@laiccm said:

I bet he don't go there anymore.....guys gotta stop enabling this cat like he can't do anything wrong. Someone might sock him...

I think your take on this is is far from what the players actually think, what the fans think, what the coaching staff thinks ... Everyone knows Baker's the leader and everyone is all on board ... Except Duke. And Duke was nicely paid by the current Admin for his current role. If he's smart, he'll get out there and shine this year when he has his opportunity in the first 8 games, that is the best way to enhance his career, not stewing and letting your agent run their mouth ... Do you think that is what potential suitors want to see?

Baker is going to be a here a long time, Duke is not. Running back careers are generally short ... go out there and try and and win a ring while you can, and be the best you can be, the rest will fall into place.

Zombo

@laiccm said:

THIS IS WHAT I WAS TALKING ABOUT....You have to be completely ignorant of locker rooms not to have seen this coming and I bet he don't open his mouth again about it.....

Several Browns players apparently weren't too happy with Baker Mayfield earlier this month after he called out running back Duke Johnson. 

According to NFL.com, multiple players confronted Mayfield at some point after his comments were made on June 4 and voiced their displeasure. It seems Mayfield's teammates wanted to see the quarterback support Johnson rather than call him out through of the media.  

Johnson has been demanding a trade since at least April, and although he showed up for mandatory minicamp in early June, he made it clear that he still wants to be traded, which didn't sit well with Mayfield. 

"That's something that we've been dealing with for a while," Mayfield said on June 4, via the Cleveland Plain Dealer. "If we have guys that want to be here, they'll show that, they'll voice that. Obviously he's going to handle his stuff how he wants, but you're either on this train or you're not, it's moving. You can get out of the way or you can join us. So it is what it is."

Johnson presumably wants to be traded because he doesn't think he has much of a future in Cleveland, where he'll eventually be sitting behind Nick Chubb and Kareem Hunt. The Browns haven't really shown any interest in trading Johnson though, but that's probably because Hunt is going to be suspended for the first eight games of the season. 

Blah, blah, blah.

Unless you are going to name names, take it to TMZ.

Non-Story. We're good.

Z

@htownbrown said:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/deadspin.com/report-kellen-winslow-ii-couldnt-stop-masturbating-in-1835493794/amp

How does everyone just deal with this?  

We drafted a rapist instead of The Rapist.

At least we didn't draft J. P. Losman.

Zombo

Here are today's survey questions,   and I admit that I took some of these straight from the WKNR Rizzo show that is going on now, plus a couple of others. Give your answers.

1. Brownie the Elf seems to be making a big comeback on Browns gear.   Do you like the elf?

Love the elf.

2. Cleveland Browns Stadium aka bankrupt first energy.....needs a new nickname.   What do you think would be a good new nickname for it...now that the Browns appear to be poised to become winners.

Cleveland Browns Stadium

3. Name someone you think has been an underrated as an all time athlete, i.e. someone who hasn't really gotten his due.  This can be from any sport from any era.

Hakeem Olajuwon

4.  What is your opinion about the so called "unwritten rules" in sports?  Things such as..celebrating a home run can get you beaned. Or running up the score. (The US women beat the Thailand women in soccer yesterday....by a score of 13-0...and are being accused of being unsportsmanlike for running up the score and celebrating after scoring some of the later goals)

Love them.

5. I leave Friday for 2 weeks in New England.  What are your summer travel plans, if any?

Family reunion in Pennsylvania

@laiccm said:

As I said.....players' shouldn't talk about other players moves or money.....unless you gonna give him part of your check. It's why Brady, Brees, Rodgers....etc don't do that

We don't care what happens other places.

If you're not Brown and Orange ... you don't matter.

Zombo

@orion said:

Two reasons.

a)  Dorsey didn't pay Duke

1)  Duke becomes a cancer - then he must go

2)  They really DO like Hilliard - as ballpeen attests  

......just a couple of years ago, this very same Duke Johnson, was the best offensive weapon on the team.

Landry...............x...x...x...x...x....Njoku...................OBJ

........Chubb...........Mayfield...........Johnson

Dorsey DID pay Duke, last summer.

That's the whole point.

Z

@laiccm said:

He got paid well in your opinion. He still has to manage that money for the rest of his life if the statistics ring true

Always about money.

Mayfield's attitude should stay inside his mouth. No business being some other player's pocket. No way players are okay with that.

If I'm being honest..............Baker is talking a lot for a 2nd year. When McNabb and Ben did it it was after years of playoffs and SB appearances.

Someone needs to tell him this doesn't end well if he continues...and Dorsey's response is kinda what set it off.

He's not in his pocket. Duke already got paid. Get your ass on the field and shut up and shut your people up. Be a professional.

We are payin ghim nicely and we need him for those first 8 games. Yes, his role will diminish after that. But Hunt is only on a one year contract, so why would the Browns just flush Duke who they just invested in?

Zombo

@laiccm said:

I think Duke has handled it as good as anyone. Don't forget a B shelf life is usually about 3-5 years at most. I don't think the GM nor a 2nd year QB should be speaking on his money. Nor do I think anyone in the locker room is okay with it. Show me when it has ever turned out well? 

