@mark-o said: I'll go Jets, Dallas (only because I'll be there), Giants and Cincy. I'll raise you a Garrett in the bag.

Hope not http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=40204&do=findComment&comment=599266

Agree, cal... start him/sit him... whatever the circumstances of his readiness and the team's immediate need combine to dictate. @roycerolls said:Its January, and a lot of shit will go down before the Browns are on the Clock with the #2 pick. That being said, if the Browns have the opportunity to take a Franchise QB, it has to happen. I believe Goff's floor is a top 20 NFL QB while his ceiling is top 5 (elite). Agree with this summary... very close to my assessment of Goff.

@tim-couch-pulls-out said:Give it a rest, Pettine is fired. just like hue will be in 3 years (or before). double or nothing on the six pack you already owe me for the 'johnny will be the starting QB in 2016' bet? chirp. chirp.

I like your enthusiasm. It's refreshing! I do hope they run the ball a lot. Le'Veon Bell destroyed them so why not feed the Crow and take some pressure off the rookie. I see a great future for these young players.

@mr.-make-believe said: I think there was definite separation between Clowney/Mack/Matthews/Robinson/Watkins... And the rest of the draft. We traded out of the upper echelon. I'm not punching my cat. I'm not pissy. I'm just disappointed that we dealt out of that area and likely can't cash in until 2015. But there is a very good reason they did that. Follow the logic. They fucking fleeced Buffalo to move down 5 spots! A first and fourth for next year?! That's four picks in two years so far, maybe five if we trade back into the first. They obviously had CB as one of the top needs on their board with Gilbert highly rated and regarded. They did their job by adding an excellent talent and set this team up for another big draft next year. This is how you build a fucking footballl team.

@jcam222 said:Anyone that boos a draft pick live like that is an asshole. Whether you like the pick or not why tarnish a guys big night. Those guys worked pretty damn hard to get to be drafted in the first round. i agree that is low class, but you'd have to think they are booing the franchise not the player. everyone wants an IMPACT player and i guess a guy who will be a rock on your oline for the next 10 years is not that valuable. lol.

I was ok untill you listed McCarrpn and Little...then I moved on...they both suck.

@mike-h said:Goldhammer is a penis head. Is that the people on ESPN 850 there in Cleveland till noon? Been trying to listen to them on my phone here in MS. There fucking morons, how do you people listen to them?

@diehardbrownsfan said:I didn't hear the broadcast. But players should not bad mouth their team to the media. They should keep it in house. All it does is cause problems within the organization. Here: http://www.espncleveland.com/page.php?page_id=109 Scroll down, it's there.

@darren15 said:How about Josh McCown for a year or 2 .....had success in Chicago ? from my understanding McCown's success last year was largely considered to be the outcome of Marc Trestman's QB friendly system. Rich Gannon won the NFL MVP under Trestman and went from a 57.8 comp% before Trestman to a 66.8 comp% under Trestman. http://voices.suntimes.com/sports/inside-the-bears/marc-trestman-brings-impressiv/

wait till they get a load of this guy

XxDaBuckeyexX said:I think Hoyer was third string because the other 2 QBs beat him out in camp. The team and city rallied around Hoyer and he played QB the way we havent seen in decades. Decisive. The fact is, we dont know what we have in him. He could just be scratching the surface, or he could turn back in to the undrafted QB whod been cut by 3 teams, once teams got some film on him. Given how bad the QB situation is and has been here, we cant afford to put everything on his shoulders. The next two years are gonna be huge for this group, as the window is open and its up to the QB to capitalize. I truly believe this is a playoff team with competent QB play. We have plenty of money to grab a couple upgrades in FA and do what we have to do, to get OUR highest rated QB in the draft. If we do that there are three outcomes. 1. Hoyer proves the doubters wrong and wins the job, leading us to the playoffs while the rook sits and learns. 2. The rookie comes in and takes the NFL by storm, leading us to the playoffs, Hoyer is a good backup. 3. They both suck and we suck also. If 1 happens, we would have a great trade chip assuming nothing has happened to kill the rooks trade bait after a couple seasons. If 2 happens, we have a good backup in Hoyer. If 3 happens, well we all know that story too well. I like scenario 1 and 2 but god not 3 please.

@tim-couch-pulls-out said: He was saying that we have the best defense in the AFCN and that means something in this division. He just forgot to add a comma. "I'm pretty sure we have the best defense in the AFC North and, in this division, that means something. thank you for the grammar board check, was well deserved. lols

@vagitron said:Why are so many of you carrying two xxxxing defenses? It's pointless. Unless you were able to draft an elite defense, there aren't many. You play the match ups week after week via the waiver wire. It's absolutely pointless to carry two defenses. Drop one and pick up a wr or a rb. yep. some of these yahoo leagues have a mandate about how many positional players and such you have to carry. yes, i'm dropping a kicker but you won't make me budge on having both seattle and ciny's D. plug and play. BTW, this is for fun. i really don't care if i wiwn or not. but having the same formula as i have now i won my league the first year i played it. will drop a kicker and look for a scrub RB in the meantime. like he'll ever get off the bench.

On offense, the only healthy starter I'd even consider NOT playing is Richardson... but I'd even give him 1 series On defense, maybe keep out P.Taylor and D. Bryant if they are still recovering... Rubin, Haden, Jackson, Kruger, Ward don't play much You want to play a quarter with Weeden, Benjamin, Little, Cameron, and the O-line. Also about a quarter for Robertson, Sheard, Gipson (if healthy), and Owens. Hopefully all the draft picks are healthy so they can play good time to get a feel for the speed of NFL football...

Weeden, I predict will have a very nice year under Norv and Chud. It seems to be an offense suited to him. Absent injury I suspect he plays, and fairly well thrives the entire year. How good the team will be is dependent on a lot more than how good Weeden will be. He will be a big cog but not everything in the game of football is reliant on the QB.

At least you called first qb taken. FWIW, my nephew called Bark-cavious two weeks ago. Mr. Hoorta ********************************************* Great call !

@nickers said: If the Browns draft Smith. then that will be affirmation that Haslam only cares about selling tickets...because what Ive seen of him...Im not impressed one iota. i have to disagree. i think if there is a downfall in the hierarchy of the browns that it doesn't come from the owner's box. i really didn't think that randy lerner did anything wrong except not show more enthusiasm, which he inherently didn't have cuz of the british/soccer upbringing. i think haslam has hired these guys, banner and lombardi, and expects them to do their jobs. hopefully haslam has no input on the draft. would you want a guy who decides how many slim jims he has to buy for his memphis truck stop to start pulling strings on nfl player decisions? haslam had the browns on cable TV a week after the ink dried on the purchase of the franchise. hopefully he will sell more tickets and blow up browns marketing, but not because of another reach of an over-rated QB in geno smith.

I agree Geno Smith could factor in a early trade but moreso I think an OT will be a factor. Alot of teams need Oline help which is one of the browns strongpoints. @jrb12711 said: The Browns ability to move up or down will depend on someone wanting Geno Smith or one of the top flight DE/OLB prospects. Either way, no team is going to move more than 3-4 spots, that's all but certain. I think the Eagles are by far in the best position to move down if Geno falls. However, with Carson just now being traded it be time again for the Raiders to take a tall black QB with its top pick. That is of course unless they believe Pryor is the next Steve McNair.