Watson Suspended for 11 Games and Fined $5 Million / and a bit OT and back.
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I've got a #32 in Brown and a semi-long sleeve in white. I've got a brown double zero that says VETTEDAWG on the back. I've always meant to buy a Kosar jersey...but have never followed through. Oh! And I have a #82 that shrunk in the closet.
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It would have been interesting how the last five months would have gone down on here if the Browns would have been able to trade for Russell Wilson, instead of Watson.
Obviously, Wilson would not have had the off-field shenanigans to deal with, but he's like 33 years old, and the price tag to get him was still very high. Would there have been people upset to pay such a price for a QB his age? Would have the Baker fans been still mad the Browns moved on from him?
We'll never know, but at least, I guess, we know when Watson will eventually play again.
we know when Watson will eventually play again.
How much will he weigh by then?
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we know when Watson will eventually play again.
How much will he weigh by then?
How much will he weigh by then?
See, I watched a segment on him on ESPN earlier this evening, and I must be blind, because he sure didn't look heavy too me?
But this season is pretty much screwed. I don't have much optimism, and of course, this is the season my buddy gets season tickets and I'll be going to a few games.
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I did pull the trigger on a Nick Chubb jersey and luckily it has worked out well so far. I seriously was contemplating just having a jersey made with an old-school player, like Motley, Graham or Warfield.
I got a Guardians shirt made prior to the season with... Franmil Reyes' name and number on it. After hitting bombs for two seasons for Cleveland, I get the shirt and he promptly goes in the tank and gets released two weeks ago. ?
My Browns jerseys have Westside across the back and the number 70 for my graduating class. If I was going to wear a player jersey it would be 17 for Brian Sipe 72 for Jerry Sherkk 73 for Doug Dieken or 12 for Don Cockroft
Wife has a #6.
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My Browns jerseys have Westside across the back and the number 70 for my graduating class. If I was going to wear a player jersey it would be 17 for Brian Sipe 72 for Jerry Sherkk 73 for Doug Dieken or 12 for Don Cockroft
Wife has a #6.
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I have a #2 and a counterbalancing #95. Who could they be?
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My Browns jerseys have Westside across the back and the number 70 for my graduating class. If I was going to wear a player jersey it would be 17 for Brian Sipe 72 for Jerry Sherkk 73 for Doug Dieken or 12 for Don Cockroft
Wife has a #6.
WSS
I have a #2 and a counterbalancing #95. Who could they be?
I have a #2 and a counterbalancing #95. Who could they be?
Don't know if you are a Browns fan long enough to be a Tim Couch guy?
Just kidding; Johnny.
Add as a newcomer, and Lone Star guy Miles?
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I have a #2 and a counterbalancing #95. Who could they be?
Don't know if you are a Browns fan long enough to be a Tim Couch guy?
Just kidding; Johnny.
Add as a newcomer, and Lone Star guy Miles?
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Don't know if you are a Browns fan long enough to be a Tim Couch guy?
Just kidding; Johnny.
Add as a newcomer, and Lone Star guy Miles?
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Or Myles. LOL!?
But keep an eye on Aggie #61 for 2024 draft (see the thread on Centers). He's our next great pro IMO. If healthy a top 10 pick easily for a Center needy team. Heart of a rebuilt (3 starting true freshmen) OL last year. He runs the OL and strong/athletic guy.
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That's unlikely but Jacoby has never been on a team of this caliber so I expect him to play
Not to be a buzz kill. As much as people keep talking about all of the talent on this team, neither of the 1st 2 teams Amari Cooper played for kept him around for another contract. DPJ remains untapped despite what that long hook-up for a TD vrs Cincy showed. I like his 17.56 yards a catch. Schwartz is still the same waste of time he was last year. This is supposed to be a TE friendly offense and yet Hooper was a big disappointment. Njoku got a huge contract for his improvement; but this was a 1st round pick that hasn't given this team anything close to the consistency/reliability a guy like Travis Kelce has provided even before Mahomes arrived.
So, how do the Browns do when/if all they can do is run the ball vrs opponents that are well prepared for this reality? If we have nothing to fear on the perimeter, this doesn't help whoever is playing QB.
