@lumbergh said:Sanchez throws pick #5 on the day. I'll give him a pass though, he said he's not used to the mid 40 degree temps. He's from SoCal...then went to USC...he's never even practiced in weather below 50 degrees. Still a pretty poor performance from the QB.

Maybe this is the first step in selling the team and or having BK become GM. Now that he is broke he needs to work and he keeps saying its in the NFL. soooo.. maybe this is step one?

so what is DA throws a TD pass..he's likely to thow 4 more int's... I'll take quinn.. DA in all his starts has only beaten ONE team with a winning record.. not something to brag about... My problem with DA is last week he made all the same mistakes he made in the past.. He will have to show me to get me to change my mind..and not just one game.

@gips said:So much for the one size fits all offense i saw DA get standard 4 and 5 Wr sets while bq was forced to do mangini's bidding in a lousy non spread set.. You gotta wonder why they don't play BQ with the 4 and 5 receiver sets... could it be that he sucks even worse at it than DA?

@mr.-t said:Who said that he couldn't catch? look at this One Handed Estandia Son of a....... We knew it was coming. The dirty bath water has to be drained. The latest domino to fall. Let's keep hoping he knows what he's doing. It's not like making Savage look dumb at this point is difficult Survivor: Cleveland. Know the best thing about that video clip Mr. T? The ticker at the bottom showing the brownies with the lead baby!!!!! It also showed BE with over 100 yards and 2 td's. ......hmmmmmmm.......... Wonder who was throwing the ball to him???????? :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: Yay me! I just took a completely sane thread and turned it into the inevitable DA/BQ brawl!!!!!!!!! Let the hate start spewing!!!!!

@ballpeen said:Maybe so WPBD....but much of the numbers came in "who cares" time. having been at the game....it didn't look very good to be honest.....but 1 game doesn't tell the tale. DA had the same opportunity to pad his stats in "who cares" time in what 27 starts? Maybe he did, and that's why his QBR is as lofty as it is.

QUOTE (Lumbergh @ Aug 15 2009, 08:36 PM) chances like that gem don't come along too often. Well, at least for DA they don't.

Derek used to be a Beaver. Perhaps that's why he's so used to things not going the way they were planned. Of course, it could be almost as bad being a Duck. Pooch looks kinda like one of the Huskies doesn't he? . . . and my apologies to the many wonderful people in the great state of Oregon. (The college football season is coming too.) We do know on the Brownsboard that the individual passing himself off as Lumbergh does not represent you very well. He needs a series of scheduled visits with one of the followers of Freud.

@riffer-x said:It's really a ruse. The interest is all for Derek Bear but Mancock is playing it off with all their info that it's for Queen just to piss Lumtucky off. Come on Flugs, you know better. PS I wish Mancock would quit spilling their "gyutts" out so much. LOL! Lumtucky is getting all achey breaky heartsy over the reality that nobody would even offer up 1 waterboy or peanut vendor for his man. Greater than zero but less than Frye. Yay! - Tom F.

@scram-jet said:+1 Saved me the time to type up a virtually identical response. On a side note, not trying to be a grammar police or anything but I just found it odd and amusing that "insistence" was spelled in two different ways in the same sentence. Typing w/o thinking will do that....lol

TheJokersWILD said:What about all the guy's with their lips stitched to DA's xxxx. They all want Quinn GONE after 3 games and thier boy got a season and a half and lost his job. All I want if for Quinn to get his chance, if he fails ship him out get the next guy. Personally I would trade DA for a McDonald's cheeseburger just to get rid of Lumberg and all the loyal DA fans. I am a BROWNS FAN, I don't care what the guys name is under center as long as he can win games. CHEESEBURGER ANYONE??? Damn, I'm still craving that cheeseburger >

...McCown fags. Garcia is a PRO BOWLER!!!!11!!ONE!

