@topdawg31 said:

I want Cody to succeed but these ridiculous comments that he outplayed anyone are just that. Captain checkdown, Mr. 2 yrd and out was horrible.

What evidence do you have to back up the claim that he was horrible?

@topdawg31 said:

Lets use the Denver Brock stats if you want to use a anal-litic approach

So Brock with the Broncos: 10 TDs 6 INTs 86.4 rating with the best team in the NFL that year.

Cody still slightly outperformed him with the WORST team in the NFL

@topdawg31 said:

Sadly Osweiler is our best QB heading into training camp

We can agree to disagree. Brock couldn't get it done with a top 5 defense and a top 5 receiver. 72.2 rating 15 TDs 16 INTs

Cody Kessler outplayed him with the leagues worst defense, arguably the worst O-line, and a leading receiver who used to be a QB. 92.3 rating 6 TDs 2 INTs

The most likely scenario is that Cody wins the job in the preseason and starts week one. So he will certainly get his chance with a presumed improved O-line and defense.

I personally believe he will ultimately be a back up in Cleveland because of Hue's emphasis on the deep ball, a trait that Cody lacks.

Orange Ogres

Lol.. I'm 25 man you guys wouldn't understand

@tour2ma said:

DKA 2 Day?

DK All Day

Probably not that many Hip Hop heads here, (REAL hip hop, not the garbage today) but rappers from Brooklyn show pride in their home by saying BK all day. It's like a catch phrase.

So I changed it to DK (Deshone Kizer) All day

@flyin-j said:

The name should be *Osweiler2Britt.

Include the asterisk.

Post of the year

@ghoolie said:

Not dumb at all.

In fact, I have predicted in no uncertain terms that Garrett WILL get injured in his rookie season. Picking the game is kind of silly, but the logic and analytical data lend him very well to getting injured. Let's look at why.

1) He has a huge ego. When he comes to learn that NFL OL can man handle him, it will mess with his pea brain. He will be frustrated and try to over pursue to "PRIVE" he was the best pick in the draft.

2) He is not smart, and the Browns are not very smart. Opposing defenses will scheme to cut him down and wear him out. They will run decoys in which he thinks an edge rush is called for, and he will be left holding a bag of air.

3) Without a QB, WRs Tes or RBs the Browns defense will be on the field too much. Fatigue will punish him.

Trust me, your post is a good one. I don't think you quite understood why it was such a good post, but I gave you some substance for why the odds on garrett being inured before game 8 are very, very, exceptionally good. If I could lay a Bet in Vegas for less than the $100,000 such a bet would require, I would do it. I would certaily bet $1000 at 3 - 1.

Oh, he'eel get hurt. Trust me. It's coming.

Just like Pryor got hurt last year, right? You're good at predicting Browns failure, anyone can do that. You're 0 for 1 on injury predictions. The jury is still out on Paxton and Mitch. Cool your jets.

Where the fuck do you get this notion that Myles Garrett is stupid? The man is going to be a paleontologist when he's done with football. He an avid reader, painter and poet. Watching an interview would lead anyone with social intelligence to see that Myles Garrett is very bright. But of course, you don't need to be smart to be a paleontologist. Sashi Brown, a Harvard Law grad is also stupid. Same with DePodesta. No one is as smart as the Ghoolie.

@tour2ma said:

It's simply where the work was...

... and you can't anywhere...

Petroleum Industry? I have a weakness for Latinas man I'd be paying a lot of child support if I lived down there.

It won't let me upload the video for some reason..

But basically some cliff notes:

-Njoku has a limitless ceiling

-They see Peppers as a more athletic Roman Harper and will utilize him the same way Gregg utilized Harper in New Orleans

-Berry's "favorite" 3rd day pick was Howard Wilson. Thinks he has all the physical tools to be a dominant corner, just needs to refine his game

-They are already heavily involved in scouting for next year's draft class

@taco918 said:

So would VagiDicklie work? Or would you prefer Ghootertron?

@taco918 said:

So would VagiDicklie work? Or would you prefer Ghootertron?

Ha I'll take KizerPermanente before I take any of those

@tour2ma said:

From? Yes... went to school with Gib Shanley's son and was a couple o' three years ahead of DieHard thru Jr and Sr High.

In? Not for decades... moved to Houston area in the mid-70's "for a few years"...

Appreciate you taking the time to reply.

I don't blame you for staying down there.. my buddy just moved there and he tells me he's never coming back. He says you can't beat the women and weather.

I recorded an interesting interview with Andrew Berry that had a few gems, I'll post it up in this thread when I get the chance.

