Finally....done with the horrble DW deal!!!!
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Who can forget ole slow footed, overeating fat Baker and his "my commercials make me more money than my Browns do so fuck you" Soph lose the job season? Me, that's who.? Because I don't have selected a forget all he's done wrong stormy memory like some BB members seem to have.
Who can forget ole slow footed, overeating fat Baker and his "my commercials make me more money than my Browns do so fuck you" Soph lose the job season? Me, that's who.? Because I don't have selected a forget all he's done wrong stormy memory like some BB members seem to have.
Here's the thing, when a QB is drafted 1st overall - there's an expectation that was higher than he achieved. Pittsburgh drafted Kenny Pickett 22nd overall; and that fanbase wasn't exactly patient with him.
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Who can forget ole slow footed, overeating fat Baker and his "my commercials make me more money than my Browns do so fuck you" Soph lose the job season? Me, that's who.? Because I don't have selected a forget all he's done wrong stormy memory like some BB members seem to have.
Who can forget ole slow footed, overeating fat Baker and his "my commercials make me more money than my Browns do so fuck you" Soph lose the job season? Me, that's who.? Because I don't have selected a forget all he's done wrong stormy memory like some BB members seem to have.
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I mean, what #1 overall pick in NFL history couldn't outrun a cop?
And could you imagine what the Poliboard boys who all love their Great White Dope Baker would have said if Lamar Jackson had been found to try and run from a cop when getting arrested? Oh my goodness, I believe they would have branded him a thug. We all know what "thug" is MAGA for, don't we? ?
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@calfoxwc said:
2 days agoCleveland Browns. 2022 first-round pick: Deshaun Watson (15 th overall pick was traded). Watson was suspended by the NFL for the first 11 games for violations of the league personal conduct policy. In six games started, Watson was 3-3, threw 7 touchdowns and 5 interceptions, and had aWhat is the hidden cost of posting links that need you to be a subscriber to read, Comrade Cal?
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What has to be the most frustrating thing about the Watson trade is that if the Browns had actually had a QB land in their lap like a Joe Burrow or CJ Stroud, this probable swing and a miss blockbuster trade would have never had to be made.
Instead, the year we had the #1 overall pick and went shopping for a QB, we ended up with Baker Reagan Mayfield. No team serious about having Super Bowl aspirations is keeping him as their QB long-term.
Such a pity. That probably set us back ten years.
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2 days agoCleveland Browns. 2022 first-round pick: Deshaun Watson (15 th overall pick was traded). Watson was suspended by the NFL for the first 11 games for violations of the league personal conduct policy. In six games started, Watson was 3-3, threw 7 touchdowns and 5 interceptions, and had a
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Oct 23, 2023The answer to decades of quarterback woes in Cleveland, Watson has run out of excuses for being awful. Since the trade he's been among the worst quarterbacks in the NFL. 10 games, 165-for-277 ...
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Now we're re-posting the same links Comrade Cal?
Bold move, Cotton.
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Now we're re-posting the same links Comrade Cal?
Bold move, Cotton.
Now we're re-posting the same links Comrade Cal?
Bold move, Cotton.
I've only seen this post from him about 8 times.
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What has to be the most frustrating thing about the Watson trade is that if the Browns had actually had a QB land in their lap like a Joe Burrow or CJ Stroud, this probable swing and a miss blockbuster trade would have never had to be made.
Instead, the year we had the #1 overall pick and went shopping for a QB, we ended up with Baker Reagan Mayfield. No team serious about having Super Bowl aspirations is keeping him as their QB long-term.
Such a pity. That probably set us back ten years.
Such a pity. That probably set us back ten years.
I think there's a litany of QB's that set us back a decade. Hell, we should probably be back in the 18th century by now.
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I don't know, Watson was part of the trade so in my mind we gave up 2 first round picks.
The Browns will receive Watson and a 2024 sixth-round draft choice (which was originally a fifth-round pick), while the Texans will receive a 2022 first-round pick (No. 13 overall), 2023 and 2024 first-round picks, a 2022 fourth-round choice (No. 107), a third-round pick in 2023 and a fourth-round pick in 2024.
The Browns will receive Watson and a 2024 sixth-round draft choice (which was originally a fifth-round pick), while the Texans will receive a 2022 first-round pick (No. 13 overall), 2023 and 2024 first-round picks, a 2022 fourth-round choice (No. 107), a third-round pick in 2023 and a fourth-round pick in 2024.
I know what the trade values were. My point is my valuation is the first year of picks don't count as extra. We received Watson in return. The 2nd and 3rd year are the extra picks. I think Berry has done a good job of covering the 3rd and 4th rounders so I don't think we lost much there.
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I don't know, Watson was part of the trade so in my mind we gave up 2 first round picks.
