electric cars are a stupid ass idea
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Doesn't seem like a weird target to me. They aren't practical nor affordable for a large portion of the population. Inflation is already a bitch, and none of those people want their tax dollars going to subsidize Teslas for rich, white suburbanites. I personally think the pollution cost of strip-mining for rare-earth metals is much worse for the environment than the carbon cost of internal combustion vehicles.
I guess it's a different flavor that Dr Seuss, Mr Potatohead, the green m&m, CRT, etc
But it definitely is a hot button issue, and more relevant to current events.
I'm of the mind we keep using governmental means to push infrastructure and adoption. It looks like it's succeeding with most major auto makers. The whole value chain needs to be sustainable though, as you've pointed out.
I guess it's a different flavor that Dr Seuss, Mr Potatohead, the green m&m, CRT, etc
But it definitely is a hot button issue, and more relevant to current events.
I'm of the mind we keep using governmental means to push infrastructure and adoption. It looks like it's succeeding with most major auto makers. The whole value chain needs to be sustainable though, as you've pointed out.
Sure, but they're not doing anything to ease pollution from metals mining. Just go to the third-world and mine it there. Pictured below is two decades of expansion of a nickel mine in the Philippines that abuts a tropical rainforest. The greens need to start having serious conversations about weighing the costs of carbon footprint against the cost of toxic pollution.
Side note - The expansion of this mine was in large part driven by the need for nickel in electric car batteries.
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7.5 billion going to charging stations. A bunch more money to upgrade the power grid. Upgrading the power grid by itself is going to save a shit load of energy. Not sure why we would need 3x more charging stations vs gas stations. No one has a gas station at home. Most people charge their car at home or work.
7.5 billion going to charging stations. A bunch more money to upgrade the power grid. Upgrading the power grid by itself is going to save a shit load of energy. Not sure why we would need 3x more charging stations vs gas stations. No one has a gas station at home. Most people charge their car at home or work.
You're... not sure why? Really? Maybe, and I know this is wacky, it's because it takes approximately 10x as long to half assed charge an electric vehicle as fill up at a gas station.
What the prime focus should be here is figuring how to charge the battery when driving, not just braking, in order to double the current range of the batteries. When they can do that they'll be in better shape. I have to assume me you've never worked on a construction project because let me tell you that infrastructure upgrade is going to take a long ass time. Especially if it's spearheaded by federal contractors.
Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind... -
7.5 billion going to charging stations. A bunch more money to upgrade the power grid. Upgrading the power grid by itself is going to save a shit load of energy. Not sure why we would need 3x more charging stations vs gas stations. No one has a gas station at home. Most people charge their car at home or work.
You're... not sure why? Really? Maybe, and I know this is wacky, it's because it takes approximately 10x as long to half assed charge an electric vehicle as fill up at a gas station.
What the prime focus should be here is figuring how to charge the battery when driving, not just braking, in order to double the current range of the batteries. When they can do that they'll be in better shape. I have to assume me you've never worked on a construction project because let me tell you that infrastructure upgrade is going to take a long ass time. Especially if it's spearheaded by federal contractors.
You're... not sure why? Really? Maybe, and I know this is wacky, it's because it takes approximately 10x as long to half assed charge an electric vehicle as fill up at a gas station.
What the prime focus should be here is figuring how to charge the battery when driving, not just breaking, in order to double the current range of the batteries. When they can do that they'll be in better shape. I have to assume me you've never worked on a construction project because let me tell you that infrastructure upgrade is going to take a long ass time. Especially if it's spearheaded by federal contractors.
Again to me the solution is simple. Standardized interchangeable batteries like propane tanks at the hardware store. And they have to be available at just about every gas station.
WSS
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You're... not sure why? Really? Maybe, and I know this is wacky, it's because it takes approximately 10x as long to half assed charge an electric vehicle as fill up at a gas station.
What the prime focus should be here is figuring how to charge the battery when driving, not just breaking, in order to double the current range of the batteries. When they can do that they'll be in better shape. I have to assume me you've never worked on a construction project because let me tell you that infrastructure upgrade is going to take a long ass time. Especially if it's spearheaded by federal contractors.
Again to me the solution is simple. Standardized interchangeable batteries like propane tanks at the hardware store. And they have to be available at just about every gas station.
WSS
Again to me the solution is simple. Standardized interchangeable batteries like propane tanks at the hardware store. And they have to be available at just about every gas station.
WSS
Pain in the ass though, isn't it. You have to get out and change your battery if you exceed your limits. And I imagine those batteries are a piece larger than your standard gasoline powered engine battery.
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Again to me the solution is simple. Standardized interchangeable batteries like propane tanks at the hardware store. And they have to be available at just about every gas station.
WSS
Pain in the ass though, isn't it. You have to get out and change your battery if you exceed your limits. And I imagine those batteries are a piece larger than your standard gasoline powered engine battery.
Pain in the ass though, isn't it. You have to get out and change your battery if you exceed your limits. And I imagine those batteries are a piece larger than your standard gasoline powered engine battery.
More or less pain in the ass than pulling into a station parking your car for for 5 or 6 hours? You can pull your car in and get an oil change in 15 minutes for 29 bucks. Auto parts stores and stole your battery or windshield wipers on the spot. Swapping out the battery would be easier than changing the oil.
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I have seen recently that states are starting to charge way more to register an electric car every year
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I have seen recently that states are starting to charge way more to register an electric car every year
I have seen recently that states are starting to charge way more to register an electric car every year
EV owners in Ohio have to pay $200 more.
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Pain in the ass though, isn't it. You have to get out and change your battery if you exceed your limits. And I imagine those batteries are a piece larger than your standard gasoline powered engine battery.
