How could you not like them? Clean, VIBRANT.. repping Cleveland on the front.. a little bit of pizzaz with the shadowed numbers and stripes for tradition!

I dig em! Orange as our new primary baby!!

I love em!

I just finished this one today. How does it go over with the folks over here on TBB?

This is the photo thats been getting everyone riled up.

-It has the Nike tags for the size, in both places.. and Nike swooshes on the shoulders.

-If you look at the seams you can see its the new jersey material and it has the right "cuts"

-It has the NFL emblem

-Alot of detail, including "Dawg Pound" in the collar... which is what the Browns have been pushing

-It is the new orange color

-It has the new font

-It EVEN has the new dawg pound t-shirts in the background

If these are them. I LIKE IT!

I have always wanted ORANGE Jerseys, The stripes would look MUCH better with the pads on. Supposedly these were "leaked" by a manager at Dicks who got an early shipment in.

They very well could be fakes... but that is ALOT of detail to put into a fake. Especially that there are 2 of them.

Well there go my Hopes for Jaelen Strong

@hounddawg said:

Defensive leaders defending him. Meh. Not impressed. Joe says he was getting things done with his feet in practice. That wouldn't surprise me at all seeing as how this defense couldn't stop the run of any other team this year. Recall the Jacksonville game when a former college QB turned NFL RB ran all over us. So did Jake Locker till he got hurt. I'm not impressed that Johnny made plays with his feet against our d line in practice. He made no mention of lil man throwing the ball well against that secondary in practice. In fact he said..."our defense is very good." Why yes, the SECONDARY is very good and the reports were that he was completing less than 50% of his passes in practice. Adds up right to me.

Joe Haden is an impressive man as is Karlos Dansby. Johnny...not so much.

What is this then?

"He makes things happen. He's a very exciting player. He was throwing the ball really well"

He was extending plays, making plays, making plays down the field, putting the ball where it needs to be. He was making the defense work, so it was a good sight to see.'

Obviously you didnt read it

People saw the tweets and blurbs today and wrote Joe off as just being a nice guy.. but in the full article.. he went WAAAY deeper into it.. take a look

PHOENIX, Ariz. -- Browns cornerback Joe Haden, fresh off the Pro Bowl and making the rounds on radio row at the Super Bowl Wednesday, took exception to one of his teammates anonymously blasting Johnny Manziel last week.

"Johnny is definitely not a joke,'' Haden, who's in town in his new role as a Global Ambassador for the Special Olympics, told Northeast Ohio Media Group. "It's not true at all that Johnny's teammates think he's a 100% joke.''

Haden was referring to a story last week on ESPN.com that quoted an unnamed Browns player saying that Manziel throughout the 2014 season was a "100% joke.''

Haden was bothered by the fact that a teammate would rip Manziel that way, especially without using his name. He pointed out that teammates Donte Whitner and Karlos Dansby constructively criticized rookie Justin Gilbert during the season, but did so on the record.

"That unnamed source thing really gets on my nerves,'' he said.

On the contrary, Haden said the players he interacts on a daily basis really like and support Manziel.

"Oh for sure,'' said Haden. "Everybody. Me, Phil Taylor loves him. Travis (Benjamin) loves him. There's a lot of players on the team that do so I don't really know. You'd have to find that person who said that.''

Haden, who's become friends with Manziel, also disagreed that No. 22 pick did not prepare hard and that he wasn't ready to play.

"For most of the season, he was the backup,'' said Haden. "He was doing what he was supposed to do. (Brian) Hoyer was out there balling, he was the starting quarterback. What do you want him to do? He was the backup.''

Haden said that if Manziel didn't always excel in practice, there was a good reason.

"We have a really good defense, so sometimes it wasn't really Johnny's fault,'' said Haden. "Our defense is really good at practice, so you're not going to just shred us. Of course you're going to have bumps in the road.''

Haden said Manziel looked like Johnny Football to him in practice, and Dansby, who was also doing interviews here Wednesday on radio show, stressed that Manziel gave the defense good looks in practice.

"He makes plays with his feet,'' said Haden. "He makes things happen. He's a very exciting player. He was throwing the ball really well. I didn't really see that (he wasn't practicing well).''

Haden said he watched people pile on to Manziel all season, and now this offseason.

"Johnny takes too much bashing for nothing and the thing is that being a quarterback in the NFL is so much harder,'' he said. "They can't do anything. If Johnny is to do anything that shows him having fun instead of being in the meeting room, they blow him up.''

Haden said he never recalls Manziel being late until he overslept for his treatment the day before the season finale. Manziel was on injured reserve at the time and not eligible to participate in the walk-through.

