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Art Modell up for HOF

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  • @dutch-oven said:

    For my money, the greatest line in American cinema history 

    You may run like Mays, but you like shit. That’s my favorite from that movie

    @browns149 said:

    You may run like Mays, but you like shit. That’s my favorite from that movie

    This place got coney dogs? 

  • Take way the emotion and Art deserves to be in the HOF.  He did more for the league than most any other owner.

    It's time to forgive and forget. Leave the petty emotions aside. He belongs in the HOF.

  • Take way the emotion and Art deserves to be in the HOF.  He did more for the league than most any other owner.

    It's time to forgive and forget. Leave the petty emotions aside. He belongs in the HOF.

    @ballpeen said:

    Take way the emotion and Art deserves to be in the HOF.  He did more for the league than most any other owner.

    It's time to forgive and forget. Leave the petty emotions aside. He belongs in the HOF.

    He took arguably the best NFL franchise and ran it into mediocrity, then damn near went bankrupt. A NFL owner went broke. That’s as hilarious as someone bankrupting a casino. 

  • @fy56 said:

    It wasn’t just the move to Baltimore, it was what resulted after the move that makes fans pissed at Art.

    His decision turned a proud and storied franchise into pro sports biggest laughing stock. The only “story” anyone has known is the one since 1999. That’s 26 years of mostly garbage .

    He shoulda took the name and colors . As perennial winners with 2 Super Bowl titles, the Baltimore Browns  would have at least continued to preserve the Browns tradition. 

    I agree. We should’ve got an entire new team. Name, colors, and everything 

    @browns149 said:

    I agree. We should’ve got an entire new team. Name, colors, and everything 

    I hear you; BUT Cleveland won 7 of their 8 Pro Football Championships in those colors BEFORE Modell.  3 of those Championships were in the NFL (when they made it to the NFL Championship Game in all of their 1st 6 seasons in it).  As you know, a lot of family traditions of following this franchise launched back then and continued all the way to 2-4 generations later today. That's what sticks with me - the memories of driving 4 hours to games with my dad and brother. On top of that, my dad hooked up a huge antenna and got Browns games from all over the NE and up as far as Ottawa (Canada) before satellite tv.   FWIW, the Browns also had the perfect colors for Fall.  I'm only speaking for me; but if they decided to choose purple and name the team after a ratbird - it would have been tougher to rally around. I prolly would have ended up accepting it though.

    The Cleveland Rams also won an NFL Championship in 1945; but that was their last year as a Pro Football Team in Cleveland.  That was timed well with the Browns joining the AAFC from 1946-1949. 

    We just gotta get better ownership in Cleveland so the Browns aren't hiring/drafting guys just to fire/cut them all 3 years later.  When I see people getting pumped up to fire or cut someone - the same fellers are still doing the hiring with the same crack pipe criteria. 

  • Take way the emotion and Art deserves to be in the HOF.  He did more for the league than most any other owner.

    It's time to forgive and forget. Leave the petty emotions aside. He belongs in the HOF.

    @ballpeen said:

    Take way the emotion and Art deserves to be in the HOF.  He did more for the league than most any other owner.

    It's time to forgive and forget. Leave the petty emotions aside. He belongs in the HOF.

    I see where you are going with that.... take away his moving the team. firing Paul Brown, trading Paul Warfield, dumping Bernie Kosar, and being a complete arrogant, self-centered ass for most of his time in the nfl, firing coaches, losing seasons, .......well, yeah, he wasn't a ...bad owner.

    But he doesn't belong in the HOF. 

  • @ballpeen said:

    Take way the emotion and Art deserves to be in the HOF.  He did more for the league than most any other owner.

    It's time to forgive and forget. Leave the petty emotions aside. He belongs in the HOF.

    I see where you are going with that.... take away his moving the team. firing Paul Brown, trading Paul Warfield, dumping Bernie Kosar, and being a complete arrogant, self-centered ass for most of his time in the nfl, firing coaches, losing seasons, .......well, yeah, he wasn't a ...bad owner.

    But he doesn't belong in the HOF. 

    @calfoxwc said:

    I see where you are going with that.... take away his moving the team. firing Paul Brown, trading Paul Warfield, dumping Bernie Kosar, and being a complete arrogant, self-centered ass for most of his time in the nfl, firing coaches, losing seasons, .......well, yeah, he wasn't a ...bad owner.

