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  • @laiccm said:

    Is it because he is trying to buy loyalty?

    Is it because he is apologizing for what they are going through because of him?

    Honestly trying to team build?

    A mixture of the 3?

    Nah, money laundering. 

    He's been watching too much Ozark lately.

    @tiamat63 said:

    Nah, money laundering. 

    He's been watching too much Ozark lately.

    Money laundering.   😆 

    My wife has me watching Ozark now.  

  • @tiamat63 said:

    Nah, money laundering. 

    He's been watching too much Ozark lately.

    Money laundering.   😆 

    My wife has me watching Ozark now.  

    @mjp28 said:

    Money laundering.   😆 

    My wife has me watching Ozark now.  

    I'm still on season 1 lol...Havent watched in awhile

  • Just to focus on the current ongoing problems like I always say follow the money.  Just look at the guaranteed money and signing bonuses. 

    Is he worth what the BROWNS have shelled out so far and how much to repair the BROWNS' image and more.  A colossal mess and they are married to it for years.

    Will a Super Bowl make it even ? Maybe. 

    Current Contract

    Deshaun Watson signed a 5 year, $230,000,000 contract with the Cleveland Browns, including a $44,965,000 signing bonus, $230,000,000 guaranteed, and an average annual salary of $46,000,000. In 2022, Watson will earn a base salary of $1,035,000 and a signing bonus of $44,965,000, while carrying a cap hit of $10,028,000 and a dead cap value of $230,000,000.

    His age....base salary....signing bonus.....cap hit...dead cap...yearly cash.  Nice franchise quarterback numbers.   😮

    CONTRACT TERMS:5 yr(s) / $230,000,000 SIGNING BONUS$44,965,000 AVERAGE SALARY$46,000,000 GTD AT SIGN:$230,000,000 TOTAL GTD:$230,000,000 FREE AGENT:2027 / UFA
      BONUS BREAKDOWN CAP DETAILS CASH DETAILS  
    YEAR   AGE BASE bSALARBaseY SIGNING CAP HIT DEAD CAP YEARLY CASH
    2022   27 $1,035,000 $8,993,000 $10,028,000 $230,000,000 $46,000,000($46,000,000)
    2023   28 $46,000,000 $8,993,000 $54,993,000 $219,972,000 $46,000,000($92,000,000)
    2024   29 $46,000,000 $8,993,000 $54,993,000 $164,979,000 $46,000,000($138,000,000)
    2025   30 $46,000,000 $8,993,000 $54,993,000 $109,986,000 $46,000,000($184,000,000)
    2026   31 $46,000,000 $8,993,000 $54,993,000 $54,993,000 $46,000,000($230,000,000)
    2027   32 UFA  
    Contract Notes:
    • $230M guaranteed (signing bonus + 2022 salary + 2023 salary + 2024 salary + 2025 salary + 2026 salary)
    • $44.965M Signing Bonus
    • Language exists that will not forfeit signing bonus or void future guarantees upon suspension

    @mjp28 said:

    Just to focus on the current ongoing problems like I always say follow the money.  Just look at the guaranteed money and signing bonuses. 

    Is he worth what the BROWNS have shelled out so far and how much to repair the BROWNS' image and more.  A colossal mess and they are married to it for years.

    Will a Super Bowl make it even ? Maybe. 

    Current Contract

    Deshaun Watson signed a 5 year, $230,000,000 contract with the Cleveland Browns, including a $44,965,000 signing bonus, $230,000,000 guaranteed, and an average annual salary of $46,000,000. In 2022, Watson will earn a base salary of $1,035,000 and a signing bonus of $44,965,000, while carrying a cap hit of $10,028,000 and a dead cap value of $230,000,000.