"He wasn't supposed to be at the walk-through,'' said Haden. "He needed treatment. You're a quarterback, you need treatment, I understand that, definitely. I'm not trying to give him a pass on that, but still, one little treatment and he didn't have to be there. He was on IR. It was probably one of the only times he messed up.''

He said the transgression, like everything else in the life of Johnny Football, becomes larger than life.

"He understands what's going on, and this season he's going to be able to show that a lot better,'' said Haden.

Haden has encouraged him to take some time off during the offseason and not feel pressured to go into a bunker.

"I'm like, 'dude, you still have to live life. You're still a young dude and it is the offseason' and he knows now,'' said Haden. "I've been talking to him about, when the season starts, OTAs, minicamps, he's going to be in there grinding he and knows that he has to stay extra and get it with the new coach (offensive coordinator John DeFilippo) and figure out the systems and all of that. But right now, relax your shoulders.

"Relax, chill, breathe. Because when he comes back, he knows now -- when I hit rock bottom when I got suspended for Adderall, people were coming at me like I've never had that coming at me before and I felt a certain type of way and I just knew then that I needed to change.''

Haden is as convinced as ever that Manziel has what it takes to be a good quarterback.

"For sure, for sure,'' said Haden. "Because he's shown he has the ability. He has the talent. He has all of the tools.''

Thank the lord for Joe Haden..

Dansby also came out with MORE stuff..

PHOENIX, Ariz. -- Browns linebacker Karlos Dansby disputed the notion that Johnny Manziel didn't practice well throughout the season.

"Johnny gave us some great looks,'' Dansby told Northeast Ohio Media Group while making rounds on radio row Wednesday at the Super Bowl. "I can't lie. He was giving us that every day. He was making us better as a defense every day.

"Like I said, it's a different level when you get on the field and you get thrown into the action like that. It's a tough situation for him, not having any reps throughout the whole season and then getting thrown into the fire.''

Manziel, who finished the season on injured reserve with his pulled hamstring, flopped miserably in his first start -- a 30-0 loss to the Bengals in the biggest game of the season, and improved somewhat the following week against the Panthers before leaving the game with the hamstring injury. But all in all, even coach Mike Pettine had to admit that Manziel's two starts "weren't very encouraging'' and that the Browns quarterback outlook is muddy at best.

"When opportunities present themselves you've got to take advantage of it,'' said Dansby. "If you don't, people start to question your character and if this game is for you and that's just how this game goes.''

Dansby, who warned both Manziel and fellow first-rounder Justin Gilbert that they'd be out of the league soon if they didn't dedicate themselves to the game, disagreed with the teammate who told espn.com that Manziel didn't look good in practice this season. He echoed the sentiments of Joe Haden, who saw flashes of Johnny Football in practice, which is probably why the Browns started him against the Bengals.

"He looked great,'' said Dansby. "He was extending plays, making plays, making plays down the field, putting the ball where it needs to be. He was making the defense work, so it was a good sight to see.''

From what Dansby saw every day in practice, when Manziel was primarily simulating the opposing quarterback and running the opponents' plays, he thinks Manziel has what it takes.

"Success,'' said Dansby. "I see success if he works hard at it. The guy is talented. He can be a talented player for a long time to come. He's unique in the way he plays the game and hopefully he can continue to grow and become a better player.''

Dansby said Manziel, like Gilbert, just needs to put it all together.

"They're young and this was their first year,'' he said. "Like I said, they didn't know what to expect going into it, but now they know it's a man's game. And I think they'll make the adjustments, because they have made the adjustments in college to be successful. Hopefully this offseason we'll see the improvement and it will carry over into the season.''

Dansby was also disappointed to hear that All-Pro receiver Josh Gordon violated the substance abuse policy again and is facing banishment from the league for at least a year.

"It's unfortunate,'' he said. "The kid was trying to turn the corner to have a setback like that, we've got to continue to reach out to him and to continue to surround him and be his brothers and be there for him, uplift him and hopefully he can bounce back from this and he can learn from his mistakes.''

Clearly this isnt them just toeing the "team line" and "being nice"

No its not a case of "What else are they going to say..."

Because they did not have to go that far with it and you know it.

No.. Im saying Im baffled about how people here somehow think Manziel is worse off the field than Winston..

The hate is insane

Brady is the GOAT.. no questions asked..

You need the stats.. AND the rings..

and he has both.

Its really between him and Peyton.. they both put up over 50 TDs in a season, but Brady has the rings

You guys are insane...

