concepts had been around.  Walsh spent eight seasons with the Bengals as the offensive coordinator. In that time, he incorporated many of Paul Brown's philosophies into his own tool kit.

I'd rather play our lake erie bros the buffalo bills only because I like them more and if we had to lose I would rather it be to them. Still rather not lose though. 

@orion said: The Haslems had to keep 'something' from their misguided uniform change.  They have to leave their mark 'somehow'. That and the "Oranger Orange". 

@dutch-oven said: Basically, one of two things have to happen for the Browns to win.  Bad weather comes in, and the Browns pound out an ugly 13-10 type game like we saw a few weeks ago, or they win an absolute shootout.  How bout a 3rd? ...

@brownsfaninpa said: This match up against the Steelers is going to be a very important game. We need to pull out all the trick plays, and be focused on blocking and putting the heat on Ben Roethlisberger. Make this be his last game of his career. I want to see this team prove to the NFL elite that the Browns can be what this team once was in a different time. Let's give this Steelers a beat down they will never forget. Oh, and yes, we will be letting all the DAWGS out for this one. We have given the Steelers an odd look heading into this one.  I think we’ve done our best to do what they haven’t expected us to do.  I’m feeling better this morning because honestly our gameplan play calls on both sides were awful. I think our coach was playing a little chess.   I don’t think we get cute in this one. You run the ball- you put this game in Nick Chubb and Kareem Hunts hands. And you get after Ben and hopefully we match the pressure by inching the secondary closer and not giving the Steelers uncontested 8-10 yard gains.  Teams have pressured Ben recently with success. 

@topdawg31 said: Do LB's like that even exist anymore?  No.. After Clay Jr and Ray Ray... The quality at Lber has slipped IMHO... Although Clay III and Brian Urlacher were very formidable.. And thee recently retired Luke Keuchly

@tour2ma said: Looking ahead much? ...just sayin'...

@tour2ma said: Someone needs to remind me again as to who we have to replace Sendejo. Sendejo is graded 44.7 on Pro Football Focus Here are the other Browns Safety grades: Ronnie Harrison 79.6 Sheldrick 69.6 Jovante Moffat 61.8 Karl Joseph 49 YW. Hopefully that helps.