    The yearly numbers.....base salary....salary.....cap hit...dead cap...yearly cash.  Nice franchise numbers.   😮

    CONTRACT TERMS:5 yr(s) / $230,000,000 SIGNING BONUS$44,965,000 AVERAGE SALARY$46,000,000 GTD AT SIGN:$230,000,000 TOTAL GTD:$230,000,000 FREE AGENT:2027 / UFA
      BONUS BREAKDOWN CAP DETAILS CASH DETAILS  
    YEAR   AGE BASE bSALARBaseY SIGNING CAP HIT DEAD CAP YEARLY CASH
    2022   27 $1,035,000 $8,993,000 $10,028,000 $230,000,000 $46,000,000($46,000,000)
    2023   28 $46,000,000 $8,993,000 $54,993,000 $219,972,000 $46,000,000($92,000,000)
    2024   29 $46,000,000 $8,993,000 $54,993,000 $164,979,000 $46,000,000($138,000,000)
    2025   30 $46,000,000 $8,993,000 $54,993,000 $109,986,000 $46,000,000($184,000,000)
    2026   31 $46,000,000 $8,993,000 $54,993,000 $54,993,000 $46,000,000($230,000,000)
    2027   32 UFA  
    Contract Notes:
    • $230M guaranteed (signing bonus + 2022 salary + 2023 salary + 2024 salary + 2025 salary + 2026 salary)
    • $44.965M Signing Bonus
    • Language exists that will not forfeit signing bonus or void future guarantees upon suspension

    That is a nice chart.  Thanks for posting.

    While it looks steep today, It probably won't look as steep in a few years.

    We keep hearing the cap is going up, though we don't know where that may go.  I suspect the teams have a pretty good idea where things are going, and through the NFLPA, agents have a pretty good idea where things are headed.  That is why you are seeing guys reluctant to sign, or just demanding large numbers now.  Right now Watsons slice of the pic chart may seem out of proportion, but the pie is about to get bigger where his portion will fall in to more of the norm that we are used to.

  • Zombo said:

    I think it is because he has $243 M guaranteed. 

    If I had $243 M, I'd spend $300,000 on you schleps.

    And still have $242.7 M

    Z

    Hell, if I just had a million dollars, I'd buy you guys a green dress, but not a real green dress.

    That would be cruel. 

    @dutch-oven said:

    Hell, if I just had a million dollars, I'd buy you guys a green dress, but not a real green dress.

    That would be cruel. 

    I thought this was more your style. ??

    Lady Gaga meat dress.jpg

    Gaga wearing the meat dress at the 2010 MTV Video Music Awards
  • OK Sunday School is over time to go out and play.   Or go take a nap.

    Meanwhile,  we have some really nice T-bones ready to go on the grill.  Spinach salad w/buttermilk ranch, black olives, BP w/butter s&p and sour cream.  Chocolate mouse pie for dessert.  ❤️ 

    Now who didn't see that coming ?   😆

  • OK Sunday School is over time to go out and play.   Or go take a nap.

    Meanwhile,  we have some really nice T-bones ready to go on the grill.  Spinach salad w/buttermilk ranch, black olives, BP w/butter s&p and sour cream.  Chocolate mouse pie for dessert.  ❤️ 

    Now who didn't see that coming ?   😆

    @mjp28 said:

    OK Sunday School is over time to go out and play.   Or go take a nap.

    Meanwhile,  we have some really nice T-bones ready to go on the grill.  Spinach salad w/buttermilk ranch, black olives, BP w/butter s&p and sour cream.  Chocolate mouse pie for dessert.  ❤️ 

    Now who didn't see that coming ?   😆

    NY strip, baked 'tater, broccoli, Pine Club onion rings.  LOL and plenty of wine.  Rombauer chardonnay, Marques de Caceres Rioja Riserva, and a special birthday after dinner treat- a 1992 Taylor Fladgate vintage Port.  🙂 

    Though I don't normally advertise it,  besides our British Browns Backer Gareth Hubbard, I also share a birthday with Jerry West. 

    And before I get grief from the temperance police, haven't had a drop today- yet.    

  • @mjp28 said:

    OK Sunday School is over time to go out and play.   Or go take a nap.

    Meanwhile,  we have some really nice T-bones ready to go on the grill.  Spinach salad w/buttermilk ranch, black olives, BP w/butter s&p and sour cream.  Chocolate mouse pie for dessert.  ❤️ 

    Now who didn't see that coming ?   😆

    NY strip, baked 'tater, broccoli, Pine Club onion rings.  LOL and plenty of wine.  Rombauer chardonnay, Marques de Caceres Rioja Riserva, and a special birthday after dinner treat- a 1992 Taylor Fladgate vintage Port.  🙂 

    Though I don't normally advertise it,  besides our British Browns Backer Gareth Hubbard, I also share a birthday with Jerry West. 