I welcome the only Defensive Coordinator to earn a Superbowl Ring in New Orleans while understanding Revenge of the Nerds is a sequel. "Come get some!" -
Ok, it's been settled, punishment has been doled out. So how long are the people going to hold on to this? How many snarky comments about Watson do I have to read on anything Browns related that don't have anything to do with Watson? Because we all know how many perfect people there are out there with nothing to hide.
Ok, it's been settled, punishment has been doled out. So how long are the people going to hold on to this? How many snarky comments about Watson do I have to read on anything Browns related that don't have anything to do with Watson? Because we all know how many perfect people there are out there with nothing to hide.
Just because its settled it does not mean we have to like the sleazeball..
Nickers...."There are no old running QB's in the NFL "~Sam Rutigliano~ -
we know when Watson will eventually play again.
How much will he weigh by then?
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Ok, it's been settled, punishment has been doled out. So how long are the people going to hold on to this? How many snarky comments about Watson do I have to read on anything Browns related that don't have anything to do with Watson? Because we all know how many perfect people there are out there with nothing to hide.
Ok, it's been settled, punishment has been doled out. So how long are the people going to hold on to this? How many snarky comments about Watson do I have to read on anything Browns related that don't have anything to do with Watson? Because we all know how many perfect people there are out there with nothing to hide.
For sure nobody is perfect, yeah. But the amount of times he trespassed the line of what is right and what is wrong is enough to say that he should be punished.
One person I thought about when I read your post was Vick. What is the difference? He did an awful thing, but spent his time in jail and got suspended, apologized sincerely and never committed such crimes again.
As of Watson?
1. He won't spend time in jail (it is not a crime or there is not enough evidence, but that doesn't mean he did any good)
2. He made a late half ass apology that no one buys.
3. Time hasn't passed so we can't confirm he has been "reinstated" and isn't coming back to his "old ways".
I want to talk about football and I'm glad the punishment has finally been settled, but this is a fuckup not only by Watson, but also by the NFL (with the two judges shenanigans), Houston and the Browns, and we will hear from it for some time, and deservedly so.
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we know when Watson will eventually play again.
How much will he weigh by then?
How much will he weigh by then?
Hopefully not as much as Mayfield did when he looked like the pIllsbury dough boy.
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That's unlikely but Jacoby has never been on a team of this caliber so I expect him to play
Not to be a buzz kill. As much as people keep talking about all of the talent on this team, neither of the 1st 2 teams Amari Cooper played for kept him around for another contract. DPJ remains untapped despite what that long hook-up for a TD vrs Cincy showed. I like his 17.56 yards a catch. Schwartz is still the same waste of time he was last year. This is supposed to be a TE friendly offense and yet Hooper was a big disappointment. Njoku got a huge contract for his improvement; but this was a 1st round pick that hasn't given this team anything close to the consistency/reliability a guy like Travis Kelce has provided even before Mahomes arrived.
So, how do the Browns do when/if all they can do is run the ball vrs opponents that are well prepared for this reality? If we have nothing to fear on the perimeter, this doesn't help whoever is playing QB.
Not to be a buzz kill. As much as people keep talking about all of the talent on this team, neither of the 1st 2 teams Amari Cooper played for kept him around for another contract. DPJ remains untapped despite what that long hook-up for a TD vrs Cincy showed. I like his 17.56 yards a catch. Schwartz is still the same waste of time he was last year. This is supposed to be a TE friendly offense and yet Hooper was a big disappointment. Njoku got a huge contract for his improvement; but this was a 1st round pick that hasn't given this team anything close to the consistency/reliability a guy like Travis Kelce has provided even before Mahomes arrived.
So, how do the Browns do when/if all they can do is run the ball vrs opponents that are well prepared for this reality? If we have nothing to fear on the perimeter, this doesn't help whoever is playing QB.
I think when we talk about talent, the primary in mind are the things that make a team competitive...
- strength in the trenches
- running game
Save for my concerns about the IDL, the Browns have a pair of the best guards in the NFL and a functional set of tackles. That's not including Conklin coming back and being healthy (dear god, please)
We also have a great pass rush, and our running game speaks for itself.
Jacoby hasn't been part of a team as a starter with that sort of blessing since his time in New England, and even then they have more role players than dominant individual skill players. And yes, Miami's Oline was pretty spotty.