Alleged Rape, Theft, and Disorderly Conduct

is somehow worse than

NO ARRESTS, Going to Parties, and Being late to a Hamstring Massage?

Man...

Karlos Dansby also said today that Johnny can lead them to a superbowl

Everyone got drunk on bashing Johnny... now that the smoke is cleared the truth is coming to light.. Johnny is still very much our future.

Which is why we are hiring his pro-day coach as our QB coach, and that coach was cut for Brian Hoyer from the Patriots.. so he probably hates Brian..

I love it.. you cant write this stuff

Jaelen Strong

Ray Farmer just somewhat gave Manziel a nice defense here.. while being stern at the same time.. Farmer is my fav..

Everybody was allowed to leave here yesterday,'' said general manager Ray Farmer. "They'll be back next week. Everybody was given the first several days to detox from the season, and (injured players) will be back in town starting Monday. Assuming he is in South Beach and he's down there, that's his right to have right now, and he'll be back assuming that that's what happens." Farmer said only some of Johnny Football's party persona is deserved.
"There's a notation and there's an idea of what Johnny is,'' he said. "Some of it's true. Some of it's not true. There are pieces that everybody comes to understand because that's what gets reported. There are pieces that people don't get to understand because that's never reported. Sometimes we hang our hats on the bad a little too much. There's good in there, and there are things he can hang his hat on to move forward with."
He said that Manziel -- and the Browns -- have to accept that Manziel will always be featured on social media.

"That's going to be his lot in life,'' said Farmer. "Regardless if he's out drinking Voss water and somebody sees him somewhere, they're going to take a picture and tweet it and it's going to be relayed as though this guy is out and he's doing whatever. That's where he's at. The reality is he's going to have to become a hermit if he doesn't want people to take pictures of him, so I doubt he's going to do that.
"We've also got to take with a grain of salt that every time this guy is somewhere it doesn't mean he's up to no good or it's negative. We have to be conscientious that we just want him to do the things that are necessary for him to be an NFL quarterback."
Farmer said he's not sure it's a distraction.
"It's a distraction when people allow things to be a distraction,'' he said. "Just because I'm out and somewhere and somebody takes a picture of me and my wife or me with my kids or me doing whatever wherever I'm at, doesn't mean that I'm actually doing anything negative. Everybody is allowed to have a private life. Again, it really points to the fact that we need him to do the things it takes to be an NFL quarterback.
"That doesn't mean that he can't have a private life or do the things away from football that he enjoys, but again, to some degree it's what he's going to have to deal with. It's who he is. People are going to take pictures and look at him and tweet about him. We have to deal with that circumstance if he's going to be a part of this team."
Farmer agreed with Manziel that he's got to put his moneyphone where his mouth is.
"Words don't mean anything,'' he said. "I'm not a big word guy. It's all about action. I think that's what all of our players and our coaches and our staff, everybody with this organization want to see. That's what our fans want to see. It's about action."

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Ray farmer.. and our players.. are AWESOME!

@lincoln-dukes said:

Nope. Pettine should dicipline the boy. 10:55 on game day? Sorry, Hoyer acts more like a pro. Johnny Bench acts like a college boy. Probably out all night drinkin. Hoyer gets the call. 2-0 against cincy... johnny Bench still hasn't looked at the playbook. Pettine knows something we don't. He know's Johnny's not ready, not diciplined, not focused, & is not going to take the gameplan seriously. I don't care abput hype, everyone is smokin the hype pipe. That never works. Ever. Never ever.

I mean..

But yeah.. lets stick with that.. it never works..

Someone who people hype up to be really good cant ever actually be good...

Why does everyone seem to forget Johnny did pass the ball in college.. quite a bit actually..

I mean.. his offense was called the "AIR RAID"

He didnt get the Heisman on his legs alone. For some reason everyone wants to lump him into a group of QBs that just run... I dont get it

The best response is when he was asked about Josh Gordon..

WOW

That was something else

The nervous laughter.. the disgusted look.. and the odd comment about "thats what happens when you get limited reps and that all im going to say about that"

AWKWARD

Exactly! Work hard play hard!

Gordon was the one who texted to the reporter that he wanted Manziel to start.

That and Hoyers passes sucked.

Gordon always "looks" like he's not trying.. his motion is so effortless.. his speed is effortless.. thats how good he it.

Gordon dove for the pass at the end.. the rest of the day... he was fine.. Brian just kept missing him

Zombo.. you have a memory of an Elephant

Sorry.. I forgot to wear my Quinn-fag badge

I'd take cutler without batting an eye.