I remember thinking, during this very positive season, that 'I hope everyone is enjoying this.  Everyone who's suffered through a quarter century of being a laughing stock.  Everyone who regularly posts on Browns boards.'   And I thought some more, 'I haven't seen Po.  He's usually such a positive passionate supporter of all things Browns.  - Hope he's ok and enjoying'.  And I hadn't seen ballpeen, but he turned out to be around.  -  Nobody's allowed to check out before we all get our ring.

I have Faith! GO BROWNS!!!

@canton-mike said: We DIDN'T draft him. We signed Jamie Gillan aka HAMMER as a UDFA. Just anotheer great signing by Dorsey & staff. Mike My mistake, and I do remember reading that and thinking same as Josh Cribbs

Of course this is a PoG thread.

The sad part is the family NOT wanting to know what really happened to their daughter. There are several theories on this.  1- They were in on it. Maybe she's not even dead. 2- The brother, now working for the Packers, knows more than he's letting on.  3- She died of natural causes like a heart attack or an accident and Steven Avery was a scapegoat. 4- They were paid off to let Steven take the rap. The Halbach family and the family of the original family that framed him are also really close.  … No matter how you look at it, it's obvious of one thing, that Steven Avery had nothing to do with it, he's innocent and was framed by the police. If this was my daughter, one way or another I could not or would not rest until the truth was reviled. The fact they "bought" the lie that Brendan and Steven could have or would have done this to their daughter is akin to burying their head in the sand... and it's a good thing that so many out there are looking out for the truth.  Two innocent men in prison for Life- for something they didn't do... that's not just sad, it's horrifying. The fact that one of these men had already spent 18 years in prison an was innocent the entire time and the other was just a mentally slow boy at the time makes it even worse. It's a shame this has gone on so long. 

Willies' return would be nice, but I kinda like the five we suited up today, so there's no need to rush Derrick. Perriman has been a very pleasant surprise.

Prayers 

QB- L. Jackson B. Mayfield  RB- R. Penny D. Guice  N. Chubb FB-  WR- A. Miller C. Kirk E. St. Brown  TE- T- T. Crosby G- C- F. Ragnow DE- B. Chubb T. Young DT- V. Vea T. Thompson LB- L. Vander-Esch D. Leonard CB- J. Jackson J. Alexander S. Neal S- A. Watts T. Henderson I tried to sprinkle in some of my late round sleepers.

As much as I like Barkley, we HAVE to take our QB #1. That's just the way it is now. Please God don't trade down.

@the-gipper said: And they have a department for that:   The Department of Redundancy Departmet. And they only hire dunces to work there.

Teams have loaded their rosters with players to stop the air attack. That's why RB can be such a dangerous weapon if you have the right pieces. If you were to draft Barkley, Guice and Penny. You would literally be able to run the ball non-stop and the defense would just be gassed. It would be nearly unstoppable.  Cleveland COULD draft Barkley and Guice and really the NFL couldn't do anything about it. Track meet.  If the stars aligned and Mayfield fell to the second... Barkley, Guice and Mayfield.  Maybe pushing it a little with the RB but really think about it for a minute.  Hogan/Mayfield/Kizer with Barkley, Guice, Duke, Gordon, Coleman and add Pryor in FA. A little Njoku and Devalve, pick up the nastiest FB available and it's off to the races on gameday.

@hoorta said:  I see WAY too much of what Deshone looked like at Notre Dame in Allen at Wyoming. Tune in tomorrow 4PM EDT, ESPN and see if you don't agree.    Ooooouuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu, Central Michigan.....................scary. They actually beat Kansas this year.....................oh wait.......................not basketball. This game can only prove he is Sheet or nothing at all.  Wyoming has already played at the stadium in Boise this year so they have that advantage of knowing the blue turf. But Central Michigan did beat URI which I think is Urology Institute or something. I hear they can either play like pussies or ball breakers on any given day.

Poe, no other fans, no outsider can understand what Browns fanship is. Over all the head bashing we do, at the end of it all, we are joined over decades of family, friends, snow, heartbreak, celebration, nuttiness and even great football memories. We return here over and over and over, no matter what. God Bless us all.

@the-user-from-cleveland said: When did he say that? It was on this weeks Hue Jackson's Show on Clevelandbrowns.com I believe. 

@tour2ma said: I predict Hogan will start Week 18... Oh god, my kind of team! We need a BROWNS movie like MAJOR LEAGUE.

@ghoolie said: I am being a homo. hopefully the wife knows.

@thomam3 said: Here you go dum dums. I don't care about "garbage time" Hogan is currently the best QB on our roster. Play him. Start Kizer at RB while we're at it. 

@hoorta said: We had 24 draft picks War. We had TONS of cap room. My expectation was to have us not looking worse than an expansion team this past Sunday.  Nope, great franchises don't need to take a temporary gain. Steelers don't. Or hit on two super studs like the Cowboys and go from crap to the playoffs.  First. "cap room" only enters into the equation when you go FA hunting to make that final push. That is what great teams do... spend big to add key pieces to put them over the top. We are not there yet and won't be for at least two and maybe as many as four seasons from now. Also, if you spend up to your cap now, it won't be there when you really need it. Second, in stating the 'Boys were "crap", you made war's point for him. They did not get into position for at least one of those studs by being continuously great. The 'Boys went 4-12 in 2015. Steelers? Been a long time since they were a sub-500 team to be sure, but having Ben in hand they've been a sustainer for a very long time. And they have been quite adept at it almost exclusively thru the Draft adding a Bell in R2 and Brown in R6 not too mention a few Buckeyes. But it's not as if every pick they touch turns to gold. Do you remember... Alameda Ta'amu? R4 Dri Archer? R3 Sammie Coates? R3 (threw in a gimmie) How about Senquez Golson? R2 And if you peruse their drafts you'll see a lot of names you know now that you did not know their first couple years in the league. Names like Chikillo... https://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/pit/draft.htm They raise their own. Does that approach sound familiar?

the browns crawled out of their grave onto a bunch of banana peels....