After watching Bitonio and Conklin take a dive on 4th down Sunday was enough to give them the boot 

I thought he deserved it, cant have enough fat ass's 

@ballpeen said: That will probably change.  I think Taylor is on his first contract as well.  Both will probably get in the 6-8 mil range.  If I was Haslam I would extend him 3 years now.  That gives Stefanski 4 years of security.  After that, wait and see, looking to keep giving 3 years deals going in to the 4th season if warranted. I think so too!  

@ap1 said: I hope to never see him in anything but Orange and Brown. We can certainly agree on this!

Keep it up We're spoiled for choice at backup OT with the emergence of Hudson and Dawand.  Sure, he's not a starter yet, but  Conklin contract -- 2023 and 2024 appear predetermined, here's guessing he's gone before the 2025 season. Wills contract -- Will he be franchised next season to ensure Hudson works out the issues highlighted by tia and to allow Dawand to continue to develop? No long-term yet.

That's enough time for 3 more position groups to lose 2 backups to knee surgery! I'll see myself out.

@nickers said: Yikes! Yeah,, I know.  But really, as an owner, aren't you going to tell your GM to make sure he hires a minority assistant GM?

@hoorta said: Steve, there's really no sense rehashing this for about the millionth time....  Fact is... Art was damn near broke, and besides a new stadium, Cleveland was in no position to give Art a $40 million bribe on top of that to stick around. That involved both city (Baltimore) and state (Maryland)  moolah.    It's been well documented Art nixed being part of Gateway, and once the Tribe mover to nicer digs, Modell shot himself in the foot hanging on to an outdated stadium. That he finally had to sell out to Biscotti to avoid foreclosure on his ever increasing roll over loans is nothing short of Divine Justice. Wanted to leave the team to his cigar chomping kid... in the end, he got what he deserved. Browns fans pissing on his grave. Said way back, his family should have had him cremated.     Somebody brought it up I responded simple as that. And you're right no point rehashing. But it does underscore another point. Those of you who keep repeating over and over it's a business it's a business... well, it's not a business to us. Or some of us. WSS

@ibleedbrown said: We have similar takes on Harris but that strength and size thing is a biggie for me at the center position. Sometimes you just gotta be a wall and Harris ain’t the kinda wall l would hang a Picasso on. Maybe a Motley Crue poster. But not a framed Motley Crue poster.  Does anyone really frame Motley Crue posters? I get it, but the argument can be made that being able to kick out and block several guys on one play in this offense is crucial. We don't always run ZBS schematically, but those slow developing designs where Chubb or Hunt (or DJ-Felton) look for the off-tackle cutback take time. One small contact on a backer or box safety on the backside can be the difference between a big gain or not. Tretter was a top 6 caliber center for years and a smart guy, so it may be a bit of a step back. I think we can do worse than Harris and have, but wouldn't be surprised if we draft one as well. Dunn also seems like a viable candidate to press Nick and/or be a swing man. Harris is also better than average in pass pro and communicates well, imo. Like I mentioned earlier, too many folks went by him getting thrust in at guard in 2020 when we had nobody left. He is a pure center all the way and I kind of like that. As to your Crue take, now I am all confused. Definitely one of the staples of my youth and a band I still crank out a few times a year. Speaking of which, going to give Shout at the Devil a listen before my upcoming meeting. I can't stand Tommy Lee anymore though, way to woke for my britches. And are they the worst of the "used to be good" bands? Anything released by them post 80s was cringeworthy -- Mick ran out of riffs! The only other bands that compete with 'good to suck' is maybe Def Leppard and Aerosmith.

WR Corey Coleman signs with Chiefs.  Chiefs now have Gordon and Coleman.. WR MVS signs with Chiefs 3/36.  Chiefs top 3 are MVS, Mecole Hardman, and Juju.. Literally the pupu platter

Browns 2021 pass routes Browns 2021 skill player charts for every game To change the team, type "arizona-cardinals" or whoever in the URL where browns is. Right-click and open a new tab to get it to refresh on something different such as a single player. Apparently they only do a few players each game for each team, but it's still interesting. Baker's chart splits the field into 12 areas, showing rating throwing to each.  Only bad area: 10-20 yards past LOS between left hash and sideline.

