Thanks JD. Great read. Nice to see this when discussing schemes/ formations: Left Defensive Tackle/Nose Tackle: The Left Defensive Tackle lines up directly over the Center. Desired Skills: same as Left End, but bigger. Can sacrifice some mobility for strength/size. Probably at least 320lbs and strong. NFL ideal: Shaun Rogers, Probable Brown playing the position: Shaun Rogers Wish we had a few more. p.s. Everytime we (I) saw Pollymouthfull blitz or fake a blitz, he'd line up in that SS position of the 46. I hope Abe can fill the role (I think he can). Cover 2: I imagine Robaire & Rogers will be swapping - I just cant see Robaire sliding out into the flats to cover an RB/FB. Rogers can (and has).

@riffer-x said: Could be that time of year to have a moronic discussion on how the kicker sucks because he missed a couple in his career. Most Extra Points – Career 641 Lou Groza (1950-59, 1961-67) 432 Don Cockroft (1968-80) 248 Matt Bahr (1981-89) 195 Phil Dawson (1999-2006) 156 Matt Stover (1991-95) 44 Sam Baker (1960-61) Most Field Goals – Career 234 Lou Groza (1950-59, 1961-67) 216 Don Cockroft (1968-80) 156 Phil Dawson (1999-2006) 143 Matt Bahr (1981-89) 108 Matt Stover (1991-95) 14 Jerry Kauric (1990) Most Field Goals – Season 29 Matt Stover (1995) 27 Phil Dawson (2005) 26 Matt Stover (1994) 24 Phil Dawson (2004) 24 Matt Bahr (1988) 24 Matt Bahr (1984) 23 Lou Groza (1953) 22 Phil Dawson (2002) 22 Phil Dawson (2001) 22 Don Cockroft (1973) 22 Don Cockroft (1972) 22 Lou Groza (1964) Most Field Goals – Game 6 Phil Dawson (11/05/2006 at San Diego Chargers) 5 Phil Dawson (01/02/2005 at Houston Texans) 5 Matt Stover (10/29/1995 at Cincinnati Bengals) 5 Don Cockroft (10/19/1975 at Denver Broncos) 4 Phil Dawson (10/08/2006 at Carolina Panthers) 4 Phil Dawson (09/19/2004 at Dallas Cowboys) 4 Phil Dawson (09/08/2002 vs. Kansas City Chiefs) 4 Phil Dawson (11/25/2001 vs. Cincinnati Bengals) 4 Phil Dawson (11/12/2000 vs. New England Patriots) 4 Matt Stover, 4 times, most recent (12/17/1995 vs. Cincinnati Bengals) 4 Don Cockroft, 4 times, most recent (09/02/1979 at New York Jets) Most Consecutive Games Field Goal Made 14 Lou Groza (1950) 10 (1951) 4 Most Consecutive Field Goals Made 27 Phil Dawson (2003) 10 (2004) 17 23 Matt Stover (1994) 20 (1995) 3 21 Phil Dawson (2001) 15 (2002) 6 20 Phil Dawson (2004) 5 (2005) 15 16 Don Cockroft (1974) 11 (1975) 5 Highest Field Goal Percentage – Career (minimum 50 attempts) 82.10 Phil Dawson (1999-2006); 156-190 80.60 Matt Stover (1991-95); 108-134 74.09 Matt Bahr (1981-89); 143-193 65.85 Don Cockroft (1968-80); 216-328 58.10 Lou Groza (1950-59, 1961-67); 233-401 Highest Field Goal Percentage – Season (minimum 14 attempts) 93.10 Phil Dawson (2005); 27-29 92.86 Matt Stover (1994); 26-28 88.46 Lou Groza (1953); 23-26 88.00 Phil Dawson (2001); 22-25 87.88 Matt Stover (1995); 29-33 87.50 Matt Bahr (1983); 21-24 87.50 Don Cockroft (1974); 14-16 I believe he's 7th all time in accuracy right now. It is stupid to think a guy like Dawson should be relaced. We have a good kicker - looking for a replacement shouldn't be an option. The last thing you want to do as a front office is look for a kicker. Unless you've found one in the draft that is better, you sign Dawson. He probably has 8-10 years left in him. He is a good guy. He is a good Brown. Lets keep someone here their whole career!

@wvbrownsfan said:I agree with the masses, he's good on PTI but not in the booth. They'll still never beat the good ol' days of MNF with Gifford, Dandy Don and Cossell though. Yup- that trio was classic. Miller was bad, Kornheiser was worse. Fortunately, Myron Cope and Curt Gowdy are dead. Listening to Gruden interview with Tirico today- well, I'll give him the benefit of the doubt. He sure has to know more about football than Tony. With Madden retired, there's room at the top for a first rate former coach\analyst.

where's the scenario where DA ISN'T our starting quarterback...

no worries. it got pushed out by stallworth. it's just an internet football board, after all.

Zombo said: Demote our young, promising corner for a guy on the downside that just lost his job ... why? Zombo McDonald is a nickle back period!

not a shocker, suggs is young in his physical prime, Lewis is on the downside really if they were to choose they have to go with the young guy.