The Browns will receive Watson and a 2024 sixth-round draft choice (which was originally a fifth-round pick), while the Texans will receive a 2022 first-round pick (No. 13 overall), 2023 and 2024 first-round picks, a 2022 fourth-round choice (No. 107), a third-round pick in 2023 and a fourth-round pick in 2024.
The Browns will receive Watson and a 2024 sixth-round draft choice (which was originally a fifth-round pick), while the Texans will receive a 2022 first-round pick (No. 13 overall), 2023 and 2024 first-round picks, a 2022 fourth-round choice (No. 107), a third-round pick in 2023 and a fourth-round pick in 2024.
Ah, so that's where our 4th rounder went this year. Well at least it was later 4th round since we had a winning season.
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The Browns will receive Watson and a 2024 sixth-round draft choice (which was originally a fifth-round pick), while the Texans will receive a 2022 first-round pick (No. 13 overall), 2023 and 2024 first-round picks, a 2022 fourth-round choice (No. 107), a third-round pick in 2023 and a fourth-round pick in 2024.
Ah, so that's where our 4th rounder went this year. Well at least it was later 4th round since we had a winning season.
Ah, so that's where our 4th rounder went this year. Well at least it was later 4th round since we had a winning season.
Do you think Houston would trade CJ Stroud for Cheesecakes Mayfield? ?
Neither do I...
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The Browns will receive Watson and a 2024 sixth-round draft choice (which was originally a fifth-round pick), while the Texans will receive a 2022 first-round pick (No. 13 overall), 2023 and 2024 first-round picks, a 2022 fourth-round choice (No. 107), a third-round pick in 2023 and a fourth-round pick in 2024.
I know what the trade values were. My point is my valuation is the first year of picks don't count as extra. We received Watson in return. The 2nd and 3rd year are the extra picks. I think Berry has done a good job of covering the 3rd and 4th rounders so I don't think we lost much there.
My point is my valuation is the first year of picks don't count as extra. We received Watson in return.
So, we traded a 1st & a 4th round pick for Watson. Then we threw in some extra picks and they threw in a pick. Certainly sounds better than three 1st rounders.
Anywho, we're paid in full (outside of his salaries) on the investment. Now, we continue to wait for a return on the investment. And we can get back in the business of drafting on Thursday nights. Perhaps even drafting a QB in round 1. I mean, we can't see the future. There's a non zero chance that Watson never returns to form. After all, he did screw up his throwing shoulder.
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My point is my valuation is the first year of picks don't count as extra. We received Watson in return.
So, we traded a 1st & a 4th round pick for Watson. Then we threw in some extra picks and they threw in a pick. Certainly sounds better than three 1st rounders.
Anywho, we're paid in full (outside of his salaries) on the investment. Now, we continue to wait for a return on the investment. And we can get back in the business of drafting on Thursday nights. Perhaps even drafting a QB in round 1. I mean, we can't see the future. There's a non zero chance that Watson never returns to form. After all, he did screw up his throwing shoulder.
So, we traded a 1st & a 4th round pick for Watson. Then we threw in some extra picks and they threw in a pick. Certainly sounds better than three 1st rounders.
Anywho, we're paid in full (outside of his salaries) on the investment. Now, we continue to wait for a return on the investment. And we can get back in the business of drafting on Thursday nights. Perhaps even drafting a QB in round 1. I mean, we can't see the future. There's a non zero chance that Watson never returns to form. After all, he did screw up his throwing shoulder.
I will not argue against the after the fact issues, they are after the fact.
That;s a different topic of discussion.
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So, we traded a 1st & a 4th round pick for Watson. Then we threw in some extra picks and they threw in a pick. Certainly sounds better than three 1st rounders.
Anywho, we're paid in full (outside of his salaries) on the investment. Now, we continue to wait for a return on the investment. And we can get back in the business of drafting on Thursday nights. Perhaps even drafting a QB in round 1. I mean, we can't see the future. There's a non zero chance that Watson never returns to form. After all, he did screw up his throwing shoulder.
I will not argue against the after the fact issues, they are after the fact.
That;s a different topic of discussion.
That;s a different topic of discussion.
Yes.
This trade was modelled after the Rams Mathew Stafford trade. You're built to win now, but you don't have faith in your QB. There's no way to draft one, so trade for a proven talent. And like everything else, it's a great call if it works.
Last year at this time we had people predicting that Stef would be fired at the end of the season if Watson did not perform well. But somehow, with defense and smart coaching he won games while alternating two pathetic QB's. And then he altered his offense to accommodate Joe Flacco's game. Great work by Stef. But Trigger Finger Haslem still owns the team so It's possible that Stef only kicked the can down the road. Two of our top superstars (Watson & Chubb) are coming off of injuries & surgeries. We've brought in RB's to cover for Chubb...but there's only so much you can do to cover for your championship caliber QB. Without your championship QB, you're not a championship contender.
