I have had my fill, and I am going to vent: That's MY QB!
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Well those two lists certainly puts things in perspective..... and is something that we Cleveland BROWNS fans remember all to well.
This has been a very hard season completely across the entire NFL . Excerpt from something I read today.....
So who's your Super Bowl pairing ?
....... Jets versus Lions ? Technically, both are still alive! It could happen! (It won't happen.)
You can see where all this is heading. You know exactly what team is lurking, ready to step through the wreckage and the burning embers of this season and claim victory. The New England [expletive] Patriots !
GO BROWNS ! We always keep fighting.....baby !
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My big problem though is it looks like Stef is still learning on the job
Again, I feel you severely lack perspective my friend. I’ll take learning on the job over the washed up, irrelevant coaches and front offices just here for the paycheck, the journeyman veterans at QB that came here for the same, the “absolutely no one would make that pick at QB” EVERY SINGLE FUCKING DRAFT, the constant QB room drama, endless losing, and absolutely mindless tearing down of my team every two to three years.
we have a football team. It is hurt, struggling, but my sweet Jesus IT IS NOT WHAT WE ENDURED FOR TWO DECADES!
THATS MY QB! THATS MY COACH!
GO BROWNS.
Again, I feel you severely lack perspective my friend. I’ll take learning on the job over the washed up, irrelevant coaches and front offices just here for the paycheck, the journeyman veterans at QB that came here for the same, the “absolutely no one would make that pick at QB” EVERY SINGLE FUCKING DRAFT, the constant QB room drama, endless losing, and absolutely mindless tearing down of my team every two to three years.
we have a football team. It is hurt, struggling, but my sweet Jesus IT IS NOT WHAT WE ENDURED FOR TWO DECADES!
THATS MY QB! THATS MY COACH!
GO BROWNS.
Ive had enough coaches learning on the job...
Nickers...."There are no old running QB's in the NFL "~Sam Rutigliano~ -
For someone who supposedly the toughest man to ever suit up and play for the Browns, Baker Mayfield, and apparently his wife, have to have some of the thinnest skin ever.
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Hey GuN, you didn't have to list all that crap. We friggin' lived through it.
And I didn't like Baker walking off the field and not shaking anyone's hand....especially the opposing QB's hand. That's piss poor.
It's too bad that he's banged up. But he went out onto the field to play. If that's as good as he can play right now because of injuries, then he shouldn't be out there and the 6 million $ backup should be playing. You know, the guy that actually TOOK a team to the brink of a super bowl appearance.
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Empty, thoughtless, jibber jabber from Dutch and Orion. I imagine you both distinctly resemble in voice the adults from Charlie Brown.
In my opinion, your whining disqualifies you from enjoying our football team after so much suffering.
Good day sirs *tips hat*
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Empty, thoughtless, jibber jabber from Dutch and Orion. I imagine you both distinctly resemble in voice the adults from Charlie Brown.
In my opinion, your whining disqualifies you from enjoying our football team after so much suffering.
Good day sirs *tips hat*
Empty, thoughtless, jibber jabber from Dutch and Orion. I imagine you both distinctly resemble in voice the adults from Charlie Brown.
In my opinion, your whining disqualifies you from enjoying our football team after so much suffering.
Good day sirs *tips hat*
You Baker fan boys are silly gooses.
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Can I get a picture of Clipboard Jesus???
? ? Yeah ! I had to ...
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Year Age Tm Pos No. G GS QBrec Cmp Att Cmp% Yds TD TD% Int Int% 1D Lng Y/A AY/A Y/C Y/G Rate QBR Sk Yds Sk% NY/A ANY/A 4QC GWD AV 2005 22 GNB 12 3 0 9 16 56.3 65 0 0.0 1 6.3 3 16 4.1 1.3 7.2 21.7 39.8 3 28 15.8 1.95 -0.42 0 2006 23 GNB 12 2 0 6 15 40.0 46 0 0.0 0 0.0 2 16 3.1 3.1 7.7 23.0 48.2 7.9 3 18 16.7 1.56 1.56 0 2007 24 GNB 12 2 0 20 28 71.4 218 1 3.6 0 0.0 9 43 7.8 8.5 10.9 109.0 106.0 78.8 3 24 9.7 6.26 6.90 1 2008 25 GNB QB 12 16 16 6-10-0 341 536 63.6 4038 28 5.2 13 2.4 184 71 7.5 7.5 11.8 252.4 93.8 62.9 34 231 6.0 6.68 6.64 1 2 15
Mayfield's 4th season.. 10 games inYear Age Tm Pos No. G GS QBrec Cmp Att Cmp% Yds TD TD% Int Int% 1D Lng Y/A AY/A Y/C Y/G Rate QBR Sk Yds Sk% NY/A ANY/A 4QC GWD AV 2018 23 CLE QB 6 14 13 6-7-0 310 486 63.8 3725 27 5.6 14 2.9 171 71 7.7 7.5 12.0 266.1 93.7 51.2 25 173 4.9 6.95 6.77 3 4 10 2019 24 CLE QB 6 16 16 6-10-0 317 534 59.4 3827 22 4.1 21 3.9 179 89 7.2 6.2 12.1 239.2 78.8 54.4 40 285 7.0 6.17 5.29 1 1 11 2020 25 CLE QB 6 16 16 11-5-0 305 486 62.8 3563 26 5.3 8 1.6 188 75 7.3 7.7 11.7 222.7 95.9 72.2 26 162 5.1 6.64 6.96 2 2 14 2021 26 CLE qb 6 10 10 5-5-0 176 275 64.0 2166 10 3.6 6 2.2 100 71 7.9 7.6 12.3 216.6 91.3 37.2 27 166 8.9 6.62 6.39 -
We are too fixated on the past.
