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  • If we were all so lucky enough to get paid & play on the NFL stages as players? Oh,,,It's fine-able & suspend-able in the NFL workplace... So here we are.. 

    Watson RULES-- Watson has also been fined $5 million and ordered to commit to counseling and treatment.

    * Aug. 30 at 4 p.m.(53 cut-down day)  -- Watson must vacate the CrossCountry Mortgage Campus in Berea to begin the suspension, and will be prohibited from returning until midway through his ban.

     
     

    * Oct. 10 -- Following Week 5 of the season, the day after the Browns’ home game against the Chargers on Oct. 9, Watson can return to Berea for limited team activities -- meetings and lifting -- to get reacclimated. The rule, borrowed from the NFL’s substance abuse policy, is that he can return half-way through his suspension, and the policy favors the player, so it’s after five games.

    * Nov. 14 -- Watson may begin practicing with the Browns for the last two weeks of his suspension. It’s the day after the Browns play at Miami.

     
     

    * Nov. 28 -- Watson becomes eligible to play in games and can participate fully in all team activities.

     
     

    * Dec. 4 -- Watson is eligible to play in Houston against his former team. It will mark 700 days since his previous game on Jan. 3, 2021.

    :REGULAR SEASON: Suspended without pay for the first 11 games and may return on Nov. 28 (not weeks, but games; Browns have bye in Week 9).

     
    If you got to here.. You've read half of below link 

    Here are other rules, as provided by the NFL

    https://www.cleveland.com/browns/2022/08/rules-for-deshaun-watsons-11-game-suspension-when-he-must-leave-when-he-can-return-and-everything-in-between.html

  • This is the part that concerns me the most :

     Dec. 4 -- Watson is eligible to play in Houston against his former team. It will mark 700 days since his previous game on Jan. 3, 2021.   

    How can someone,  anyone miss 700 games and be near ready to play professional football in the NFL.   Plus the mental wear and tear, hmmmm.

    I guess we'll see. 

  • For those fans of Jimmy G wondering/pondering trade? ?  

    week 8
     
    The 2022 trade deadline is set for November 1st. This is the Tuesday following week 8 of the 2022 season...
     
    IMHO...  Jimmy ain't packing his family moving East for 9-12 weeks... our bye is in week 9
  • No double jeapardy?  What was the first grand jury for?  This to show how much the nfl cares??  Stupid look imho.  

    @kvoethe said:

    What was the first grand jury for?

    You know what Tony Buzbee's hotel alias name is? Tony Buzbee.

    The grand juries established that Watson didn't do anything criminal.  My money still says Texans ginned up the whole thing once they received his trade demand -- because they could.  How dare someone not want to play for them, etc etc.

    At least now everyone involved can burn the ceremonial candle that smells of freshly signed divorce papers.

  • @kvoethe said:

    What was the first grand jury for?

    You know what Tony Buzbee's hotel alias name is? Tony Buzbee.

    The grand juries established that Watson didn't do anything criminal.  My money still says Texans ginned up the whole thing once they received his trade demand -- because they could.  How dare someone not want to play for them, etc etc.

    At least now everyone involved can burn the ceremonial candle that smells of freshly signed divorce papers.

    @unsympathetic said:

    You know what Tony Buzbee's hotel alias name is? Tony Buzbee.

    Right.  Any hotel/motel night manager would look at it and think Tony Buzbee yeah right, lol.    😆 

    A buddy of mine was a nights, weekends especially during the summer. motel manager during college to make a few extra bucks.....and he was a 6' 7"  280 lb DE for a B10 team.   And great way to study or read.  He had some really good stories.   Great fake IDs for liquor and a room place.

    He actually liked the job. 

  • @hoorta said:

    Out of curiosity, I did check and there are Watson jerseys for sale at the NFL Shop.  I suspect they're not a big seller. You can get Mayfield jerseys 1\2 off though.  🙂  That's why I quit buying jerseys with a player's name on it, I have a Tim Couch jersey gathering dust in the basement.  

