@ibleedbrown said: Shoot, no worries. Football is a messy sport and it’s gotta be tough to officiate.  I like the Packers ok. I know the residents own the team like shareholders which means they’ll never leave Green Bay. Big envy for that amongst us older Browns fans. @gbfan2011 said: Apologize that I offended a couple people with my refs comment. I shouldnt have said that. The GB long time kicker Mason Crosby was a guy I saw play in H.S. near me. First time I saw him kick about a 50 yarder it went out the back of the endzone beyond the lights. I contacted A&M to go scout him because he reminded me of our barefooted kicker there, Tony Franklin. But he went to Colorado instead were he was sensational there too making 1st team AA. He actually was spotted playing soccer here and asked by the Georgetown High football coach to come try out for the football team. The rest is history.

@gumby73 said: HELL YES WE ARE

all day long brother.

Zombo said: I think he is actually "week to week". The rest of the team is good enough to win, it's all on him. Or as I like to call it: "The Year of Drinking Heavily" Zombo or as in my case as a fan of the browns "The 3 and a half decades of drinking heavenly."

The Packers were also my "adopted" team when the Browns were on hiatus, but for a couple of different reasons: A. My wife is from Wisconsin, and though she could really care less about football my father-in-law is a "Packer Backer", so, it was a family thing. B. Because the Packers are essentially owned by the city, and we all know what distaste we all showed over the "greedy owner", and we all knew that a town owned team like the Packers was not going to be moved by some inept greedy owner. (of course, that situation hasn't really changed. The "greedy NFL owner" is still alive and well and with us. The vacancy here in Cleveland was used by innumerable NFL owners to blackmail their cities into building new stadiums, including the likes of Mike Brown others. Now see what happens with the city of LA prepared to build a new stadium. There will be several "greedy owners" using LA as a means of blackmailing cities for new stadium deals. Start with Jacksonville, go to Minnesota, then to San Diego, and not least of all, Al Davis and the Raiders. And one of those will almost certainly move there.