*Zach Ertz TE *Tyler Eifert *Jordan Reed Travis Kelce *Dion Sims Vance McDonald *Gavin Escobar Nick Kasa Michael Williams Chris Gragg Zach Sudfeld Jake Stoneburner Ryan Otten

I think we all know that playing a 4-3 or a 3-4 defense will not solve our problems because still it's the players you have that makes the difference. I only don't understand one thing: we need a number of good defensive players to approach next season hoping it will be the turnaround of this franchise and getting them via draft or FA will not be easy. So why switching to a system that will cause us to need even more skilled players than the current one? I have nothing against playing a 3-4. I just don't want that decision to slow down the rebuilding process. I want to win games, sweep Pittsburgh, Baltimore and Cincinnati and make it to the Super Bowl! Is that clear enough, Chud?

@cribbs-is-the-man said: I think it's very odd to bring in a 4-3 D-line coach to coach a 3-4 defense. The defensive line does totally different things in each of the systems... He can still coach 3 guys vs 4, lol.

Sheard actually tested comparable (often better) than both Ryan Kerrigan and Aldon Smith at the 2011 combine. All three are within one inch and five lbs of each other. With Kerrigan and Smith having success in a 3-4, why not give Sheard a try for at least a year.

We have the DT depth to keep the guy fresh. Especially in the first half where there is gonna be less no-huddle and more time to sub.

@cribbs-is-the-man said: Norwood and Cooper are possession receivers, who wouldn't even make it on most other teams' practice squads let alone make a pro team's starting day roster.

I prefer Jabar Gaffney. The guy led the Redskins in reception this year, while many felt that Jacoby, though good was under-performing.

@cribbs-is-the-man said:Well I went and read ESPNs scouting page on him, he didnt seem impressive at all after that. I guess I am also just surprised that a person who was always in the discussion in the first round could fall so fast (before this incident obviously). I can see a QB like Tannehill rising (although I dont agree with it), but to see Dennard fall multiple rounds for no change in his resume since the end of the season is confusing to me. Obviously this arrest changes everything with previous scouting though. I was more commenting on the "incident"... I never saw Dennard rated as a Rnd 1'er, but I doubt his 4.55 at the Combine helped. Read his NFL.com scouting report and it has a jack-of-all-trades ring to it... no real strengths, no real weaknesses. Sounds like a mid-round talent to me... On his drop I did find this: "Dennard was remorseful after his Capital One Bowl scuffle with South Carolina wideout Alshon Jeffery. Dennard admitted he punched Jeffery, saying afterward, 'That's not the type of person I am.'" Again, I don't think a one-off incident where he was celebrating something, got into a scuffle and accidentally hit an officer trying to break it up is that off-putting. But doesn't read like that is the case... 04/23/12 - A probable cause affidavit states that former Nebraska football player Alfonzo Dennard was warned twice by police to leave Lincoln's downtown bar area before he was arrested on suspicion of assaulting an officer early Saturday morning. Dennard, 22, remained in Lancaster County Jail Monday morning. He is set to be arraigned at 2 p.m. Monday. A police report says officers observed Dennard, while walking eastbound in the 14th Street crosswalk, bumping into a 22-year-old and punching him in the chest around 2:15 a.m. Saturday. According to the affidavit, Dennard was also involved in two separate verbal arguments outside the Hour Lounge before that alleged assault. Police told him to leave the area after both incidents, according to the affidavit. The affidavit says Dennard engaged in a third altercation and punched a man. As police intervened and attempted to place Dennard in custody, he pushed and punched one officer, according to the affidavit. The injured officer, identified by Lincoln police as a four-year veteran, suffered a 2-centimeter abrasion to his left jaw, according to the affidavit. It took four officers to arrest Dennard, who was cited on suspicion of third-degree assault of an officer, resisting arrest and third-degree assault. - Jon Nyatawa, The Omaha World-Herald Maybe that it took four to subdue him will raise his stock... My guess is after reading the above he is off of our board altogether... Sounds like a Raider if this was a couple years ago... or a Bengal. Best bet today might be the Jets...

@dawginit said: The only question is where do you play him? He's going to be a great player but he's an inside linebacker. Does he take over at inside and you move Jackson outside or vice versa? You put Kuechly inside and move DGJ to WLB where he can use more of his athleticism.

@miktoxic said: we'll all be kicking ourselves in the ass by the end of the year when this guy goes bananas and we got gocong doing shit. End of the year? How about around sunset yesterday?