    I did pull the trigger on a Nick Chubb jersey and luckily it has worked out well so far. I seriously was contemplating just having a jersey made with an old-school player, like Motley, Graham or Warfield. 

    I got a Guardians shirt made prior to the season with... Franmil Reyes' name and number on it. After hitting bombs for two seasons for Cleveland, I get the shirt and he promptly goes in the tank and gets released two weeks ago. ?

    @dutch-oven said:

    I did pull the trigger on a Nick Chubb jersey and luckily it has worked out well so far. I seriously was contemplating just having a jersey made with an old-school player, like Motley, Graham or Warfield. 

    I got a Guardians shirt made prior to the season with... Franmil Reyes' name and number on it. After hitting bombs for two seasons for Cleveland, I get the shirt and he promptly goes in the tank and gets released two weeks ago. ?

    My Browns jerseys have Westside across the back and the number 70 for my graduating class. If I was going to wear a player jersey it would be 17 for Brian Sipe 72 for Jerry Sherkk 73 for Doug Dieken or 12 for Don Cockroft

    Wife has a #6.

    WSS

  • It would have been interesting how the last five months would have gone down on here if the Browns would have been able to trade for Russell Wilson, instead of Watson. 

    Obviously, Wilson would not have had the off-field shenanigans to deal with, but he's like 33 years old, and the price tag to get him was still very high. Would there have been people upset to pay such a price for a QB his age? Would have the Baker fans been still mad the Browns moved on from him? 

    We'll never know, but at least, I guess, we know when Watson will eventually play again. 

  • I've got a #32 in Brown and a semi-long sleeve in white.  I've got a brown double zero that says VETTEDAWG on the back.  I've always meant to buy a Kosar jersey...but have never followed through.  Oh!  And I have a #82 that shrunk in the closet.  🙂 

  • It would have been interesting how the last five months would have gone down on here if the Browns would have been able to trade for Russell Wilson, instead of Watson. 

    Obviously, Wilson would not have had the off-field shenanigans to deal with, but he's like 33 years old, and the price tag to get him was still very high. Would there have been people upset to pay such a price for a QB his age? Would have the Baker fans been still mad the Browns moved on from him? 

    We'll never know, but at least, I guess, we know when Watson will eventually play again. 

    @dutch-oven said:

    we know when Watson will eventually play again.

    How much will he weigh by then?

  • @dutch-oven said:

    we know when Watson will eventually play again.

    How much will he weigh by then?

    @orion said:

    How much will he weigh by then?

    See, I watched a segment on him on ESPN earlier this evening, and I must be blind, because he sure didn't look heavy too me?

    But this season is pretty much screwed. I don't have much optimism, and of course, this is the season my buddy gets season tickets and I'll be going to a few games. 

  • @dutch-oven said:

    I did pull the trigger on a Nick Chubb jersey and luckily it has worked out well so far. I seriously was contemplating just having a jersey made with an old-school player, like Motley, Graham or Warfield. 

    I got a Guardians shirt made prior to the season with... Franmil Reyes' name and number on it. After hitting bombs for two seasons for Cleveland, I get the shirt and he promptly goes in the tank and gets released two weeks ago. ?

    My Browns jerseys have Westside across the back and the number 70 for my graduating class. If I was going to wear a player jersey it would be 17 for Brian Sipe 72 for Jerry Sherkk 73 for Doug Dieken or 12 for Don Cockroft

    Wife has a #6.

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    My Browns jerseys have Westside across the back and the number 70 for my graduating class. If I was going to wear a player jersey it would be 17 for Brian Sipe 72 for Jerry Sherkk 73 for Doug Dieken or 12 for Don Cockroft

    Wife has a #6.

    WSS

    I have a #2 and a counterbalancing #95. Who could they be?🙄

  • @westside-steve said:

    My Browns jerseys have Westside across the back and the number 70 for my graduating class. If I was going to wear a player jersey it would be 17 for Brian Sipe 72 for Jerry Sherkk 73 for Doug Dieken or 12 for Don Cockroft

    Wife has a #6.

