Both of them did things that hurt their image with fans...one said to much to often and didnt know when to draw the line lost fan support and playr respect ,the other was "mr. secret agent man the childish" and he didnt say enough early on and lost much of the fanbase support but he did gain the players respect both for team and self...its to bad mangini didnt open up his process more to the fans early on..many of us became so blinded by his anti-fanish rhetoric that we missed the fact he needed to make the players a family before inviting us the extended family in... Mangini is a far better coach than many of us had given him credit for ,more importantly he has a plan and we are just seeing it take root , mcdaniels is young and fiery he has much to learn yet he is wet behind the ears but gifted..

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@riffer-x said:Uh, maybe you were too liquored up on Kentucky moonshine but Rivers' sorry ass pick was completely unforced. Actually, on them thar TV thingamajigs those boys calling the game made a pretty big point of how shitty the pass was. Check it out, replay is fun. ................................................................................ ................................................................................. ................................................................................. ....... Ur a Loser and Pressure on MOST plays rings in a QBs head on the Plays the D drops back to set him up for a PICK ! THAT'S the beauty of a pass rush you Moron !!! Get one and then you will see why you dont really need to rush Every down...to be effective. The Hits and Hurries all add up to a QBs head being slowly filled with "scrambled Eggs ...(instead of Grey~matter) and then the "Duh" moment occurs. Just like Ben with Indy last week !