Saw this coming. Great LB...very smart. I too was hopeful he'd hit FA. Oh well.

i understand that they did this to save the money of having to franchise a wr, but a kicker. really?

ward will command quite some coin on the FA market this year despite the facts that he's got an injury history, hasn't really proven much, and is kind of old because he was part of such an effective ground attack in new york. however, because we don't have the surrounding RB cast to make him effective, i think we'd be better served going after an almost equally effective player in deshaun foster who likely won't cost nearly as much. the only problem with that is that foster is similar to harrison, which means we have no thunder-type back and have to hope we end up with either shonn greene or rashad jennings in the second (or third if we get a third and jennings falls that far).

Why was BE not benched last year, cause we did not have a receiver riding the pine that had the resume, so to speak like Quinn did at the QB position. Had we had a say Crabtree riding the pine and BE was not benched then you would have a valid point GIPS. Yes DA is a good QB, is he great no. But he is a good QB that is done in Cleveland, and I think that feeling is mutual! Had we not drafted Quinn, I think DA would get one more year. But we did so he does not. That is the way it is.

@jewdago said:looks like we're going to have more competition to find good defensive players. http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/sports/37831269.html it's not a huge deal, but it's worth knowing. it'll definitely affect how the draft shakes out. Actually it is a big deal JD its already a crowded market for very specific types of realitively rare players and it just got more crowded..im hopefull we will use a split base defense 3-4 with a lot of 4-3 schemes because if we cant get at least one more awesome 3-4 lineman and one true 3-4 olb and one true 3-4 ilb we may not improve much and our scouts obviously cant compete with the steelers and patriots to find those unseen talents...

One of my biggest issues with RAC was his inability to make halftime adjustments and it scares me that the Jets fans have the same complaints about Mangini.

Now there's something you don't see every Sunday in Cleveland! A deep ball, a catch, and an offensive TD. I thought the season was over. Why are teams playing in January? This must be the Pro Bowl?

nothing has mattered since they started 0-3 few teams make playoffs after that evaluations went out the window w/ quinns season rucker = typical browns player08

@flugel said:Awesome topic JD! I actually posted something similar preseason or maybe it was earlier in the regular season. Anyway, I saw the personnel to use a 4-3. Williams came from a 4-3. Tennessee uses the 4-3 and that's what we pulled Robaire out of. Rogers played in a 4-3 before coming here. I think Wimbley might have better success standing up and coming in off outside X stunts where he isn't being blocked by the best athlete on the opponent's oline every single play. Jackson would probably get touched less frequently by Centers if we had Shaun Smith and Shaun Rogers going Sumo and Slamo on the G-C gaps. That said, a few weeks ago it was either Gannon, Beuerline or Randy Cross pointing out we had 4 guys with a hand down up front on every play so he said the Browns are not in a 3-4 right now. On the replay he showed you only have 2 backers, 4 dlinemen and 5 DBs on the field. I watched the majority of our plays thereafter and he was right. while i agree that wimbley would have greater success if he weren't rushing from the same spot all the time or if he could stunt some, that's something that can be done from the 3-4 if the coach is willing to either move him around or has a creative, blitz-oriented mind. when we go to a four-man line in our nickel package, we're switching to a 2-4-5 and taking a d-lineman out in favor of a third corner. we move our OLBs to the line and have them play with their hands down like traditional DEs. it's pretty much the same thing as a traditional nickel, but the personnel switch is a little different because we're switching out a d-lineman and not a LB. we normally switch out shaun smith for one of our terrible backup corners. one thing that rac hasn't tried that i wish he would is a 3-3-5 with our normal line and pulling andra davis in favor of mike adams and having adams play somewhat of a roaming role as a hybrid third corner/outside linebacker. the big difference might be that d'qwell would be less exposed to having a center or guard come after him, but rogers always swallows at least two guys on any given play unless they let him run himself out of it, so there's minimal exposure to d'qwell as it is. switching schemes entirely would set us back personnel-wise, and i don't think that's something we can afford at this point. we need a creative defensive mind who can draw up a scheme that works with the people we have, someone like rex ryan.

Cool, den you be a man...................and we can continue in mortal combat or divine love...........or sumtim in between in any case we need to clean house and fire every person in management below the owner..........and if he sold the team it would a good thing

it's hard to invade someone's stadium when you're only going to watch your team lose.

@hiwaygal said:Seems to me the FO should mostly be quiet, do their jobs, and not be the ones seeking headlines in the media. I am continually amazed at the complete lack of professionalism of the people in this team. Exactly. On both points. This fooking team needs an enema. Why wait? Why hope this crap changes? Problem is some of these guys needs a kick in the balls to wipe that stupid grin off thier faces. Start playing football or hit the road, it's that simple.

@ Greythan - Of course you are right that our Time of Possession differential is mostly due to our lack of a run defense. My concern is that plenty of our opponent's drives have continued after we had them in 3rd and long (or really long) where rushing the ball wasn't really an option. That's where our lack of pressure keeps us on the field...that and we can't tackle. Rushing three on Peyton Manning, Roethlisberger and even Donovan McNabb is a fairly daunting prospect. It seems to be begging to go score for score with them and their defenses appear better equipped for that eventuality. Totally on the same page. I was speaking in a very isolated manner regarding our scheme for Edwards on Monday. We've tried it against more seasoned QB's that flat out can't be confused if given 4+ seconds in the pocket regardless of how many you get in coverage. It doesn't work. Its Elway driving against us all over again. You can't be a good defense until you become at least moderately good at pressuring the QB when the situation calls for it.