    WSS

    I have a #2 and a counterbalancing #95. Who could they be?🙄

    @texasag1969 said:

    I have a #2 and a counterbalancing #95. Who could they be?🙄

    Don't know if you are a Browns fan long enough to be a Tim Couch guy?

    Just kidding; Johnny.

    Add as a newcomer, and Lone Star guy Miles?

    WSS

  • @texasag1969 said:

    I have a #2 and a counterbalancing #95. Who could they be?🙄

    Don't know if you are a Browns fan long enough to be a Tim Couch guy?

    Just kidding; Johnny.

    Add as a newcomer, and Lone Star guy Miles?

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    Don't know if you are a Browns fan long enough to be a Tim Couch guy?

    Just kidding; Johnny.

    Add as a newcomer, and Lone Star guy Miles?

    WSS

    Or Myles.  LOL!?

    But keep an eye on Aggie #61 for 2024 draft (see the thread on Centers). He's our next great pro IMO. If healthy a top 10 pick easily for a Center needy team. Heart of a rebuilt (3 starting true freshmen) OL last year. He runs the OL and strong/athletic guy.

  • AxeA Axe

    @d-bone said:

    I hope Jacoby makes it impossible for Stef to take him out week 12. 

    That's unlikely but Jacoby has never been on a team of this caliber so I expect him to play

    @axe said:

    That's unlikely but Jacoby has never been on a team of this caliber so I expect him to play

    Not to be a buzz kill.  As much as people keep talking about all of the talent on this team, neither of the 1st 2 teams Amari Cooper played for kept him around for another contract.  DPJ remains untapped despite what that long hook-up for a TD vrs Cincy showed. I like his 17.56 yards a catch. Schwartz is still the same waste of time he was last year.   This is supposed to be a TE friendly offense and yet Hooper was a big disappointment.  Njoku got a huge contract for his improvement; but this was a 1st round pick that hasn't given this team anything close to the consistency/reliability a guy like Travis Kelce has provided even before Mahomes arrived.

    So, how do the Browns do when/if all they can do is run the ball vrs opponents that are well prepared for this reality?  If we have nothing to fear on the perimeter, this doesn't help whoever is playing QB.  

  • N Neo

    Ok, it's been settled, punishment has been doled out. So how long are the people going to hold on to this? How many snarky comments about Watson do I have to read on anything Browns related that don't have anything to do with Watson? Because we all know how many perfect people there are out there with nothing to hide.

    @neo said:

    Ok, it's been settled, punishment has been doled out. So how long are the people going to hold on to this? How many snarky comments about Watson do I have to read on anything Browns related that don't have anything to do with Watson? Because we all know how many perfect people there are out there with nothing to hide.

    Just because its settled it does not mean we have to like the sleazeball..

  • @dutch-oven said:

    we know when Watson will eventually play again.

    How much will he weigh by then?

    @orion said:

    How much will he weigh by then?

    A couple of sliders short of a food truck...

  • N Neo

    Ok, it's been settled, punishment has been doled out. So how long are the people going to hold on to this? How many snarky comments about Watson do I have to read on anything Browns related that don't have anything to do with Watson? Because we all know how many perfect people there are out there with nothing to hide.

    @neo said:

    Ok, it's been settled, punishment has been doled out. So how long are the people going to hold on to this? How many snarky comments about Watson do I have to read on anything Browns related that don't have anything to do with Watson? Because we all know how many perfect people there are out there with nothing to hide.

    For sure nobody is perfect, yeah.  But the amount of times he trespassed the line of what is right and what is wrong is enough to say that he should be punished. 

    One person I thought about when I read your post was Vick.  What is the difference?  He did an awful thing, but spent his time in jail and got suspended, apologized sincerely and never committed such crimes again. 

    As of Watson? 