Cooper, despite being traded to the cowboys and then us, is still a pretty proven vertical commodity. DPJ is an enigma that I'm hoping catches on. And Njoku was an athlete who is finally flashing glimpses of the complete player we've been hoping he'd grow into. The last 3 years, his drop rates have all declined significantly, his blocking both inline and on the perimeter has improved as well. I believe it's not a giant leap of faith to say he can produce more when we have an offense that is QB and volume centric. Which we won't see probably until this time next year.
So there is a bit of projection on the talent available here. But not such a stretch to say it isn't a reality that can be realized.
To me, David Bell is the gear that could make this engine really go in time. He just has that pro style look to his game where, nothing he does is flashy, but he consistently wins his routes and gives his QB a friend at almost every level of the field between his footwork, height and hands.
Schwartz is a luxury. If he develops, that's great. If not, I would consider him on punt returns and possibly making him a weapon for field position. But if I can't trust you to catch, then I can't trust you to field returns cleanly.
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As to the fake act of contrition if he maintains he never did anything wrong then what is there to be rehabilitated Jimmy? This is been some of the most ridiculous dual-sided posturing we've seen in a while.
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As to the fake act of contrition if he maintains he never did anything wrong then what is there to be rehabilitated Jimmy? This is been some of the most ridiculous dual-sided posturing we've seen in a while.
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As to the fake act of contrition if he maintains he never did anything wrong then what is there to be rehabilitated Jimmy? This is been some of the most ridiculous dual-sided posturing we've seen in a while.
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It seems the haslams and berry sold their souls to the devil on the watson fiasco. They are "comfortable" with watson? really? If they feel that the disgust will go away in time...good luck with that. I don't see it. But they don't care. I read where the fans booed watson in the preseason game - I don't blame them one bit. Watson's attitude is right out of the hs/college no consequences "we want to win, so cover up his indiscretions etc" playbook.
I can see a boycott of the browns over this garbage they did. Of course, that is only my goofy opinion.
or....not.
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Mar 28, 2022The Browns traded a package that included three first round picks to the Texans for Watson, and gave him a contract worth $230 million fully guaranteed over five years. Share this article: FacebookBoycott the Browns. As fans of the Cleveland Browns we need to send a message to the front office that trading for serial rapist Deshaun Watson is not acceptable. We need to make it clear that as long as he is on the team we will not. Those of us who are capable should be ready to protest outside games, and possibly the Browns practice facility. -
It's finally over. By the first week of December, when Watson comes back, I predict this will all be forgotten because by then they'll be another NFL fiasco to be talked about.
it won't be forgotten by a lot of folks who are disgusted with all this.
it won't be forgotten by a lot of folks who are disgusted with all this.
Yes it will.
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Not to be a buzz kill. As much as people keep talking about all of the talent on this team, neither of the 1st 2 teams Amari Cooper played for kept him around for another contract. DPJ remains untapped despite what that long hook-up for a TD vrs Cincy showed. I like his 17.56 yards a catch. Schwartz is still the same waste of time he was last year. This is supposed to be a TE friendly offense and yet Hooper was a big disappointment. Njoku got a huge contract for his improvement; but this was a 1st round pick that hasn't given this team anything close to the consistency/reliability a guy like Travis Kelce has provided even before Mahomes arrived.
So, how do the Browns do when/if all they can do is run the ball vrs opponents that are well prepared for this reality? If we have nothing to fear on the perimeter, this doesn't help whoever is playing QB.
I think when we talk about talent, the primary in mind are the things that make a team competitive...
- strength in the trenches
- running game
Save for my concerns about the IDL, the Browns have a pair of the best guards in the NFL and a functional set of tackles. That's not including Conklin coming back and being healthy (dear god, please)
We also have a great pass rush, and our running game speaks for itself.
Jacoby hasn't been part of a team as a starter with that sort of blessing since his time in New England, and even then they have more role players than dominant individual skill players. And yes, Miami's Oline was pretty spotty.
