Currently our 2025 first round pick is....
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Agreed. Generation talent means once in a generation. You rarely have those in the draft.
Cam Ward is very good and could become great if the Browns organization was top notch, presently it is too disorganized to nurture talent. Lamarr Jackson wasn't considered a great QB in his draft but look at where he is now with a stable organization and good coaching.
Cam Ward is very good and could become great if the Browns organization was top notch, presently it is too disorganized to nurture talent. Lamarr Jackson wasn't considered a great QB in his draft but look at where he is now with a stable organization and good coaching.
Lamar had an elite NFL tool coming into the NFL run and escapability that he relied on to this day until he developed years later as a passer.
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Cam Ward is very good and could become great if the Browns organization was top notch, presently it is too disorganized to nurture talent. Lamarr Jackson wasn't considered a great QB in his draft but look at where he is now with a stable organization and good coaching.
Lamar had an elite NFL tool coming into the NFL run and escapability that he relied on to this day until he developed years later as a passer.
Lamar had an elite NFL tool coming into the NFL run and escapability that he relied on to this day until he developed years later as a passer.
Believe it or not, when he won the Heisman at Louisville - most of his highlight reels weren't for his scrambling like the NFL likes to show - they were more about his big plays in the passing game. People forget that about him.
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Cam Ward is very good and could become great if the Browns organization was top notch, presently it is too disorganized to nurture talent. Lamarr Jackson wasn't considered a great QB in his draft but look at where he is now with a stable organization and good coaching.
Lamar had an elite NFL tool coming into the NFL run and escapability that he relied on to this day until he developed years later as a passer.
Lamar had an elite NFL tool coming into the NFL run and escapability that he relied on to this day until he developed years later as a passer.
Wasn't valued by the draft "experts" though. Only Baltimore did their proper homework and selected him 32 in the draft.
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Lamar had an elite NFL tool coming into the NFL run and escapability that he relied on to this day until he developed years later as a passer.
Wasn't valued by the draft "experts" though. Only Baltimore did their proper homework and selected him 32 in the draft.
Wasn't valued by the draft "experts" though. Only Baltimore did their proper homework and selected him 32 in the draft.
some of the pundits thought he should switch over to wr
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some of the pundits thought he should switch over to wr
There was a Louisville Cardinal fan who used to be on here, and in the off-season of Darnold vs Baker vs Allen vs Rosen this guy was the only person pimping Lamar. I don't recall anyone else on here even remotely giving Jackson a second look.
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Trade back and build up draft capital
If there's a market for the QB still on the board at #2 (assuming it is Ward) yes, yes and yes.
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some of the pundits thought he should switch over to wr
There was a Louisville Cardinal fan who used to be on here, and in the off-season of Darnold vs Baker vs Allen vs Rosen this guy was the only person pimping Lamar. I don't recall anyone else on here even remotely giving Jackson a second look.
There was a Louisville Cardinal fan who used to be on here, and in the off-season of Darnold vs Baker vs Allen vs Rosen this guy was the only person pimping Lamar. I don't recall anyone else on here even remotely giving Jackson a second look.
I remember him, he also wanted us to pick up Greg Roman and run an option heavy offense.
Obviously it's had great NFL success regular season. Until you realize that Lamar has one playoff win, and several *real* bad exits including first round bounces his first two years.
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There was a Louisville Cardinal fan who used to be on here, and in the off-season of Darnold vs Baker vs Allen vs Rosen this guy was the only person pimping Lamar. I don't recall anyone else on here even remotely giving Jackson a second look.
I remember him, he also wanted us to pick up Greg Roman and run an option heavy offense.
Obviously it's had great NFL success regular season. Until you realize that Lamar has one playoff win, and several *real* bad exits including first round bounces his first two years.
I remember him, he also wanted us to pick up Greg Roman and run an option heavy offense.
Obviously it's had great NFL success regular season. Until you realize that Lamar has one playoff win, and several *real* bad exits including first round bounces his first two years.
He's Exhibit 1 for what I've said for years:
At the end of the day, for a QB to have the ultimate success, he has to learn how to win from the pocket. To be able to stand back there, make his reads and go through his progressions.
Lamar Jackson has been a phenomenal regular season QB.
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some of the pundits thought he should switch over to wr
There was a Louisville Cardinal fan who used to be on here, and in the off-season of Darnold vs Baker vs Allen vs Rosen this guy was the only person pimping Lamar. I don't recall anyone else on here even remotely giving Jackson a second look.
There was a Louisville Cardinal fan who used to be on here, and in the off-season of Darnold vs Baker vs Allen vs Rosen this guy was the only person pimping Lamar. I don't recall anyone else on here even remotely giving Jackson a second look.
I remember him, he also wanted us to pick up Greg Roman and run an option heavy offense.
Obviously it's had great NFL success regular season. Until you realize that Lamar has one playoff win, and several *real* bad exits including first round bounces his first two years.
Depending on matchups, might bet against BLT round 1.
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There was a Louisville Cardinal fan who used to be on here, and in the off-season of Darnold vs Baker vs Allen vs Rosen this guy was the only person pimping Lamar. I don't recall anyone else on here even remotely giving Jackson a second look.
I remember him, he also wanted us to pick up Greg Roman and run an option heavy offense.