This will be the 3rd season for Watson. Third time is the charm, right? Super Bowl Browns.....Yeah!
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That;s a different topic of discussion.
Yes.
This trade was modelled after the Rams Mathew Stafford trade. You're built to win now, but you don't have faith in your QB. There's no way to draft one, so trade for a proven talent. And like everything else, it's a great call if it works.
Last year at this time we had people predicting that Stef would be fired at the end of the season if Watson did not perform well. But somehow, with defense and smart coaching he won games while alternating two pathetic QB's. And then he altered his offense to accommodate Joe Flacco's game. Great work by Stef. But Trigger Finger Haslem still owns the team so It's possible that Stef only kicked the can down the road. Two of our top superstars (Watson & Chubb) are coming off of injuries & surgeries. We've brought in RB's to cover for Chubb...but there's only so much you can do to cover for your championship caliber QB. Without your championship QB, you're not a championship contender.
This will be the 3rd season for Watson. Third time is the charm, right? Super Bowl Browns.....Yeah!
This will be the 3rd season for Watson. Third time is the charm, right? Super Bowl Browns.....Yeah!
I'm not going to be charmed until I see the injury does not affect his passing. I'm not yet convinced any more than when Fat Baker was trying to remain as the starter with his injury. Will the Browns make the same mistake twice out of desperation? They should have found a way to retain Flacco.
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This will be the 3rd season for Watson. Third time is the charm, right? Super Bowl Browns.....Yeah!
I'm not going to be charmed until I see the injury does not affect his passing. I'm not yet convinced any more than when Fat Baker was trying to remain as the starter with his injury. Will the Browns make the same mistake twice out of desperation? They should have found a way to retain Flacco.
They should have found a way to retain Flacco.
Ya know, I just don't think that they entertained that idea. Flacco is a very old school QB. As much as I (perhaps you, and others) would like/love that, it doesn't match the current organizational mindset. They want backup QB's to have traits to more match Watson and the rpo style.
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They should have found a way to retain Flacco.
Ya know, I just don't think that they entertained that idea. Flacco is a very old school QB. As much as I (perhaps you, and others) would like/love that, it doesn't match the current organizational mindset. They want backup QB's to have traits to more match Watson and the rpo style.
Ya know, I just don't think that they entertained that idea. Flacco is a very old school QB. As much as I (perhaps you, and others) would like/love that, it doesn't match the current organizational mindset. They want backup QB's to have traits to more match Watson and the rpo style.
Ironically enough, Flacco IMO fits Stefanski better than RPO QBs do.
I've already heard the "just wait until you see this new offense" noise again... I remember hearing the same thing prior to and during training camp last year, but during the season it just seems like Stefanski and RPO is a round peg/square hole situation.
It's one of the reasons I have serious doubts we'll ever see the 2018-2020 Watson here.
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Ya know, I just don't think that they entertained that idea. Flacco is a very old school QB. As much as I (perhaps you, and others) would like/love that, it doesn't match the current organizational mindset. They want backup QB's to have traits to more match Watson and the rpo style.
Ironically enough, Flacco IMO fits Stefanski better than RPO QBs do.
I've already heard the "just wait until you see this new offense" noise again... I remember hearing the same thing prior to and during training camp last year, but during the season it just seems like Stefanski and RPO is a round peg/square hole situation.
It's one of the reasons I have serious doubts we'll ever see the 2018-2020 Watson here.
Ironically enough, Flacco IMO fits Stefanski better than RPO QBs do.
Maybe you're right. But I'm not sure it matters....because I don't think that Haslem & DePo care what fits Stef better. I think those two have their vision and Berry & Stef have to march in that direction. - Plus, Flacco is too old to hitch a wagon to.
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Ya know, I just don't think that they entertained that idea. Flacco is a very old school QB. As much as I (perhaps you, and others) would like/love that, it doesn't match the current organizational mindset. They want backup QB's to have traits to more match Watson and the rpo style.
Ironically enough, Flacco IMO fits Stefanski better than RPO QBs do.
I've already heard the "just wait until you see this new offense" noise again... I remember hearing the same thing prior to and during training camp last year, but during the season it just seems like Stefanski and RPO is a round peg/square hole situation.
It's one of the reasons I have serious doubts we'll ever see the 2018-2020 Watson here.
Ironically enough, Flacco IMO fits Stefanski better than RPO QBs do.
I've already heard the "just wait until you see this new offense" noise again... I remember hearing the same thing prior to and during training camp last year, but during the season it just seems like Stefanski and RPO is a round peg/square hole situation.
It's one of the reasons I have serious doubts we'll ever see the 2018-2020 Watson here.
Can we let Dee Haslam pick the QB next time?
I welcome the only Defensive Coordinator to earn a Superbowl Ring in New Orleans while understanding Revenge of the Nerds is a sequel. "Come get some!"
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