@therealmccoy65 said:

It's been hard to actually find film of Fairley for whatever reason, but I really think this guy's a beast and would love to have him. It sounds like he's going to be available and I would love to plug him in next to Ahtyba Rubin. For anyone out there who's wanted to see more of him too here's a handful of his games http://www.mockdraftclub.com/position-rankings/nick-fairley-profile

His stock has been plummeting for a few reasons. When I watched this

guy in the championship game I thought he was an utter beast. But after

further review I think the DT from Bama is the better player. He is

even more of a monster. And Fairley is a 1-year wonder. That raises

a red flag in itself.

@wrrebel said:

Are you serious? You are very naive if you don't beleive a high percentage of players arent on HGH. HGH and a good level of test will actually keep you from breaking down for years, look at Bonds and other baseball players who thrived in there late 30's. Eventually it does lead to your body breaking down.

Let me guess when you go to strip clubs, you think the stippers like you?

You are beyond ignorant. It's a matter of degrees. Sanders was on a mad

level of shit - look at his natural size vs. what he ended up with in the NFL.

There is a difference between a moderate level of HGH to prolong your

career vs. being on so much juice that you gain 30 lbs of muscle on a

5-8" frame. When you balloon your body up with that much unnatural

muscle, things pop and break. That is what happened to him. And if

he wasn't on the shit? He'd have never even made the league.

You think everyone is on that much juice? You think Polamalu even

touches any of that stuff? Not a chance.

Let me guess: When you go to Browns games, you think they

are a good team?

Something no one is touching on this Sanders subject:

Bob is greatly likely to be on juice and/or HGH. This just

in: Being on those things to jack you up also make it

more likely that you will experience significant injuries.

That is why his injury string will not end, unless he goes

off the stuff which means he will then be way too small

to be a good player.

@wrrebel said:

Ur Retarded.. some one will sign him, and if he stays healthy which is a big if he will be a steal. If he doesn't stay healthy as long as u don't sign him to a garenteed money then oh well.

You guys signed flozell adams when a lot of teams didn't want to sign some one who is old and injured.

That worked out well..

You don't sign him giving him a multi year deal or even expecting to get much out of him. I guess troy palumalo is done to since he has been hurt the last couple of years.

Hotel NEVER had the history of injuries like Sanders; no where close.

Sanders has basically missed most of the last 3 seasons. I mean, for real?

Hotel is older, but without all the major injuries.

Please sign this walking injury machine. Please.

How dumb do you have to be to think this might be

a good idea?

@mcbrownies23 said:

The only reason gholston failed is because he was lazy which everyone said he wouldn't be in the pros but he still was also you cant just expect to run around people in the NFL which is the only move he had Heyward on the other hand is versatile since he can move around on the line and still be effect not to mention he has power and decent speed where gholsten just had speed

Is this an example of the quality of education in OH? Scary.

I hope you guys draft Green this high. That's no way to

build a team, which is why Browns will probably do it.

55 catches a year, 800 yards, in college. Great. Use

a super high first rounder on him, while the rest of

your team is in such a sorry state.

Cleveland has the worst WR unit in the entire league.

What team is even close to having a WR as crappy?

I can't think of anyone.

Your #2 receiver is a full back for God's sake.

Benjamin Watson 68 763 11.2 44 3 - Lumbering TE coming to end of career

Peyton Hillis 61 477 7.8 47 2 - FB body who will be used up in 2 years

Chansi Stuckey 40 346 8.7 25 0 - Would be #5 WR on most teams.

Mohamed Massaquoi 36 483 13.4 41 2 - Sucks

Brian Robiskie 29 310 10.7 46 3 - No where near as advertised

Josh Cribbs 23 292 12.7 65 1 - Not a WR, period. And it shows.

By the way, I like wieners.

@feartheroo said:

It was the best Pro Bowl of all time...you know why?

there were ZERO STEELERS!

And all it took to make that possible was having the game the week before

the Super Bowl, making it 100% impossible for anyone making the Super

Bowl to participate in the Pro Bowl.