@greythan said:Can we afford to keep two tradable QB's (if indeed both are)? I don't think so. My bet is that DA is dealt for whatever value we can get and its Quinn's team. I hope BQ is really good or we'll be back in the QB sweepstakes in a year or two. is this from the same logic that you talked about last year they were going to trade and not sign DA? Or when they go ahead and cut the third and 4th string QB's to leave the team with only 2 qbs in the first season of a new coach and gm with quinn only playing 3 regular season games to mediocrity showing no where near enough data for a new team to bet their future on? I am sure they will go ahead and trade a guy who did win 10 games in a season and played a great game against the giants showing some possible glimpses at what he might be... that makes perfect sense considering the amount of money they have tied up in the qb position they can clearly afford thanks to BQ's holdout paying him backup money. 100+ million dollar business like to bet it all when they dont have too.

@thedawgs said:how on earth could one think with a h.c. coaching change ,,the crowd chanting brady-brady,, and booing when anderson comes on the field,, and cheering when he gets injured ,,could think the front office,, or new coach,, would bring him back on the field and try to shove him down a already weak fan bases throat,,that would be totally assanine by any owner of any sports team period..lets face it the browns fans far exceeding this board want quinn period... No kidding. Not to mention Steelers fans who will tell you they'd rather see DA because they know Quinn is better, and will say it. I have run into so many non-Browns fans who ask "why the hell is DA starting"

Pioli & co may still hold a grudge against Mangini from the whole Spygate controversy.

You think Quinn would have scored on the Steelers? Are you xxxxING MAD??? The Browns haven't scored since xxxxing Halloween, what makes you think they are going to score against the best defense? This was the Browns Superbowl, and they are getting destroyed.

Under a new regime im sure DS will do nicely on the bench as a 3rd slot backup if randy has to keep him as he really lacks the speed and the hands to be more..hopefully lerner will give the new regime the ability to rid the team of such wasted roster spots without a long drawn out process if he cant cut it even if randy has to eat a bunch of bucks it still would set a solid foundation that says to others if you are going to stay in cleveland and get pay you have to play hard and contribute.. DS was another savage screw up that cost lerner an arm and a leg for way less capability then sanders has if he was actually mentored this kid is fast but needs to catch the ball more reliably of course on that thought all of our recievers need to quit being twats and catch the ball more reliably but you have to have real coaching first and a realistic system for dealing with crybabies and mental breakdowns huh? And braylon"butterfingers"edwards basicly cost DA his job as starter and the browns their season mostly due to a shallow predictable playbook and an unfounded stupidity by chud and or DA that if he threw it to butterfingers in double and triple coverage he would somehow come down with it while an uncovered steptoe was streaking the other sideline or middle... Braylon often looked like he wasnt even trying and or was trying to shelter himself from a hit instead of concentrating on bringing the ball in he needs to be reassessed by the new regime as well..

Awesome. Now we're a deleted scene from "the Replacements." I've been searching for a reason to stop cutting Corey Williams some slack and start booing the shit out of his stupid face every time he steps on the field, now I have one. We suck.

@lumbergh said:...It will depend on who the coach is though... I don't know about that. We've heard Lerner likes Quinn over DA. Not sure it matters who the coach is.

@cmac12 said:Flugs, what makes you think the Giants did not bring it on Monday Night football? Because DA played well against the super bowl champion? DA has PROVEN he can be great. And he has proven he can just totally suck. I am hoping for him not to suck and for the browns to win. Are you? Or would you just perfer a higher draft pick? I'll tell you why I think the G-Men didn't bring it that game. Over confidence. That was a total trap game after the way they lit up CLE in the preseason. I think they took CLE lightly, expecting to dominate the way they did in that preseason game, and it bit them in the ass. It happens to teams on every level. By no means to I mean to take away from what CLE and DA did. They took advantage of it, like they should. But the GMen phoned that game in from the start and it quickly got out of hand on them. They learned from that game, obviously. I'd like DA to play well over the next few games. If for no other reason than to make him a more viable trade piece. Because the way he has played since the back half of last season, to now, is lower his value to next to nothing.