    And before I get grief from the temperance police, haven't had a drop today- yet.    

    @hoorta said:

    NY strip, baked 'tater, broccoli, Pine Club onion rings.  LOL and plenty of wine.  Rombauer chardonnay, Marques de Caceres Rioja Riserva, and a special birthday after dinner treat- a 1992 Taylor Fladgate vintage Port.  🙂 

    Though I don't normally advertise it,  besides our British Browns Backer Gareth Hubbard, I also share a birthday with Jerry West. 

    And before I get grief from the temperance police, haven't had a drop today- yet.    

    We generally go ribeye, porterhouse,  strip but occasionally some other cuts demand a look depending on marbling,  price and other things.   Oh BTW the T-bones were really good tonight,  great potatoes and a good spinach salad w/sides of black olives and really juicy artichokes.   Mmm-mmm. 

    Better STOP  before we get exiled to the GAMEDAY food thread !

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  • @calfoxwc said:

    If you had stayed out of it, moron, I would have not said anything else.

    I'll take you up on that bet for a root beer. If you say nothing more about the Browns QB Watson, you win the root beer. I'll take a caffeine free Coke Zero.

  • Just for the record nothing wrong with thinking Watson is a scumbag. I think everyone here, as well as  in Berea believes he is and we just all have our own levels of dealing with it.

    Also ....

    Ahh forget it. I'm having Chinese for Memorial Day.

    WSS

  • Just for the record nothing wrong with thinking Watson is a scumbag. I think everyone here, as well as  in Berea believes he is and we just all have our own levels of dealing with it.

    Also ....

    Ahh forget it. I'm having Chinese for Memorial Day.

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    Just for the record nothing wrong with thinking Watson is a scumbag. I think everyone here, as well as  in Berea believes he is and we just all have our own levels of dealing with it.

    Also ....

    Ahh forget it. I'm having Chinese for Memorial Day.

    WSS

    All that being said to try to keep your politics off the BB

    Thanks

    WSS

  • Just for the record nothing wrong with thinking Watson is a scumbag. I think everyone here, as well as  in Berea believes he is and we just all have our own levels of dealing with it.

    Also ....

    Ahh forget it. I'm having Chinese for Memorial Day.

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    Ahh forget it. I'm having Chinese for Memorial Day.

    WSS

    Traitor. ?

  • @westside-steve said:

    Ahh forget it. I'm having Chinese for Memorial Day.

    WSS

    Traitor. ?

    @texasag1969 said:

    Traitor. ?

    A lot of holidays Susan has her children and grandchildren over for a pool party at I get the hell out of Dodge. I visit my sister in Carrollton and on Memorial Day the only restaurant open what is the Chinese place God bless them. Of course Chop Suey and chow mein are as American as apple pie. Which probably isn't even American anyway. ?

    Normally we would visit Jimmy's Backyard BBQ.

    WSS

  • Have they decide if douchan watson is playing?

  • Have they decide if douchan watson is playing?

  • Just for the record nothing wrong with thinking Watson is a scumbag. I think everyone here, as well as  in Berea believes he is and we just all have our own levels of dealing with it.

    Also ....

    Ahh forget it. I'm having Chinese for Memorial Day.

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    Just for the record nothing wrong with thinking Watson is a scumbag. I think everyone here, as well as  in Berea believes he is and we just all have our own levels of dealing with it.

    Also ....

    Ahh forget it. I'm having Chinese for Memorial Day.

    WSS

    Of course, most of us have the opinion Watson is various shades of a scumbag.... But there's no need to keep on beating your opinion of the matter into the ground- say around 20 times.  🙂 

    Speaking of China... those folks there are getting pretty sly. I just got an email (very authentic looking, supposedly from Directv) with a return path of at&tservices.cn, not at&tservices.com . .cn is China.  ?  Cybercrooks are upping their game, use extreme caution.  