Like a terrible ex, like a bad boss, like a painful dentist trip. Leave it in the past.
Our QBs have been bad HCs have been equally bad.
But We are allowed to have GREAT things. This was once a storied franchise…long ago but not too long ago they were making annual trips to the AFC championship game.
Long question here but Can we acknowledge that Baker with help of others have pulled this franchise out of the dumpster but also acknowledge the limitations in his game and the sincere reservations that many should have about doubling down on an investment with Baker?
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Empty, thoughtless, jibber jabber from Dutch and Orion. I imagine you both distinctly resemble in voice the adults from Charlie Brown.
In my opinion, your whining disqualifies you from enjoying our football team after so much suffering.
Good day sirs *tips hat*
you both distinctly resemble in voice the adults from Charlie Brown.
I love peanuts.
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Empty, thoughtless, jibber jabber from Dutch and Orion. I imagine you both distinctly resemble in voice the adults from Charlie Brown.
In my opinion, your whining disqualifies you from enjoying our football team after so much suffering.
Good day sirs *tips hat*
Empty, thoughtless, jibber jabber from Dutch and Orion. I imagine you both distinctly resemble in voice the adults from Charlie Brown.
In my opinion, your whining disqualifies you from enjoying our football team after so much suffering.
Good day sirs *tips hat*
Glad you're happy with inconsistent mediocrity this season... Damn near anything is better than 0-16 right? Beat up Baker has posted a QBR averaged out to 54 in the last two games, with two touchdowns and three interceptions. That's third string backup territory Gunner. I mean- he had receivers wide open against the Lions, and couldn't even get the ball in the same area code a bunch of times. Starting with his first interception that he air mailed ten feet over Landry's head.
I mean we're not allowed to point out Mayfield played like shit the last two weeks? He himself admitted as much. And FWIW, if he's not willing to admit those injuries are affecting his performance, and take a seat for a couple weeks, it's enough to get some of us pissed off. We have one of the better backup QBs in the NFL in Keenum- I suggest it's time to start thinking about using him- especially if Baker comes out Sunday night and continues to suck.
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Fitting ? Plan B ?
Michigan Man joining rant sessions again...
Why is it that it’s always @richeisen that has to be the one with Common Sense & has to wake up some of the #Browns Fan Base. #ThankYouRichwho's calling Rich? click 'Watch on Twitter'#VictoryMondayBrowns & Buffett: Got to go fishin, Down to rock bottom again, with just a few Friends Team Brotherhood-"It's not about You,Me or I. It's about building We"..Hue Jackson -
Empty, thoughtless, jibber jabber from Dutch and Orion. I imagine you both distinctly resemble in voice the adults from Charlie Brown.
In my opinion, your whining disqualifies you from enjoying our football team after so much suffering.
Good day sirs *tips hat*
Glad you're happy with inconsistent mediocrity this season... Damn near anything is better than 0-16 right? Beat up Baker has posted a QBR averaged out to 54 in the last two games, with two touchdowns and three interceptions. That's third string backup territory Gunner. I mean- he had receivers wide open against the Lions, and couldn't even get the ball in the same area code a bunch of times. Starting with his first interception that he air mailed ten feet over Landry's head.
I mean we're not allowed to point out Mayfield played like shit the last two weeks? He himself admitted as much. And FWIW, if he's not willing to admit those injuries are affecting his performance, and take a seat for a couple weeks, it's enough to get some of us pissed off. We have one of the better backup QBs in the NFL in Keenum- I suggest it's time to start thinking about using him- especially if Baker comes out Sunday night and continues to suck.
We have one of the better backup QBs in the NFL in Keenum- I suggest it's time to start thinking about using him-
I don’t think Keenum’s last performance VS the Pats was awe inspiring.
What made you think he’s one of the better backups? Was it the 8 completions (6 yards per attempt) or the 3 sacks?