    But he doesn't belong in the HOF. 

    FIFY?

  • People care about the hall of fame?

    I got free passes for running a marathon in Canton and was excited to take the family inside but it was a snooze fest, lasted maybe 20 minutes before we 'ran' out of there.

  • Along with Robert Kraft and others.

    I, personally, don’t think Modell should be anywhere near the HOF. Not only did he fire Paul Brown and Bill Belichick, HE MOVED THE BROWNS. End of story

    https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/41832320/robert-kraft-25-contributors-hof-consideration

    @browns149 said:

    Along with Robert Kraft and others.

    I, personally, don’t think Modell should be anywhere near the HOF. Not only did he fire Paul Brown and Bill Belichick, HE MOVED THE BROWNS. End of story

    https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/41832320/robert-kraft-25-contributors-hof-consideration

    Browns were a better team in the Art Modell years though. This browns...well...not so much. 

  • Take way the emotion and Art deserves to be in the HOF.  He did more for the league than most any other owner.

    It's time to forgive and forget. Leave the petty emotions aside. He belongs in the HOF.

    @ballpeen said:

    Take way the emotion and Art deserves to be in the HOF.  He did more for the league than most any other owner.

    It's time to forgive and forget. Leave the petty emotions aside. He belongs in the HOF.

    With all due respect, hell no.

    Fired Paul Brown, fired Bill Belichick, two of coaching 's all time greats. Right there, that's enough to disqualify him.

    He was offered part of the Gateway Project, refused it. Declared a " moratorium" on the stadium issue, working through the backdoor to get out of town- total dishonesty there.

    He & Georgia Frontierre voted to block expansion into Baltimore & St. Louis. Hmm, wonder why. Hence, the NFL puts teams in Carolina & Jacksonville. Those two owners pounced on the spurned expansion cities as soon as they could.

    Those are "emotionless" facts. 

  • JaxJ Jax

    People care about the hall of fame?

    I got free passes for running a marathon in Canton and was excited to take the family inside but it was a snooze fest, lasted maybe 20 minutes before we 'ran' out of there.

    @jax said:

    People care about the hall of fame?

    I got free passes for running a marathon in Canton and was excited to take the family inside but it was a snooze fest, lasted maybe 20 minutes before we 'ran' out of there.

    I don’t, particularly, care about the building. I have been there numerous times and it’s ok but a little boring. Kind of like the Rock Hall

    I do care if that scumbag gets in though. He doesn’t deserve it at all. For all the reasons mentioned in this post. The biggest reason being. HE MOVED THE BROWNS. 

  • He definitely doesn't deserve to be honored, I was just making a point the HOF is stupid.

    Next year most people won't even remember if he was ever inducted anyways.(except some Browns fans)

  • JaxJ Jax

    He definitely doesn't deserve to be honored, I was just making a point the HOF is stupid.

    Next year most people won't even remember if he was ever inducted anyways.(except some Browns fans)

    @jax said:

    He definitely doesn't deserve to be honored, I was just making a point the HOF is stupid.

    Next year most people won't even remember if he was ever inducted anyways.(except some Browns fans)

    Speaking of HOFs, watching Jim Brown and Leroy Kelly pushing Gene Hickerson's wheel chair up to the stage in Canton a few years into Alzheimer's Disease was a disgrace.  The poor guy wasn't even capable of celebrating something his mind couldn't comprehend.  He probably even had to be reminded who Jim Brown and Leroy Kelly were throughout that ceremony.  Here's the thing, this 6 Time Pro Bowl performer played his last down in 1973. They didn't induct him until 34 years later in 2007?  That's an honor many players dream about; and I think it stinks he was denied the ability to celebrate it when he had the mind to do so.  

  • JaxJ Jax

    He definitely doesn't deserve to be honored, I was just making a point the HOF is stupid.

    Next year most people won't even remember if he was ever inducted anyways.(except some Browns fans)

    @jax said:

    He definitely doesn't deserve to be honored, I was just making a point the HOF is stupid.

    Next year most people won't even remember if he was ever inducted anyways.(except some Browns fans)

    You guys allow your emotions to rule your minds.  None of that shit diminishes the things he did for the league and helped make it what it is today.

