what's the CLE/pit record now? it has to be within a game or two...especially regular season. i think we fell back a few all-time. in my view, we don't need to run 10 straight on them for dignity's sake, just tip it in our favor again "all-time". their recent run of wins was a nice feather in the cap of this decade's team, but overall record is the real rivalry. a great start to being competitive again. LMAO @ soggy cereal in CLE. Rich Eisen is tops.

@hardy-har-har said:if you could win 7 Super Bowls then you'd be better.. enough nonsense about winning two games in a season and you still have the 2nd half to play. Ben is 10-0 against the browns Seven? We already have almost double that number of championships. Why would we want to back to only 7?

@ebenezer said:Now if only the rest of the team can get concussed and retire we might have a shot at being decent next year. Please read this again, it no doubt sounds like a 10 year old wrote it.

@joesixpat said:Then you absolutely don't want to know that the NFL named the AFC Championship Trophy in honor of one of the original and best "cheaters" in the league... the godfather of spying if you willl... Just warning you... do NOT read this article if you prefer to operate under your current delusion. http://www.thesportgallery.com/sport-stori...aug-nflspy.html @pumpkin-eater said:I would guess that he expects his friends not to cheat against him. Because real friends wouldn't. You do have to stop and ask yourself... do you think Vince Lombardi know about all the stuff going on in the NFL when he was playing? Do you think all those guys cheating were fooling him? I think he probably did know about those practices. Heck, he may have engaged in his own "gamesmanship" too. Yet I don't recall ever hearing about Lombardi ratting out other coaches. I wonder why that is? I wonder why Mangini's really the only coach I can remember accusing two separate head coaches he once was friends with of cheating... or firing another former friend as GM... No other coaches are coming to mind for me... how about you?

Im not trying to bring anybody down but Quinn had 1 good game against a terrible team. At this point I still would like to see what we have at third string

@ebenezer said:It's not as bad as I made it sound. It's bad, but not that bad. I watched the video, and you're right, not really really bad. I thought this was gonna rank up there with the Joe Theismann injury on MNF. Not sure we'll ever see as gruesome an injury as that.

@medicineman said:I was defending Mangini for most of the season trying to get people to give him a chance. He is a hard on. Its either his way or noway and thats what a spoiled little brat would do. He gets rid of both Winslow and Edwards. Now I must say I was kinda happy to see Winslow go but I really miss how he could catch the ball. And yes Braylon did drop easy passes but he still drew double or even triple coverage. Not 1 of the receivers we have now can do that. Im fed up with this crap. We can't even get 3 touchdowns in a single game. dude we can't even get 1 touchdown in a game, lets not get greedy and ask for 3!