Obviously it's had great NFL success regular season. Until you realize that Lamar has one playoff win, and several *real* bad exits including first round bounces his first two years.
Depending on matchups, might bet against BLT round 1.
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I'll take Lamar, his 1 playoff win, and several real bad exits over whatever this product we're watching is.
I'm on board with giving up the pick and waiting until we draft again at #1 in 2 years for the perfect QB - Arch Manning.
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There was a Louisville Cardinal fan who used to be on here, and in the off-season of Darnold vs Baker vs Allen vs Rosen this guy was the only person pimping Lamar. I don't recall anyone else on here even remotely giving Jackson a second look.
I remember him, he also wanted us to pick up Greg Roman and run an option heavy offense.
Obviously it's had great NFL success regular season. Until you realize that Lamar has one playoff win, and several *real* bad exits including first round bounces his first two years.
Depending on matchups, might bet against BLT round 1.
I remember him, he also wanted us to pick up Greg Roman and run an option heavy offense.
Obviously it's had great NFL success regular season. Until you realize that Lamar has one playoff win, and several *real* bad exits including first round bounces his first two years.
Depending on matchups, might bet against BLT round 1.
You can build a winning organization with that though, watch Hard Knocks to see the how far behind we are in the AFC North in that regard. You need several winning seasons in a row to compete for a SB not a flukey season here and there which is what we've done the last few years.
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I'll take Lamar, his 1 playoff win, and several real bad exits over whatever this product we're watching is.
I'm on board with giving up the pick and waiting until we draft again at #1 in 2 years for the perfect QB - Arch Manning.
I'll take Lamar, his 1 playoff win, and several real bad exits over whatever this product we're watching is.
I'm on board with giving up the pick and waiting until we draft again at #1 in 2 years for the perfect QB - Arch Manning.
He could very well declare after next season - so for the 2026 Draft. Next season will be his third college season.
And you aren't the first person I've heard/read talk about tanking for Arch Manning, but he's had all of 95 college passes so far. Great genes, though.
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So, I'm reading that people actually want us to suck for a year or two more. Because the QB grass will be greener in a year or two. That's nice. In the meantime, can you give me the winning lottery numbers?
What makes anyone think that we will be the only team in contention to draft a QB next year...or the year after?
4 more moths before we find out what we do.....
BEING A BROWNS FAN IS A TEST TO SEE HOW MUCH YOU CAN TAKE -
So, I'm reading that people actually want us to suck for a year or two more. Because the QB grass will be greener in a year or two. That's nice. In the meantime, can you give me the winning lottery numbers?
What makes anyone think that we will be the only team in contention to draft a QB next year...or the year after?
4 more moths before we find out what we do.....
So, I'm reading that people actually want us to suck for a year or two more. Because the QB grass will be greener in a year or two. That's nice. In the meantime, can you give me the winning lottery numbers?
What makes anyone think that we will be the only team in contention to draft a QB next year...or the year after?
4 more moths before we find out what we do.....
This year's QB class is not good. This isn't news.
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So, I'm reading that people actually want us to suck for a year or two more. Because the QB grass will be greener in a year or two. That's nice. In the meantime, can you give me the winning lottery numbers?
What makes anyone think that we will be the only team in contention to draft a QB next year...or the year after?
4 more moths before we find out what we do.....
So, I'm reading that people actually want us to suck for a year or two more. Because the QB grass will be greener in a year or two. That's nice. In the meantime, can you give me the winning lottery numbers?
What makes anyone think that we will be the only team in contention to draft a QB next year...or the year after?
4 more moths before we find out what we do.....
It's the Browns. I'm sure they'll draft a stud LT, shore up the offensive line, get an amazing kicker, and a stud punt/kick returner. We can still watch putrid football but we'll be able to brag to all our friends about how we have the best O line in the league.
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So, I'm reading that people actually want us to suck for a year or two more. Because the QB grass will be greener in a year or two. That's nice. In the meantime, can you give me the winning lottery numbers?
What makes anyone think that we will be the only team in contention to draft a QB next year...or the year after?
4 more moths before we find out what we do.....
This year's QB class is not good. This isn't news.
This year's QB class is not good. This isn't news.
How was last year's QB class ranked?
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So, I'm reading that people actually want us to suck for a year or two more. Because the QB grass will be greener in a year or two. That's nice. In the meantime, can you give me the winning lottery numbers?
What makes anyone think that we will be the only team in contention to draft a QB next year...or the year after?
4 more moths before we find out what we do.....
It's the Browns. I'm sure they'll draft a stud LT, shore up the offensive line, get an amazing kicker, and a stud punt/kick returner. We can still watch putrid football but we'll be able to brag to all our friends about how we have the best O line in the league.
It's the Browns. I'm sure they'll draft a stud LT, shore up the offensive line, get an amazing kicker, and a stud punt/kick returner. We can still watch putrid football but we'll be able to brag to all our friends about how we have the best O line in the league.
What we should do is reach for a QB at #2 overall, watch him get his brains beat in, develop horrible habits, then move off him in a few years and have to go and get ANOTHER QB.
That would be tits.
But as long as YOU are entertained.
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This year's QB class is not good. This isn't news.
How was last year's QB class ranked?
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