    1. He won't spend time in jail (it is not a crime or there is not enough evidence, but that doesn't mean he did any good) 

    2. He made a late half ass apology that no one buys. 

    3. Time hasn't passed so we can't confirm he has been "reinstated"  and isn't coming back to his "old ways". 

    I want to talk about football and I'm glad the punishment has finally been settled, but this is a fuckup not only by Watson, but also by the NFL (with the two judges shenanigans), Houston and the Browns, and we will hear from it for some time, and deservedly so. 

  • Did anyone else think of the song "the heat is on" from beverly hills cop?  As soon as I read the title...i had a brain worm.  Hahahaha.

  • @dutch-oven said:

    we know when Watson will eventually play again.

    How much will he weigh by then?

    @orion said:

    How much will he weigh by then?

    Hopefully not as much as Mayfield did when he looked like the pIllsbury dough boy.

  • @axe said:

    That's unlikely but Jacoby has never been on a team of this caliber so I expect him to play

    Not to be a buzz kill.  As much as people keep talking about all of the talent on this team, neither of the 1st 2 teams Amari Cooper played for kept him around for another contract.  DPJ remains untapped despite what that long hook-up for a TD vrs Cincy showed. I like his 17.56 yards a catch. Schwartz is still the same waste of time he was last year.   This is supposed to be a TE friendly offense and yet Hooper was a big disappointment.  Njoku got a huge contract for his improvement; but this was a 1st round pick that hasn't given this team anything close to the consistency/reliability a guy like Travis Kelce has provided even before Mahomes arrived.

    So, how do the Browns do when/if all they can do is run the ball vrs opponents that are well prepared for this reality?  If we have nothing to fear on the perimeter, this doesn't help whoever is playing QB.  

    @flugel said:

    Not to be a buzz kill.  As much as people keep talking about all of the talent on this team, neither of the 1st 2 teams Amari Cooper played for kept him around for another contract.  DPJ remains untapped despite what that long hook-up for a TD vrs Cincy showed. I like his 17.56 yards a catch. Schwartz is still the same waste of time he was last year.   This is supposed to be a TE friendly offense and yet Hooper was a big disappointment.  Njoku got a huge contract for his improvement; but this was a 1st round pick that hasn't given this team anything close to the consistency/reliability a guy like Travis Kelce has provided even before Mahomes arrived.

    So, how do the Browns do when/if all they can do is run the ball vrs opponents that are well prepared for this reality?  If we have nothing to fear on the perimeter, this doesn't help whoever is playing QB.  

    I think when we talk about talent, the primary in mind are the things that make a team competitive...

    - strength in the trenches

    - running game 

    Save for my concerns about the IDL, the Browns have a pair of the best guards in the NFL and a functional set of tackles. That's not including Conklin coming back and being healthy (dear god, please) 

    We also have a great pass rush, and our running game speaks for itself. 

    Jacoby hasn't been part of a team as a starter with that sort of blessing since his time in New England, and even then they have more role players than dominant individual skill players.   And yes, Miami's Oline was pretty spotty. 

    Cooper, despite being traded to the cowboys and then us, is still a pretty proven vertical commodity.  DPJ is an enigma that I'm hoping catches on. And Njoku was an athlete who is finally flashing glimpses of the complete player we've been hoping he'd grow into. The last 3 years, his drop rates have all declined significantly, his blocking both inline and on the perimeter has improved as well.   I believe it's not a giant leap of faith to say he can produce more when we have an offense that is QB and volume centric.  Which we won't see probably until this time next year. 

     So there is a bit of projection on the talent available here. But not such a stretch to say it isn't a reality that can be realized.  

    To me, David Bell is the gear that could make this engine really go in time.  He just has that pro style look to his game where, nothing he does is flashy, but he consistently wins his routes and gives his QB a friend at almost every level of the field between his footwork, height and hands.   

    Schwartz is a luxury. If he develops, that's great.  If not, I would consider him on punt returns and possibly making him a weapon for field position. But if I can't trust you to catch, then I can't trust you to field returns cleanly.