Cooper, despite being traded to the cowboys and then us, is still a pretty proven vertical commodity. DPJ is an enigma that I'm hoping catches on. And Njoku was an athlete who is finally flashing glimpses of the complete player we've been hoping he'd grow into. The last 3 years, his drop rates have all declined significantly, his blocking both inline and on the perimeter has improved as well. I believe it's not a giant leap of faith to say he can produce more when we have an offense that is QB and volume centric. Which we won't see probably until this time next year.
So there is a bit of projection on the talent available here. But not such a stretch to say it isn't a reality that can be realized.
To me, David Bell is the gear that could make this engine really go in time. He just has that pro style look to his game where, nothing he does is flashy, but he consistently wins his routes and gives his QB a friend at almost every level of the field between his footwork, height and hands.
Schwartz is a luxury. If he develops, that's great. If not, I would consider him on punt returns and possibly making him a weapon for field position. But if I can't trust you to catch, then I can't trust you to field returns cleanly.
I think when we talk about talent, the primary in mind are the things that make a team competitive...
- strength in the trenches
- running game
Save for my concerns about the IDL, the Browns have a pair of the best guards in the NFL and a functional set of tackles. That's not including Conklin coming back and being healthy (dear god, please)
We also have a great pass rush, and our running game speaks for itself.
Jacoby hasn't been part of a team as a starter with that sort of blessing since his time in New England, and even then they have more role players than dominant individual skill players. And yes, Miami's Oline was pretty spotty.
Cooper, despite being traded to the cowboys and then us, is still a pretty proven vertical commodity. DPJ is an enigma that I'm hoping catches on. And Njoku was an athlete who is finally flashing glimpses of the complete player we've been hoping he'd grow into. The last 3 years, his drop rates have all declined significantly, his blocking both inline and on the perimeter has improved as well. I believe it's not a giant leap of faith to say he can produce more when we have an offense that is QB and volume centric. Which we won't see probably until this time next year.
So there is a bit of projection on the talent available here. But not such a stretch to say it isn't a reality that can be realized.
To me, David Bell is the gear that could make this engine really go in time. He just has that pro style look to his game where, nothing he does is flashy, but he consistently wins his routes and gives his QB a friend at almost every level of the field between his footwork, height and hands.
Schwartz is a luxury. If he develops, that's great. If not, I would consider him on punt returns and possibly making him a weapon for field position. But if I can't trust you to catch, then I can't trust you to field returns cleanly.
I’m interested to see how much room we give Jacoby. For instance, if we start 0-2 and his play just “meh”. Do we make a move for a guy like Jimmy G. Or just start trading away guys on short term deals prior to the deadline and essentially punting this year. Lots of parallels to the Niner offense and our offense. Maybe pressure to win now with some of the “vets” on this team
If we can’t competently gameplan against Baker and beat Flacco and the Jets at Home it is onto 2023. Enjoy the Buckeyes and have no expectations on Sunday. So I’m obviously for purging short term assets.
We have the same coaching staff now three straight years we have to and should come out swinging
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I'm expecting the Browns to play a lot better than most are. I know I'm sick and tired of Watson's baggage and the players are no different, so it should be an us vs everyone mentality.
Jacoby will manage the games just fine and surprise a lot of people. I'm expecting similar results from a healthy Baker, just with less peaks and less valleys.
Kevin needs to call better games this season both in terms of plays and game day Head Coach decisions... time to pull up your big boy panties there Mr. Dreamy.
I'm expecting the Browns to be in every game deep into the 4th, and that's good enough for me.
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I don’t believe the decision to bring DW to Cleveland falls squarely on the shoulders of AB. I think this whole thing reeks of Jimmah sticking his nose into the football decisions once again.
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I don’t believe the decision to bring DW to Cleveland falls squarely on the shoulders of AB. I think this whole thing reeks of Jimmah sticking his nose into the football decisions once again.
I don’t believe the decision to bring DW to Cleveland falls squarely on the shoulders of AB. I think this whole thing reeks of Jimmah sticking his nose into the football decisions once again.
Well they didn’t care for Baker so if the Watson option was out there you think AB and Stefanski weren’t on board?
When you get past the how someone should act off the field- Watson has an elite skill set.Meanwhile, we’ve learned that Wilson gave us the middle finger.
So what is an organization to do at the most important spot when you have a window of opportunity closing?
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