And for that, you are claiming it as a victory. Every time that I think I have

seen the limit to Browns fans lack of smarts, I see another fan out-dumb down

the rest. It's insane.

@allaneddie said:

Mike T. says: "How do you like me now?"

:lol: :lol: :lol:

Are there any Browns fans who _aren't_ Retarded?

I'd say would admit the steady hand of the ownership and franchise.

Talk about consistency. This is their 8th Super Bowl appearance; a record

among many impressive records.

They also won 6 Super Bowls, another impressive record. And, they

are working on winning their 7th, which would put them two ahead

of any other team.

Tell us what you admire most about the amazing Steelers.

@brownsbacker said:

Yep. Do you feel smart for realizing the blatantly obvious?

Do you feel dumb for not?

It's the draft. Cleveland has been so insanely inept at drafting, that anyone

could do better if they picked up a predraft magazine or looked at a website

minutes before the draft.

I am not kidding. Browns have been _that_ bad at drafting since, well, since

the 1980s. Just look at who they picked, especially the super high picks

they accumulate each year for having such a horrible record - almost

every single season. With picks that high, they should be able to luck

into drafting some probowl-level players. But no - they still screw up the picks.

2010 might be the first decent draft that have had in over 25 years.

2010 1 1 7 7 Joe Haden DB Florida - maybe the first decent first round pick

since.....I don't even know when.

2 2 6 38 T.J. Ward DB Oregon - Seems decent too.

3 2 27 59 Montario Hardesty RB Tennessee - Horrid pick and they gave up a bunch

of picks to get him. He will never be healthy for any length of time and I warned Browns fans of this

as soon as they drafted him.

4 3 21 85 Colt McCoy QB Texas - Could be a steal. We will see if he doesn't

end up having his career ruined just from being in Cle, ala Tim Couch. Couch was considered a can't

miss prospect, but just being in Cle ruined his entire career. He ended up having a pop gun arm

and too weak of a character. Didn't he literally cry about the fans being too mean to him? 5-8 are

all nobodies.

5 3 28 92 Shawn Lauvao G Arizona State

6 5 29 160 Larry Asante DB Nebraska

7 6 8 177 Carlton Mitchell WR South Florida

8 6 17 186 Clifton Geathers DE South Carolina

2009 1 1 21 21 Alex Mack C California

2 2 4 36 Brian Robiskie WR Ohio State - A bum so far. Just not good, period.

3 2 18 50 Mohammed Massoquoi WR Georgia - Hasn't done anything. 4 - 8 all bums.

4 2 20 52 David Veikune DE Hawaii

5 4 4 104 Kaluka Maiava LB USC

6 6 4 177 Don Carey DB Norfolk State

7 6 18 191 Coye Francies DB San Jose State

8 6 22 195 James Davis RB Clemson

2008 1 4 5 104 Beau Bell LB Nevada-Las Vegas - Who?

2 4 12 111 Martin Rucker TE Missouri - Who?

3 6 24 190 Ahtyba Rubin DT Iowa State - Who?

4 6 25 191 Paul Hubbard WR Wisconsin - Who?

5 7 24 231 Alex Hall DE St. Augustine's - Who? All rubbish. How can ANYONE draft

this shi--y?

2007 1 1 3 3 Joe Thomas T Wisconsin - Good.

2 1 22 22 Brady Quinn QB Notre Dame - Garbage. Horrible pick. What a waste.

3 2 21 53 Eric Wright DB Nevada-Las Vegas - OK. 4 -7 all bums.

4 5 3 140 Brandon McDonald DB Memphis

5 6 26 200 Melila Purcell DE Hawaii

6 7 3 213 Chase Pittman DE Louisiana State

7 7 24 234 Syndric Steptoe WR Arizona

2006 1 1 13 13 Kamerion Wimbley LB Florida State - Decent now, as a Raider!