Duke got paid last year. Handsomely.

It's not about money, it's about Playing time.

Mayfield's attitude is if you're not with us, you're against. The train is pulling out of the station, are you on or off?

He's not a whiny fag like Ben or McNabb, he's a leader.

Z

Will they take Duke and Corbett?

Put Robinson at RG and call it a day.

Zombo

I am lucky enough to remember him playing when he was at the end of the line and I was at the beginning of mine. I had these football cards:

Much more clear memories of him as a coach, where he could never get GB over the hump, and was a victim of this:

Kareem re-born:

http://www.espn.com/blog/cleveland/post/_/id/6555/kareem-hunts-baptism-symbolizes-his-rebirth-as-a-man-and-as-a-player

@gumby73 said:

I guess what I don't get on lb's is? Than why grab 2 in the draft. 1 FA. And 2 or 3 more as udfa? I guess I need more camp media blotter to believe this theroy

Linebackers make great special teamers, first of all, so bring them on.

I think Taki and Mack are brought in to challenge Kirksey and Schoebert for those front two positions, if not this year then next.

Avery is the Wild Card that is the best pass rusher of the group, they'll be lining him up everywhere. The free agent we signed, Taylor is depth/ST

If you want to see what this current admin thinks of LB corps, they have kept 3rd and 4th rd picks from the previous regime and added two 5ths and a 3rd.

We have a 3rd, 4th, and 5th starting, backed up by a 3rd and 5th.

They are looking for versatile guys with good leadership skills that can plug and play with the first team or special teams. As Dorsey would say, "Football Players", not stars.

Stars they like at QB, RB, WR, Edge and CB ...

Zombo

By all reports Bake looked sharp in OTAs, must have been the beard making him look "chubby"

I read where Wilkes only has 2 inebackers on the 90% of the time, so I think with Schoeber, Kirksey, Avery and the two dawgs we just drafted we should be able put together a nice corps.

Daron Lee would not fit as a role player and is not a good locker room guy which is why Gase shuttled him 20 minutes after he became GM.

Reminds me of Dorsey cutting Kenny Britt the second he walked into the building.

Zombo

Doing this survey on a Sunday for the first time.  Give your answer/opinions:

1. Which of the Brown's new acquisitions...by trade/FA/Draft   will have the biggest impact on the team this coming year?

Beckham

2. If you were not a Browns fan......if you are one, which other NFL team, if any would you be a fan of?

Can't imagine

3. Have you either played  football above the high school level....or coached football at any level?

No

4. Besides Tom Brady....with his good looks, his hot wife, his money, his fame...and not least of all, his incredible success......is there any  football player, past or present whose life you would want to emulate?

I don't really want to emulate athletes, or anybody, but Chris Long, who just retired, is a pretty cool guy I can respect.

5. The current Jeopardy Champion was asked what he will be doing with some of the money he won, and he stated: My wife and family and I will be doing "Year of WOW".....and he explained that that will be where they will choose 12 cities over the world where they will spend a month each, just taking in everything about that city: the culture, atmosphere, attractions, food, etc. etc. So....if YOU were able to do the same for whatever the reason (like winning the lottery), which 12 cities would you choose to spend a month in for each? Anywhere in the world. WOW!!

Paris, Rome, London, Munich, Amsterdam, Sydney, then throw in three Greek/Mediterranean Islands and three Caribbean islands.

@gumby73 said:

1) Several reports are out that RB LJ Scott may take a pass on playing football all together. Has left Browns Camp or never arrived. 2) Jamie Collins signs back with the Patriots. 3.) Jets LB Darron Lee has been traded by Adam Gase HC/GM to KC for a 2020 6th round pick..Edit--After all the mess Gregg Williams has seen in 2 teams, in 2 seasons, GW should be granted to squarely boot his choice of suits, square in the ballsack ?..  

I was starting to think the Jets might be good this year, but Gase grabbing control sounds like a shit show, they'll be throwing out talent accumulated in last few years, blowing up and starting over again. After paying a billion dollars for a running back.

Z

So, we're down to Nickers flipping people off and Diehard patting him on the back for it ... gonna close this one down

@the-gipper said:

He was playoff caliber good. 

Like I said, Blake Bortles ceiling.

Zombo

@nickers said:

I guess you all settle for less.. no wonder why this organization has been garbage.. You all accept garbage and they kept feeding it to ya.. LOL... I just know myself.. I wouldnt be caught dead in a fruit cake outfit like that.. it looks stupid.. It just screams .. "Hey look Everybody".. I'm an asshole"  At least have some friggin pride ...

This organization was "garbage" because we didn't have enough good football players. He's a great one. We're not concerned with what he wore to the Met Gala, just take us to the Promised Land ... He's pulling hot chicks and scoring touchdowns for millions ... you're Nickers.

Zombo

Couch wasn't that good. Even when he was completely healthy and had decent blocking.

His ceiling was a Blake Bortles or Sam Bradford. Not McNabb.

Zombo

--But he was better than Akili Smith, so there's that.