@raven5220 said:
I don't know why you guys are getting all heated up and bent out of shape. I'm just telling you guys how your team's viewed by the rest of the league. As long as most people alive can remember, the Browns have been non-contenders..the current ones and the ones that moved here. Well, the ones that moved here UNTIL they moved here.
Cleveland's problems are that they are just a loser franchise, and that's much harder to correct. One thing is for sure when it comes to the two teams: Baltimore's franchise, the entire organization all the way down to the players, are well respected around the league...the Cleveland Browns are not.
Once upon a time, I felt really bad for the city/loyal fan base of Baltimore when they lost the Colts to Indy. I thought the owner was an epic scum bag to do that to you guys. When the very next owner wired exactly like Irsay does the same thing moving his franchise from Cleveland to Baltimore - he's your hero?
BTW, the Browns were 11-5 and beat the NE Patriots in a Wild Card Game just 1 season before Modell sold his soul. Modell being Modell, didn't think Belichick was a good enough Head Coach to keep. Just out of curiosity, what NFL Head Coach has the best record and most Superbowl Championships in the last 20 years? I'll give you a hint: he's not coaching in Baltimore...
In their first 10 years of existence, the Cleveland Browns participated in every Pro Football Championship Game possible (winning 7 Pro Football Championships with 3 of those in the NFL). The Cleveland Browns only won 1 NFL Championship when Modell was here which increased their overall sum of Pro Football Championship Trophies to 8 up against 2 Superbowl Trophies for the Baltimore Ravens. What storied franchise would you rather be? I'll take the 8 Pro Football Championships...