2 2 2 34 D'Qwell Jackson LB Maryland - bust

3 3 14 78 Travis Wilson WR Oklahoma - bust

4 4 13 110 Leon Williams LB Miami (FL) - bust

5 4 15 112 Isaac Sowells G Indiana - bust

6 5 12 145 Jerome Harrison RB Washington State - decent but Cle traded him for nothing

7 5 20 152 DeMario Minter DB Georgia

8 6 11 180 Lawrence Vickers RB Colorado

9 6 12 181 Baba Oshinowo DT Stanford

10 7 14 222 Justin Hamilton DB Virginia Tech

2005 1 1 3 3 Braylon Edwards WR Michigan - Decent, as a JET!

2 2 2 34 Brodney Pool DB Oklahoma - eeeeee

3 3 3 67 Charlie Frye QB Akron - garbage.

4 4 2 103 Antonio Perkins DB Oklahoma - who?

I don't even need to go on. It is powerfully evident that Browns suck at drafting so bad, it

appears they are TRYING to suck. Wasn't Courtney Brown supposed to be a hall of famer?

He sucked. So did William Green. Tim Couch? My God, it is amazing one team could

have that many super horrible high draft picks.

5 5 3 139 David McMillan DE Kansas

6 6 2 176 Nick Speegle LB New Mexico

7 6 29 203 Andrew Hoffman DT Virginia

8 7 3 217 Jon Dunn T Virginia Tech

2004 1 1 6 6 Kellen Winslow Jr TE Miami (FL) - Decent, for TAMPA!

2 2 27 59 Sean Jones DB Georgia - ok

3 4 10 106 Luke McCown QB Louisiana Tech - rubbish

4 5 29 161 Amon Gordon DE Stanford

5 6 11 176 Kirk Chambers G Stanford

6 7 7 208 Adimchinobe Echemandu RB California

2003 1 1 21 21 Jeff Faine C Notre Dame

2 2 20 52 Chaun Thompson LB West Texas State

3 3 20 84 Chris Crocker DB Marshall

4 4 18 115 Lee Suggs RB Virginia Tech

5 5 7 142 Ryan Pontbriand C Rice

6 5 17 152 Michael Lehan DB Minnesota

7 6 22 195 Antonio Garay DE Boston College

2002 1 1 16 16 William Green RB Boston College

2 2 15 47 Andre Davis WR Virginia Tech

3 3 11 76 Melvin Fowler C Maryland

4 4 3 101 Kevin Bentley LB Northwestern

5 4 13 111 Ben Taylor LB Virginia Tech

6 4 24 122 Darnell Sanders TE Ohio State

7 5 6 141 Andra Davis LB Florida

8 7 16 227 Joaquin Gonzalez T Miami (FL)

2001 1 1 3 3 Gerard Warren DT Florida

2 2 2 33 Quincy Morgan WR Kansas State

3 3 3 65 James Jackson RB Miami (FL)

4 4 2 97 Anthony Henry DB South Florida

5 5 3 134 Jeremiah Pharms LB Washington

6 6 2 165 Michael Jameson DB Texas A&M

7 7 3 203 Paul Zukauskas G Boston College

8 7 45 245 Andre King WR Miami (FL)

2000 1 1 1 1 Courtney Brown DE Penn State

2 2 1 32 Dennis Northcutt WR Arizona

3 3 1 63 Travis Prentice RB Miami (OH)

4 3 17 79 JaJuan Dawson WR Tulane

5 4 1 95 Lewis Sanders DB Maryland

6 4 16 110 Aaron Shea TE Michigan

7 5 1 130 Anthony Malbrough DB Texas Tech

8 5 17 146 Lamar Chapman DB Kansas State

9 6 17 183 Spergon Wynn QB Southwest Texas State

10 6 40 206 Brad Bedell G Colorado

11 7 1 207 Manuia Savea G Arizona

12 7 3 209 Eric Chandler DE Jackson State

13 7 19 225 Rashidi Barnes DB Colorado

1999 1 1 1 1 Tim Couch QB Kentucky

2 2 1 32 Kevin Johnson WR Syracuse

3 2 14 45 Rahim Abdullah LB Clemson

4 3 1 62 Daylon McCutcheon DB USC

5 3 15 76 Marquis Smith DB California

6 4 29 124 Wali Rainer LB Virginia

7 5 15 148 Darrin Chiaverini WR Colorado

8 6 5 174 Marcus Spriggs DT Troy State

9 6 18 187 Kendall Ogle LB Maryland

10 6 22 191 James Dearth TE Tarleton State

11 7 1 207 Madre Hill RB Arkansas

That is pretty amazing. 15 conference championship games since

the 1970s. No other team has that many. The Steelers must

really do something right in order to possess that many appearances.