Some Woke pussy liberal.

@5150k9 said: Thanks for the link! That was a great article. He was hired after Stefanski Mike? We've gone through so much change the last 2 decades I've lost track.  Yep! Stefanski hired as HC 1/13/2020 Berry hired as GM & Executive VP of Football Operations 1/27/2020 (a full 2 weeks AFTER the Stefanski hire!) Mike

Those injuries suck because Kittle is hilarious and a throwback to watch. Jaire and Wilson are two of my favorite players at their respective positions.   Football is better with them.

And here I am hoping that our 2 best defenders are going to miss some weeks due to injury/COVID... Just to come back stronger for the season finale and PLAYOFFS. 

@tour2ma said: OBJ was about as open on Baker's 1st pass as Peeps was on Baker's last. tia... if you look at the all-22, I'm curious if the above two plays were the same... Back with an answer... As far as the plays being the same?  No.    DPJ and Bryant were running a divide to the boundary.     When Odell got hurt it was a hitch-square combo with Hoop & Juice and ODB on the 9 by his lonesome.     But the real question is ball placement.   The throw to ODB on his injury was piss poor at best.   It wasn't an attempt at back-shoulder, it wasn't a deliberate underthrow.  It was short and inside, plain and simple.  On the DPJ touchdown however - Can't tell.   Part of me thinks the backshoulder was intentional because when Baker starts his release, DPJ is even with the DB.  So it may be a case of not having that timing, chemistry and understanding of your own WR down as much as we'd like.             On the other hand, putting the ball back inside is questionable as hell because if that pass is at the back pylon, there was no way that safety would have affected the play either.    @dutch-oven said: Also tia, I read a tweet that said it appeared Baker had to move to his second read like twice all game. If you do look at the All-22, I wonder if this is true.  I went through most of the 1st quarter to when he started connecting on passes.    Cincy did.... not make it difficult.     To say the least.

@unsympathetic said:  - if you aren't already subscribed, you'll enjoy this channel if you like the detail. Conventional wisdom has suggested that "the reason" for our game 1 loss was the delayed blitz packages that Titans ran on 7 plays.  Video analysis shows the top issue with each of those plays was in no case the delayed blitzer -- DL beating an OL immediately, WR not being ready for the ball or running a terrible route, Baker missing either the read or the throw before pressure is a factor.  A delayed blitz happened, yes, but isn't on the top 5 reasons why those plays didn't work.  Sadly, the playcall against their defense was actually correct in most of these cases.. execution, of course, has room for improvement. There is hardly ever a singular "reason" for losing a football game.  It's often a collection of things, as you mentioned - a missed route here, a back pickup on a pressure there, a late read another time, that have a snowball effect on an offense.     Even worse when you play against an offense focused on ball control which doesn't create many, if any, opportunities for your defense to get you additional possessions.   I'd be curious what the flip side of this - (defensively speaking) was.    My recollection was we did a solid job limiting the titans on the OZ and getting into gaps.  Especially early...  actually most of the entire 1st half.   I remember things getting a bit out of hand when they threw some gap and downhill power ball at us as the game wore on.     ....if I could find the time to do film analysis myself

Cast no more aspersions on my asparagus! Added projection link for all 32 starting lineups.

@calfoxwc said: ask Canton Mike - I railed against drafting the drunkard qb hugely, always. I tried to look on the bright side, then found out there wasn't one. He could play, but couldn't stop drinking and partying. Cal WAS against drafting Manziel. Wanna buy a Manziel jersey? You'll have to buy it from me, not Cal, so do some research before pointing fingers. Mike

@mjp28 said: This whole thing business, politics, sports, life in general is unlike anything that anyone now alive has ever seen.  And life in the healthcare system is really strange too, I've been in the hospital twice this year and I'm glad my wife retired in 2018.  I'm a bit surprised though how enthusiastic the nursing students that I've met this year are about the future.... good for them. (Or maybe they are just young.) It's hard to take a big "do-over" for 2020 but that is what might happen. I just hope that it doesn't bleed to bad into 2021. Thanks for weighing in MJ.  I hear ya!   That said, I'm glad we have young people eager and enthused to help out the healthcare industry.  We're gonna need them.