    "he didn't win anything"    bla bla bla

    Joe Thomas didn't win anything either if we go by your thinking..

  • "all the negativity in this town Sucks"  Rick Pitino

    if anyone cares- there is a part in the 30/30 Believeland episode

    where if you listen carefully, Modells son speaks to his fathers side of the story, a betrayal of the city in light of the 

    Indians new stadium.  You got to listen to David Modell try and do the impossible here- explain his dads reasons... 

    And for me, im done with the bitter hate that doesnt seem to end over  this team when it loses. 

    i dont like it, but not gonna hold a grudge over something I cant control anyways.

  • @jax said:

    He definitely doesn't deserve to be honored, I was just making a point the HOF is stupid.

    Next year most people won't even remember if he was ever inducted anyways.(except some Browns fans)

    You guys allow your emotions to rule your minds.  None of that shit diminishes the things he did for the league and helped make it what it is today.

    "he didn't win anything"    bla bla bla

    Joe Thomas didn't win anything either if we go by your thinking..

    @ballpeen said:

    You guys allow your emotions to rule your minds.  None of that shit diminishes the things he did for the league and helped make it what it is today.

    "he didn't win anything"    bla bla bla

    Joe Thomas didn't win anything either if we go by your thinking..

    I appreciate your position, and coming from you it has some levity for me. What are the actual pros and cons of Art Modell?

    ”The Move” was the most impressionable of my lifetime. I understand his push for MNF was a thing. What else?

  • @ballpeen said:

    You guys allow your emotions to rule your minds.  None of that shit diminishes the things he did for the league and helped make it what it is today.

    "he didn't win anything"    bla bla bla

    Joe Thomas didn't win anything either if we go by your thinking..

    I appreciate your position, and coming from you it has some levity for me. What are the actual pros and cons of Art Modell?

    ”The Move” was the most impressionable of my lifetime. I understand his push for MNF was a thing. What else?

    @ibleedbrown said:

    I appreciate your position, and coming from you it has some levity for me. What are the actual pros and cons of Art Modell?

    ”The Move” was the most impressionable of my lifetime. I understand his push for MNF was a thing. What else?

    He didn't have Moscow whores pee on him??

  • @ibleedbrown said:

    I appreciate your position, and coming from you it has some levity for me. What are the actual pros and cons of Art Modell?

    ”The Move” was the most impressionable of my lifetime. I understand his push for MNF was a thing. What else?

    He didn't have Moscow whores pee on him??

    @texasag1969 said:

    He didn't have Moscow whores pee on him??

    That was an owner of a USFL team, silly goose. 

  • @jax said:

    He definitely doesn't deserve to be honored, I was just making a point the HOF is stupid.

    Next year most people won't even remember if he was ever inducted anyways.(except some Browns fans)

    You guys allow your emotions to rule your minds.  None of that shit diminishes the things he did for the league and helped make it what it is today.

    "he didn't win anything"    bla bla bla

    Joe Thomas didn't win anything either if we go by your thinking..

    @ballpeen said:

    You guys allow your emotions to rule your minds.  None of that shit diminishes the things he did for the league and helped make it what it is today.

    "he didn't win anything"    bla bla bla

    Joe Thomas didn't win anything either if we go by your thinking..

    Please elaborate on all the wonderful things he did for the NFL to make it what it is today, but do not mention Monday Night Football.

  • @ibleedbrown said:

    I appreciate your position, and coming from you it has some levity for me. What are the actual pros and cons of Art Modell?

    ”The Move” was the most impressionable of my lifetime. I understand his push for MNF was a thing. What else?

    He didn't have Moscow whores pee on him??

    @texasag1969 said:

    He didn't have Moscow whores pee on him??

    Not everybody gets the chance at that. No one’s ever asked me to have Moscow whores pee on me. I’m not sure l’d be interested in that, but it would be nice to have the offer. 

  • @texasag1969 said:

    He didn't have Moscow whores pee on him??

    Not everybody gets the chance at that. No one’s ever asked me to have Moscow whores pee on me. I’m not sure l’d be interested in that, but it would be nice to have the offer. 

    @ibleedbrown said:

    Not everybody gets the chance at that. No one’s ever asked me to have Moscow whores pee on me. I’m not sure l’d be interested in that, but it would be nice to have the offer. 

    All ya gotta do is swear your allegiance to Putin.?