Seriously that kind of success doesn't happen by accident.

@diehardbrownsfan said:

Everyone on here is acting like its a done deal that he will be a great NFL QB. Lots of bust first round picks as QB. I think he is making the right decision.

No, you don't get it. We aren't acting like he will have a sure fire

career as a top QB; what we are saying is he is likely the first

pick which comes with likely $60 mill in guaranteed $. GUARANTEED.

That means that even if he ends up like Tim Couch, they can never

take his 60 mill away. If he goes out and has a down 2011 or blows a

knee out, he will never see that $.

@hoorta said:

Yeah, I have no doubt his dad has a few million stashed away.

For those that don't already know- Andrew's father is Oliver Luck, who played a few years in the NFL. And I'd forgotten Oliver was born and grew up in CLEVELAND. Went to St Ignatius. Has a Law degree so he's certainly no dummy, and is currently Athletic Director at West Virginia which isn't too shabby an income.

Oliver Luck Bio

So good for Andrew, I'm sure he's had several long conversations with dad about life in the NFL, and it was a well thought out decision. But it DOES drastically alter the top of the draft, as Luck was the only #1 pick qb this year.

Yea, maybe not too shabby an income as AD for WVU, but the kind of jack

where you pocket $60 mill. guaranteed? Doubt it.

@ballpeen said:

it isn't always about the money dude.

For some people it is about accomplishment, pride, and team spirit.

Luck has plenty of money in his future even if he never plays a down of NFL football.

He can still accomplish as much, with pride, etc. with $60 mill. guaranteed over

risking it. He could be one hit away from not even making the NFL. You don't

blow off $60 mill when it is right there for the taking and may never be there

again. You just don't do that.

@clevelandfanforlife said:

good for luck. it is well known that all men named andrew are geniuses and this just proves it.

this will completely change the draft. i could see carolina drafting whatever player is the best overall now. maybe aj green just to see if clausen can do anything with some weapons.

Dumbest decision in the history of dumb decisions.

If he drops 10 spots for the 2012 draft, or worse, it will cost

him 10s of millions - he could finish his education whenever,

but with a guaranteed $55-65 mill in the bank. That is a horrendous

decision. I can't believe he would be that stupid. You never walk

away from a guaranteed $60 mill. because whatever happens after

that will be moot. Ask Locker if he should have stayed this year. Compare

a guaranteed $15 mill to $60 mill. and get back to me.

@halfsane said:

Our two biggest needs are WR and DE.

Then O-line, and DB.

EDIT: I would draft DE before WR if the talent is available.

It is rare for a WR making as much of a difference as a top DE. Plus,

you can find good WRs in the 2nd and 3rd round - look at Pgh. They got

Ward, Wallace and Sanders all in the 3rd round. Only a total beast

like Andre Johnson is worthy of a high 1st round pick. But a monster

DE is more worthy of a high 1st rounder. I'm not certain that Green

will be that much of a difference maker to warrant being taken in the

top 6 picks.

Bowers is a monster. Browns sure do need help up front.

Although Browns have the very worst WR unit in the entire

league. They really are weaklings there.

@theclevelandsound said:

So the Steelers need the Browns to win this week to clinch the AFC North and get a first round bye. I don't see too much trash talking this week.

The Ravens need to beat us this week and us to beat the Steelers next week to win the AFC North.

Start suckin up!

No thanks. No need to suck up. Pgh is going to come into

cLEAVEland and knock the browns teeth out like chicklets

and get that first week bye by taking care of business themselves.

We don't need no stinking help.