@one-post said:You and only you could name a black mobile qb in the days of Tarkenton. Stepping aside from the humor, in the days of Tarkenton there were only a couple of black QBs in the entire league. James Harris and Joe Gilliam come to mind. I think there were a couple in the league earlier...but I don't think they started or played much. Marlin Briscoe? Then, of course, you have to go back to 1920, Akron Pros. NFL champions. Quarterback: Fritz Pollard. African-American.

@browns1216 said: Hopefully the Browns don't let the glare of the QB need blind them into reaching for a QB when there are so many other picks that could step in and make the team better right away\ Except....hardly ANYONE BUT a QB can do that. No DL, no OL, no DB can do that only a QB. To be better right away this team would need 4-5 good defensive players. . Kessler did better than expected last season, I don't see any of this year's QBs beating him out. I do see someone like Garrett making an immediate impact on improving the lackluster pass rush from last year. Getting a bit of a better pass rush however will not get this team any more wins. Not really. It means they may "win" a few more plays....but not a few more games. Sure, it don't hurt, but it is by no means a measure of success in the way we would want. Can't pass on Garrett to draft someone with 13 college starts, Trubisky could be good, but he's too much of an unknown and what is known of him is not impressive enough for #1 overall. Who knows what the Browns will do tomorrow night. Only one more day of waiting... You look for the unknown.....and ignore the "knowns": Marino like quick release. Quick decision making, accuracy, great on the move, soft touch when needed. We KNOW these things. What don't we know? His favorite color, his favorite food, his favorite band, his favorite book.

@ghoolie said:My wife? LOL. That is a classic. My wife is a babe, and trust me, way the fuck above your pay scale. She happens to think Browns fans are the dumbest fucking people on the face of the earth. So, ah....good luck with that one. So what does this tell us?? You are in theory at least a Browns fan. You reference her requiring a certain level of income as well. Considering she apparently thinks you're a dumbfuck one can only draw a logical conclusion as to why she's with you and it's not your ginormous penis LOL.

In all my years I never imagined I'd come across (no pun intended) a person whose frame of reference included conversing with "Gonorrhea pus"....

@wargograw said:People really still get mad about "fag"? They should be forced to join this board. The issue is that at no point did anything within him go "Self, perhaps it would not be a great idea to post this" between the time that [whatever] happened and when he pushed the tweet button. That lack of insight into how actions are perceived by others affects everything, personal or professional.

@tour2ma said: Holy fuck... Who was it that said they couldn't get more erect? Archer .gif I posted a.while ago.

@mld-woody said:We've got three assistants making a million or more. I don't think they're overpaid They are all overpaid. Give some of that money to the guys doing like cancer research.

@tim-couch-pulls-out said: "Liking" JG and "rating him higher than any other QB" is different. I hope he did rate him higher than any other QB. Let him take him SF. That just gives us a better chance at getting Garrett AND a top QB. Yes it is, but I'm pretty sure I read a quote that stated Shanahan had a first round grade on JG, and wanted him above all else. I'll try and find it.

Have to say Ghoolie is almost talking football for a change... @flyingfooldoug said:Now this had nothing to do with CBS. The pregame radio show spent a fair amount of time discussing the fact that Hue had very little if anything at all in the Kessler pick and was a bit ticked the sashthepud made that pick without consulting him. I haven't heard more about it since but in the big picture... I see it. And now Hue himself will be the talent guy. So our gm now consists of JimmyDee, Stosh, Pud, and Andy hue? This should work well. And if anyone thinks that JimmyDee don't have anything to do with talent selection because they say so.....Hahahahahahehehehehohohoho. That report so flies in the face of the war room shot when the Kess pick was announced it defies belief. I can still see Hue in my mind's eye smiling and pumping his fist as the pick was announced.

@medicineman said:How many games did Kessler win for us? From what we have now, we don't know what we have now because our Oline is shotty, And Our D is a joke. Sit tight peeps. Things will get better. Hue knows a lot more than any of us. What we do know is Kessler can't throw any further than a checkdown.

@vagitron said: . His mechanics can be fixed and he knows they aren't great. I think with time to learn he could end up being the best QB in this class, easy. WOW! Last time I saw this kid at the combines, he looked sleepier than Dracula in daylight. The first thing that came to mind was does someone want to get this kid a cup of coffee to power down? This kid's arm doesn't look sleepy at all. Who said he has a weak arm? I haven't seen that many lasers off the back foot since Brett Favre turned unique into common place up in GB. He's got really good vision and pocket presence I was not expecting. There's also a slight blend of Tony Romo in this guy... Here I was talking myself into an alternative like Webb later in the draft and now I see why this kid beat him out. I'll be honest, I was dismissing him up until now.

I'm not a "Whore-ton" fan.. He can go...

@clevfan4life said: Im glad kirksey is flowing to the ball but it has alot to do with demario taking on blockers. Everytime they've shown a replay that involved the lb'ers davis is the one shedding properly. But thats how it should work. Remember how the ravens used elletbe to extend lewis's career? Without him rar ray would have had to retire earlier cause he couldnt fight off blocks anymore I never looked at it like that Clevs. It's an interesting theory though. I just looked at it like Kirksey has way better first step instinct than Demario so he's not nearly as easy to block. That's also a reflection on how well he prepares himself through the week. Furthermore, I think the schematic is to have the defensive line tie up/take on blockers rather than a LBer. I could be wrong on that though. Kirksey makes a lot of his tackles exactly where you want him to - up against the point of attack. That doesn't seem to happen nearly as much with Demario. The same thing applied with the instincts/experience of Ray Lewis in comparison to that of Ellerbe. Ray Lewis had some of the best instincts I've ever seen. On top of that, nobody out-prepared the guy in the film room to the extent he often looked like he knew our playbook better than half the guys starting in our offense. He didn't need Ellerbe at all IMO; but he did enjoy how well guys like Siragusa and Ngata commanded attention in front of him to further assure nobody would block him. The best way we blocked him 1 year was when we trap blocked his side of the field and the tackle came down to shield/wall him off. One of the rare times I noticed he didn't anticipate/see something coming. While Kirksey has a way to go before we compare his instincts to a HOF LBer, I've enjoyed tapping his productivity in my fantasy football league that counts tackles and tackles for losses. I see why he played his way to a team captain/leadership role for Kirk Ferentz. I love the way he prepares, which is a good thing for some of our lesser experienced guys on defense to learn from. I remember back when we had Scott Fujita and we ran Jauron's 43 scheme. The best thing he did for D'Qwell Jackson was help him spot his pre-snap keys and tendency tip-offs in the film room reviews for upcoming opponents. IMO, Jackson had his best year vrs the point of attack in Jauron's defense. He got there quicker and appeared to be a lot less blockable.

Lay off the spicy food close to bedtime...

Mitch2Pryor said:Teams can volunteer? I thought hard knocks picks who they want, and teams can only deny if they have a first year coach Any team can volunteer. HBO only gets to select from among non-first-year HC teams, if there are no volunteers. IIRC the Rams volunteered last year.