  • @westside-steve said:

    Just for the record nothing wrong with thinking Watson is a scumbag. I think everyone here, as well as  in Berea believes he is and we just all have our own levels of dealing with it.

    Also ....

    Ahh forget it. I'm having Chinese for Memorial Day.

    WSS

    Of course, most of us have the opinion Watson is various shades of a scumbag.... But there's no need to keep on beating your opinion of the matter into the ground- say around 20 times.  🙂 

    Speaking of China... those folks there are getting pretty sly. I just got an email (very authentic looking, supposedly from Directv) with a return path of at&tservices.cn, not at&tservices.com . .cn is China.  ?  Cybercrooks are upping their game, use extreme caution.  

    @hoorta said:

    Of course, most of us have the opinion Watson is various shades of a scumbag.... But there's no need to keep on beating your opinion of the matter into the ground- say around 20 times.  🙂 

    Speaking of China... those folks there are getting pretty sly. I just got an email (very authentic looking, supposedly from Directv) with a return path of at&tservices.cn, not at&tservices.com . .cn is China.  ?  Cybercrooks are upping their game, use extreme caution.  

    As far as Watson it seems like everybody else on the board is fine with it. I'm holding my nose and wishing for the best. People have short memories. Good? Bad? Who knows it is what it is.

    Frankly I don't think it should be against the law to be rude to women. I think it's the woman's job to tell DeShawn pay for your fucking massageand g t f o. That's what I'd tell you if you asked me for sex. ?‍? And I figure prostitution is a two-way street. On the other hand if any of my friends were going to hookers on a daily or weekly basis it would creep me out oh. How about you?

    But honestly I would root for Watson before I would root for Michael Vick. I bet some of these guys would be fine with Vick.

    ???

    ??Yeah the way they deliver anything gets stranger and stranger exponentially as the years go by. I have DirecTV and Spectrum and Verizon for my phone and DirecTV is now a t and t oh... probably all going to be consolidated sooner or later. Or fractured even worse.

    wSS

  • Back to the subject of legal matters apparently there's one more dame that decided to file a complaint. For what that's worth. Which is probably not very much.

    "Deshaun Watson has new lawsuit filed against him, makes total 23" https://nypost.com/2022/05/31/deshaun-watson-has-new-lawsuit-filed-against-him-makes-total-23/amp/#aoh=16540778638010&amp_ct=1654077888432&csi=1&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&amp_tf=From %1%24s&amp_agsa_csa=46731822&amp_ct=1654077888436

    WSS

  • Back to the subject of legal matters apparently there's one more dame that decided to file a complaint. For what that's worth. Which is probably not very much.

    "Deshaun Watson has new lawsuit filed against him, makes total 23" https://nypost.com/2022/05/31/deshaun-watson-has-new-lawsuit-filed-against-him-makes-total-23/amp/#aoh=16540778638010&amp_ct=1654077888432&csi=1&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&amp_tf=From %1%24s&amp_agsa_csa=46731822&amp_ct=1654077888436

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    Back to the subject of legal matters apparently there's one more dame that decided to file a complaint. For what that's worth. Which is probably not very much.

    "Deshaun Watson has new lawsuit filed against him, makes total 23" https://nypost.com/2022/05/31/deshaun-watson-has-new-lawsuit-filed-against-him-makes-total-23/amp/#aoh=16540778638010&amp_ct=1654077888432&csi=1&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&amp_tf=From %1%24s&amp_agsa_csa=46731822&amp_ct=1654077888436

    WSS

    Interesting comments after this article:

    https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2021/03/23/the-flaws-in-the-statements-issued-on-behalf-of-deshaun-watson/

  • @westside-steve said:

    Ahh forget it. I'm having Chinese for Memorial Day.

    WSS

    Traitor. ?

    @texasag1969 said:

    Traitor. ?

    99 percent of the 'Chinese' food you eat in America isn't.  It's americanized junk.

  • @texasag1969 said:

    Traitor. ?

    99 percent of the 'Chinese' food you eat in America isn't.  It's americanized junk.

    @diehardbrownsfan1 said:

    99 percent of the 'Chinese' food you eat in America isn't.  It's americanized junk.

    And I, for one, absolutely love Americanized to junk food!

    WSS