@browns52 said:

sounds like a typical season for the browns...so whats new....nada....they need to think about replacing austin ...he had a couple good yrs at dallas, but the guy cannot stay on the field..and cameron is probably 1 more concussion away from retirement...i think taylor is also an injury liability...we ain't in as good of shape as it once appeared...oh yeah forgot about we have no receivers except for a couple smurfs who try hard...gordon will probably be gone..bust....gilbert...bust...lil chonnie..bust...do we even have a field goal kicker..we have no kickoff or punt return person...oh, and guess what, WE HAVE NO QB....the cleveland browns, still rebuilding after 16 yrs of bullshit..

ya Austin should be moved. I liked the idea of him, but then did not impress when I saw the play and was disapointed. Cameron is one or two concussions away from retirement. idk about Taylor yet. But I do like Wynn and Hughes both, could replace either Taylor or Rubin or both as we still have that kid McDaniels? (spelling). as far as WR's go I do like Gabriel and Hawkins. Rob Smith is a big WR but I have not any footage of him yet...Gordon will most likely be gone so we do need to get another big WR to take his place either through the draft or FA. Not sure I am willing to call Gilbert a bust just yet...remember it took Skrine a couple years to get there. And as far as QB goes I hope we bring Hoyer back in some role because there is not much out there in FA or this years draft...unless we get the number one overall pick...which I don't think we will try to do.

cheers from the dawgpound

I live in the high desert. Hesperia, ca , right before Victorville

@d-bone said:

Awesome!

Hahaha i laughed out loud for a minute after reading that

great our own version of James "cheap shot" harrisoon...

@rooster-dick said:

Hey Joe, thanks for all the false starts this season. Killed many drives

Really? really? are we really blaming lost games on Joe? how about umm..lets see umm, dropped balls, bad reads, bad throws, no run game after Mack went down (mostly), Gilbert's more wiffs than tips when he was on the field, Gibson being lost (lead the league in picks up to that point), K'waun Williams going down (playing lights out), starting NT's out for a big chunk of the season, four starting Centers, Miles getting hurt, Cameron hurt off and on all year, damn I think you just might be right on this one.

@westside-steve said:

Well wasn't it just recently he said he thought Johnny had the talent to play in the NFL?

WSS

Hard work beats talent, when talent does not work hard....

@westside-steve said:

http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2014/07/browns_joe_thomas_on_if_a_heal.html

Well good. ...

WSS

this article was back in July. Joe is singing a different song now

@clevfan4life said:

it's gonna be a fucked offseason in terms of that position cause there's not really a whole lot of places to turn. If Hoyer leaves we can take a run at Bradford or Cutler (ugghh)...but who else? We could pull a Washington and mortgage our shit for Mariota.....and then watch him get hurt promise you it would go down like that this is Cleveland. I really think the best we can hope for is to retain Hoyer and JF and just say hey neither of you is guaranteed the starting position. Well Hoyer could probably be guaranteed the whole season next year but if he puts in another seesaw season he has to understand it's gonna be competition the following year. If he leaves I still think we should retain JF unless someone just thinks he'd be awesome in their system and is willing to really give us something good for him. I dunno.

dude we absolutely need depth on the online. and our D-line was destroyed this year was rough. idk.I think we need to draft WR, O-line , and D-line first. stay with Hoyer and Shaw and idk about JFF yet....cutler?? lol idk maybe but he his A. Dalton equal ....hit or miss...just like Horyer. I really like Kyle's off. system

@dawgpound101 said:

haha. yea I agree I really love some stuff hoyer does when our offense is balanced. and then sometimes I'm saying WTF? did you through that ball for? and some are just straight up bad throws...under thrown, overthrown. yea pisses me off got me cussin' at home

but I have seen more than one moment when I am saying..hmm Tom Bradyish style and throw on the money

@clevfan4life said:

well the thing is Hoyer started making some throws that you simply cannot excuse on bad protection. And it wasn't just one or two, he really started missing badly. On throws that would have won us another game or two at least. He just shit the bed, for whatever reason. He's like Dalton, Dalton looks like such a stud and then if you watched the game tonight you see that he misses very badly on key throws. Watching Dalton tonight reminded me a lot on some of our past qb's including Hoyer.....at times they make clutch throws and then inconceivably miss easy gimme's that no NFL qb should miss more than once or twice a season. Hoyer just started to miss on too many easy throws and naturally it shitcanned his confidence on the big throws. Pettine had to see what he had in JF. It didn't work out but it is what it is...we now know JF is more of a project than we thought.

haha. yea I agree I really love some stuff hoyer does when our offense is balanced. and then sometimes I'm saying WTF? did you through that ball for? and some are just straight up bad throws...under thrown, overthrown. yea pisses me off got me cussin' at home

stoolies had two pot heads on their team this year

@jcam222 said:

I like Bradford. I believe on a decent team he can be a stud.

we are not a decent team yet...

@diehardbrownsfan said:

5-11 is always more impressive then 7-9. Especially if JFF is the one losing the games........

???

has anybody here actually taken into consideration our record pre and post Alex Mack??? at all?? we have had, I believe 4 starting Centers this year. anybody wondering why our season took a shit at that peticular moment? i think as a QB and you're running for your life every play than yea bad things happen...everytime. Hoyer is really good when our run game was in the top 5 and play action was lights out even without Gordon...Alex Mack stays healthy...who knows

thoughts from the Dawgpound

@kvoethe said:

We had a 21 pont lead last week with a quarter to go and no one could even relax and say it was in the bag. All everyone could say was "dont fuck it up".

We the fans are tentative, why wouldnt the rest of the league?

haha I said dont fuck it up til the last two minutes...just saying we are used to blowing leads and losing games like that...here is to breaking the cycle

@douche-nozzle said:

I love to help the handicapped. Go to the internet, type S_T_E_E_L_E_R_S and you will find a bunch of them. Good luck skippy.

haha that is kinda funny...but really a few things here folks...one if we cannot stop Levon Bell or Antonio Brown it will be a long fucking day for us..at the same token if they cannot stop Tate or Cameron, Hawkins, or Gaberial...they are in for a long ass game...damn this one will be closer than most think for sure. my prediction here is Browns 27 Steelers 24..honest Abe here...but pay back for kicking our kicker in the face is coming believe that shit...expect some pushing and shoving in this one

not sure what to do with our defense

I posted this on another forum..justin gilberts replacement plays one hell of game...I know who this kid is now and i like him