Wasn't sure who to contact, so mods feel free to delete/move this. I feel it is now appropriate to formally request a name change, seeing as I'm 0 for 2. Can it be changed to M2P? Thanks in advance

I'm not a Steelers fan, I already had a security clearance so please don't change it to anything like Vagitron, Rooster Dick, or God forbid Ghoolie

@tour2ma said:

Overall draft?

Myles?

Kizer?

Peppers?

Others?

Didn't realize you weren't from Cleveland, Tour.

Everyone is on board with the Myles Garrett pick. Even Ken Carman, who was in love with Trubisky, wanted us to take Garrett 1 and then trade up for Mitch.

As for Kizer, the talking heads are warming up to the idea. Buying into his potential as a pro, and the way he's handled himself so far (saying all the right things) has helped his case. Right now the main discussion with Kizer is whether or not he should play this year. One school of thought amongst some hosts is to give him time to acclimate to the game. The others argue that because of our draft capital next year (and a supposed better QB class) we need to know wether Kizer is our guy or not headed into next year's draft.

Dustin Fox is a host who actually played DB in the league and he loves the Peppers pick. He says that Peppers is one of those guys who loves the game, is a great team player and leader. He references the fact that Peppers cried when he got drafted as a strong positive. I usually take his opinion more into account because he has first hand knowledge of the league. He also loves how Peppers did anything the coaches asked him. Playing multiple positions could've potentially hurt his development in one position for the NFL, but instead of complaining he did everything the coaches asked him.

No one else specifically has really been talked about. Just that we have an affinity for Sparq scores, and Njoku fits the mold of young and athletic.

They touched on the Brantley pick, whether or not we are in a position to take a chance like that.

Granted I only listen in the mornings on my way to work and then on my way home.

Lol well he's definitely going to have the "M" sound at one...

We will then see if it's Myles or Mitchell

@ghoolie said:

Because he is a smart, polite kid. Dude, you don't speak out of school.

Garrett isn't his own man, Fuck, he isn't even a man. He is another urban jackoff. The ONLY reason he backed off is because his agent educated him on how much money it is going to cost him if the Browns pass. And make no mistake, if the Browns pass, they won't be alone. Total waste of a pick.

https://twitter.com/chasepwilliams/status/830188382634463232/video/1

Myles Garrett is no raptard, or urban jackoff. Football aside (I don't want him at 1 either), he actually is extremely intelligent, and intends to be a paleontologist after football. He actually doesn't like rap, prefers a strong variety off blues, jazz etc. his brother used to play rap all the time and he would shut his door and put on other music. He's also a poet and painter and avid reader. But yeah, on the football field, he seems like a bust to me too.

@stinkhole said:

You're not going to like to hear this but I think Ghoolie is right yet again.

Five players most likely to take a tumble in the draft.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/five-players-most-likely-to-take-a-huge-tumble-in-nfl-draft/ar-BBAjdF4?li=BBnb7Kz&ocid=UE13DHP

Kizer is falling down draft boards like a rock.

DeShone Kizer, quarterback, Notre Dame

Before those who analyze talent started taking a deep dive into the 2017 NFL Draft, Kizer was seen as a guy who, along with Deshaun Watson, might be the top quarterback taken this year. Fast forward a few months and not only will Kizer almost certainly not be selected in the first round, but he could slide all the way into the third roundor further.

Maturity issues are one reason. One AFC head coach reportedly thinks Kizer has diva qualities, and the quarterback recently waffled back and forth about comments he made saying he was like a mix of Tom Brady and Cam Newton (more on that here).

Then theres the matter of his NFL readiness. His own head coach at Notre Dame doesnt think Kizer is a polished product and says he should have stayed in school, which Kizer shockingly said he agreed with. His numbers from last season indicate this is the truth as well. Kizer led a team that went 4-8 while completing just 58.7 percent of his passes (yuck) and made some baffling late-game decisions.

Kizer is falling down draft boards like a rock.

The Steelers are looking to draft Kizer. That's all you need to know about him. Their next Big Ben

@ghoolie said:

Mitch Trubisky. Kizer is shit waiting to splat. " Something bout Him"

Paxton Lynch at 1 LOL

https://www.google.com/amp/s/den.247sports.com/Bolt/Mark-Schlereth-Siemian-head-and-shoulders-above-Paxton-Lynch-52445750/Amp

Let's go ahead and make a thread where you state who you think will be the BEST QB in this draft class, and also which will be the biggest bust.

I'll go ahead and start:

Best QB: Kizer.

There's some people that you just look at them and see greatness. He is one of them.

Biggest bust: Mahomes

He has the most potential, but I don't see him being able to put it all together. Someone is going to pick him hoping to have their franchise guy, and be very disappointed.

(Btw, insiders say Jets are very high on Mahomes, and might trade down and nab him in the middle of the first)