Hey guys I've been looking around for any videos from training camp but can't seem to find many.. Anybody found anything? Especially from family day scrimmage...

The Browns are pretty high on this Norwood kid too.

@runyon27 said: Well Austin, Quinn, Little, Searcy, Burney all missed the whole season if I am not mistaken or most of it. I know Austin, Little and Quinn missed the whole thing. Carter missed some do to injuries. They were stacked on defense but when they lost Austin and Quinn and most the secondary, hard to compete. I think they still finished 8-5, they probably would have been top 10 team had those guys been playing. I wasnt just talking about the players suspended this year i was talking about the whole team as a whole, Quinton Coples is a projected top 5 pick next year, Donte Paige Moses is projected top 15 pick next year, and Zach Brown is a projected first yound selection next year as well...Add in those players with some of the guys coming out in this years class and there are some serious NFL talent coming outta UNC as of Late

Hillis-iz-Boss said: Steven Jackson did work under Shurmer too and that's the connection I would look at before any of Holmgren connections to past running backs. Remember who the coach is. Holmgren will have some say and pull but he isn't running the team or calling the plays, that is Shurmer and he is to one who is going to make or break Hillis. Granted and I dont think it will be MH's version of the WCO either but naturally you expect simularities....

@brownsbacker said:Let me guess, you're one of the people that left the stadium at half time for the steelers game, you cheered when DA got injured, and you own a Brady Quinn jersey. Am I close? I love these random 'because we disagree about this....we have nothing in common' posts. So let me guess, you're one of the people that.............cried when DA left, thought DA would be a probowler in AZ, think Seattle wants MH back, thought we would be watching the Browns play the Packers on Sunday, thought Carthon would be a great OC because he used to be an NFL player, thought Savage would be a great GM because he was a 'great' scout, think Cowher would be twice the president MH would be because he has 2 SB rings. Spot on?

@shepwrite said:I think we have a better DL (Rubin, Schaefering, Rogers, Coleman, Smith) than WR corps (nobody). I don't doubt at all we'll be adding some youth to the DL next year, but I can't see us passing on a WR unless there's just nobody left on the board. If we were looking for a 2nd or 3rd receiver, I could see waiting, but we're not... we're looking for a serious #1. If we did get a Malcolm Floyd or Vincent Jackson, I could see looking for speed, like Broyles in round 2, but there's no guarantee he'd still be there. Doesn't take a cannon to go over the top. Any NFL quarterback can do that. The big arm is more about zing between the levels and on deep outs. Hell, Frye could go over the top. It's mostly something you do to keep defenses honest, because the completion percentage past 20 yards is like 37. I agree, we are NOT looking for a number 2 receiver, we NEED a number one. Take WR as soon as possible without reaching, an above average D-lineman is a lot more valuble than an above average WR.. I think we could pick a D- lineman in later rounds than an impact WR

Lets just agree that both vickers blowing up linebackers and Steinbach pulling are both doing their jobs very well. LETS GO BROWNS

@cribbs-is-the-man said:So we picked up a CB, 2 safetys, a O-lineman, a WR, a RB, a QB, and a DE/OLB.. What do we still need before the season through free agency/undrafted free agents? DEFENSE: I think even with the addition of Ward (history of injuries) and Asante (might not make the roster) we still need a ball hawking free safety. someone who is fast, instinctive, and can get some interceptions. Also we need more depth at DL, esp with Rodgers' situation. We are aging and have marginal players other than Rodgers.. OFFENSE: I like the Carlton Mitchell pick, I think we may have gotten a steal, but I think our recieving core is probably still the weakes spot on the team, which really frustrates me that we picked 2 guys in the second round last year that both have pretty low ceilings.. I wouldnt hate another reciever joining our crew... We'll see about McCoy, obviously the jury is still out. Good value pick though, pretty low risk for a potential starting QB. Other than WR I dont see many needs on offense anymore, although another lineman never hurts.. Thoughts? not real impressed the draft,in fact a little disappointed.

@halfsane said:Where do we go with our next pick? I have to think OT. Thats what I am saying. We needa solid RT

Gotcha. But he isn't an "everydown" back that can carry the load, so he is more like Reggie Bush in that regard. But as a FAST and tough role rb and impossible to cover receiver out of the backfield, he would be priceless. That is, if the Browns had most or all of the other player positions rock solid.....