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From what I've seen of Keenum, I'm definitely in no rush to see him take over as qb, but...Mayfield is hurting himself right now, by trying to be a hero. Obviously, his injuries are affecting his play. He's not only prolonging his recovery, but he's also hurting the team, and possibly damaging his mental state and confidence. I would have no problem with Keenum taking over, and what ever happens, happens. I don't believe Mayfield is playing like crap just because he's a bad qb. I, personally, think he's a very good qb when healthy. Before the shoulder thing, he was one of the most accurate deep ball throwers. Now....well...I don't have to tell you, if you've been watching. It's pretty pathetic. I would much rather he just sit there and get better than embarrass himself every game.
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Emotion and wish projection no matter how fervent doesn't make Baker good in 2021 or moving forward.
I'm sure Baker's fanbois will continue to change the subject and make intentionally bad arguments [He's better than Kizer!] but that doesn't transmogrify Baker into some sort of top QB.
Unless, of course, your standards for Good Cleveland QB are the rules of Calvinball -- you make them up as you go.
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Zombo said:
What limitations?
Other than being hurt. This season got ugly right away with Wills going down in Week 1, then Hubbard, then Conklin.
As a consequence, Baker has been knocked around like never before, suffered three painful injuries that would have benched a lesser man ... and THAT has limited him.
But when he's healthy ... like last year ... what are his limitations? Please list them.
Z
Quickly….
Year 4 his ability to decipher coverage and make quick decisions is not up to a standard of QB that will probably command upwards of 30-35M. He holds onto the ball too long. He’s had problems with leaving clean pockets.
He’s a playaction QB but when placed outside of that fish bowl he struggles. See our 5 wide empty backfield struggles.
Hes struggled with throws outside of the hashes.
Good one week bad the next…hallmark of being average. The intangibles make him above average.
Off the charts competitor…strong arm….2020 deep ball was stellar.
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Zombo said:
Baker tells it like it is. No bullshit. My favorite Cleveland Brown in a long time.
I follow his wife on Insta. She posts great stuff, she shares fan posts, tons of them. Everyone jumps on this particular one that was in the mix and runs with it, as, sadly our culture has become.
I assure you she meant it as no swipe at the rest of the team. She has said so.
She's the one that sees him get out of bed in the morning with a purple shoulder, a purple knee and a purple foot. She sees him struggling to get up and go to treatment, she sees how much pain he is in when he gets home. Family Members are protective. Are we really upset that his wife reposted something protective of her husband?
It's not like his Daddy was posting videos of all the times he got hit and aimed it at his Oline and posted #FreeBaker and Baker stayed mum on it. What kind of asshole would do that to his teammates? Maybe some douchebag on the Rams ... That shit don't fly in Cleveland.
Keep being awesome, Baker, we got your back.
Most of us, anyway.
Z
Awesome Z? Not in the last two games. He pretty much sucked, and admitted as much. As I told Gunner- 54 qbr with two TDs and three interceptions. I'll posit Keenum (or some practice squad qB) could hardly have done done any worse. He's hurt- and those hurts ARE affecting his performance.
And to reply to your rebuttal of SC (Baker has a quick release) sure- but the problem is, at Tia has pointed out if you were listening. A quick release won't do you much good if your ability to decipher post snap reads is slow. You wonder why he dances around in the pocket if his primary read isn't open? There's your answer.
Yes Z Baker is a huge improvement over the likes of Brandon Weeden and Deshone Kizer... When he's healthy... Which he ISN'T right now. LOL- sadly, his performance against the Lions sort of reminded me of dear old Deshone's play. A healthy Baker is at least as good as the Bengals Andy Dalton who took Cincy to multiple years of playoffs.
The only valid excuse against the crappy Lions is he's hurt worse than he's letting on. He had everyone back except Conklin and DPJ- and he stunk. (Johnson's current level of play is more than an adequate replacement for Hunt) And if he's that hurt- he shouldn't be out there playing- MHO.
Zombo said:
We've won two out of three while he recovers, we're not going to make the switch now, or ever.
I'm glad we are on the road this week, in Primetime, Baker is going to shine, because no one has been harder on his performance than himself, and no one knows how to make it better than himself.
Then he gets two weeks off to rest his bruises, breaks and pains, and we continue our assault on the AFC North.
This storyline is setting us up for glory, I'm glad I will be able to say I backed him 100% when he was suffering, because the rewards are tenfold when you believe in something or someone.
Go get em, Brownies, we got them right where we want them!
Z
Can I have some of your Baker kool-aid? Mind over matter? It's bordering on arrogance. Hey- my nephew is hiking the Grand Canyon next spring.. Sure, I'll go with him- it will be way cool. But I'm realistic enough to say my 70 year old body isn't up for it anymore. I just hope Baker will do the same- that his body isn't doing what his mind is telling it to do.
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