More or less pain in the ass than pulling into a station parking your car for for 5 or 6 hours? You can pull your car in and get an oil change in 15 minutes for 29 bucks. Auto parts stores and stole your battery or windshield wipers on the spot. Swapping out the battery would be easier than changing the oil.
WSS
More or less pain in the ass than pulling into a station parking your car for for 5 or 6 hours? You can pull your car in and get an oil change in 15 minutes for 29 bucks. Auto parts stores and stole your battery or windshield wipers on the spot. Swapping out the battery would be easier than changing the oil.
WSS
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7.5 billion going to charging stations. A bunch more money to upgrade the power grid. Upgrading the power grid by itself is going to save a shit load of energy. Not sure why we would need 3x more charging stations vs gas stations. No one has a gas station at home. Most people charge their car at home or work.
You're... not sure why? Really? Maybe, and I know this is wacky, it's because it takes approximately 10x as long to half assed charge an electric vehicle as fill up at a gas station.
What the prime focus should be here is figuring how to charge the battery when driving, not just braking, in order to double the current range of the batteries. When they can do that they'll be in better shape. I have to assume me you've never worked on a construction project because let me tell you that infrastructure upgrade is going to take a long ass time. Especially if it's spearheaded by federal contractors.
You're... not sure why? Really? Maybe, and I know this is wacky, it's because it takes approximately 10x as long to half assed charge an electric vehicle as fill up at a gas station.
What the prime focus should be here is figuring how to charge the battery when driving, not just braking, in order to double the current range of the batteries. When they can do that they'll be in better shape. I have to assume me you've never worked on a construction project because let me tell you that infrastructure upgrade is going to take a long ass time. Especially if it's spearheaded by federal contractors.
Most people don't need a charging station. You charge your vehicle at home or at work. Only time you need them if you are drive a long way. Average distance per day someone drives? 39 miles. Probably less now, since so many people are working from home.
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Average city person. However you might have noticed or maybe not but there's an awful lot of not city around.
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what next? ya have to have a certain permit to get a battery swap? I wonder how many battery swaps/recharges we would have had to do when we went on vacation out west - drove 4,000 miles......
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You may just be the dumbest person I've ever interacted with. Or you have 0 ability to perform a "sniff test" on what you see on the internet. Or you just don't care because it fits your narrative
We need to get older folks through basic internet competency courses...
That isn't an "electric car graveyard" in France. That pic is from China.
I get I'm supposed to "reason" with you. I'm supposed to walk through your beliefs and help coax you back from the edge, but it is clear that ship has sailed. Calling out your stupidity is all it's worth now.
once again we see misinformation as possibly the biggest issue currently facing our country (and I'm sure much of the world). Even though plenty of reputable places have done the work to show that caption to be false, they'll never reach the millions of people that have already seen this false pic. All of the people that used this to enforce their own beliefs or the few that this actually swayed (or kicked them down the start of a rabbit hole). The correction will only reach a fraction of the original audience. The damage is done.
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The average American isn't going to be needing to use a mobile charging station. They'll charge at home in their garage at night (or at work if they're lucky). The average daily commute isn't going to use more than the range of the battery.
Yes Cysko, you drive around more for work, got it. I'm talking about the average American and their typical day. And yes, planned longer commutes may need a charging stop (or multiple) along the way (At least for now)
Thinking about how often you go to the gas station and then assuming all of those stops will be long charging sessions is false, as that is not is how it would work out for most people on most days.
and the battery is designed to last the life of the car, and it is under warranty, so very few consumers are ever going to need to front the cost of a battery replacement
Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody! -
The average American isn't going to be needing to use a mobile charging station. They'll charge at home in their garage at night (or at work if they're lucky). The average daily commute isn't going to use more than the range of the battery.
Yes Cysko, you drive around more for work, got it. I'm talking about the average American and their typical day. And yes, planned longer commutes may need a charging stop (or multiple) along the way (At least for now)
Thinking about how often you go to the gas station and then assuming all of those stops will be long charging sessions is false, as that is not is how it would work out for most people on most days.
and the battery is designed to last the life of the car, and it is under warranty, so very few consumers are ever going to need to front the cost of a battery replacement
The average American isn't going to be needing to use a mobile charging station. They'll charge at home in their garage at night (or at work if they're lucky). The average daily commute isn't going to use more than the range of the battery.
Yes Cysko, you drive around more for work, got it. I'm talking about the average American and their typical day. And yes, planned longer commutes may need a charging stop (or multiple) along the way (At least for now)
Thinking about how often you go to the gas station and then assuming all of those stops will be long charging sessions is false, as that is not is how it would work out for most people on most days.
and the battery is designed to last the life of the car, and it is under warranty, so very few consumers are ever going to need to front the cost of a battery replacement
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Even EV dealerships know there product is stupid.
But it’s making them money so they don’t give a shit.
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Even EV dealerships know there product is stupid.
But it’s making them money so they don’t give a shit.
Even EV dealerships know there product is stupid.
But it’s making them money so they don’t give a shit.
I don't think they believe the products are stupid but but they do know they will have to find a way to make them practical. But I do believe that when government gives you the profit instead of private sector real world research gets put on the back burner.
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So what does Joe average, that old ev consumer, do when their lifetime battery starts degrading badly in 1-3 years? Just drop another 80k for a new model like an iPhone I imagine. There's a reason devices all went to non user servicible batteries. So that they can bend you over and fuck your butt for maximum profit.
By the way lithium is in just as short supply as oil. In fact it seems to be worse. Unless they can devise new battery technology that replaces lithium with something abundant this shit will be dead in the water in 25 years.
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