The Official Preseason Browns at Panthers Game Thread
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There were certainly a lot of positives, stuff to build on. The D was swarming.
The biggest negative, something this franchise can't seem to shake, were the pre-snap penalties.
I'm just happy it's (close) to football season.
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There were certainly a lot of positives, stuff to build on. The D was swarming.
The biggest negative, something this franchise can't seem to shake, were the pre-snap penalties.
I'm just happy it's (close) to football season.
There were certainly a lot of positives, stuff to build on. The D was swarming.
The biggest negative, something this franchise can't seem to shake, were the pre-snap penalties.
I'm just happy it's (close) to football season.
We watched most Colorado games last few years - not as much an underdog team last year. Sanders really impressed. Of course, he did some dumb things - a few throws with feet not set that went screwy. Two times the attempted double shake-offs in the backfield - one actually did work. The two touchdown passes were just excellent. He wasn't lost out there at all - knew what he was doing. Very smart. The nfl is faster - didn't seem to faze Sanders.
I believe the new OC has had made a huge improvement in Stefanski's play-calling. Maybe that won't last long when the regular season starts.
Oh, Lavadain? Small wr can play. Never heard of him before. 5'8", 171 lbs. wow.
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It was an ok debut by Sanders. Some good and some bad, but there wasn’t a whole lot of completely awful. No Ints and only 1 sack.
It was an ok debut by Sanders. Some good and some bad, but there wasn’t a whole lot of completely awful. No Ints and only 1 sack.
I was at Blossom last night taking in a concert, so I couldn’t watch the game.
I just finished watching the replay on NFL Network, and I agree with you.
Let’s not overreact, we’re Browns fans and we’ve seen this before in preseason.
Two things that will define you: Your determination when you have nothing. Your attitude when you have everything. - Mike McCartney -
There were certainly a lot of positives, stuff to build on. The D was swarming.
The biggest negative, something this franchise can't seem to shake, were the pre-snap penalties.
I'm just happy it's (close) to football season.
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There were certainly a lot of positives, stuff to build on. The D was swarming.
The biggest negative, something this franchise can't seem to shake, were the pre-snap penalties.
I'm just happy it's (close) to football season.
We watched most Colorado games last few years - not as much an underdog team last year. Sanders really impressed. Of course, he did some dumb things - a few throws with feet not set that went screwy. Two times the attempted double shake-offs in the backfield - one actually did work. The two touchdown passes were just excellent. He wasn't lost out there at all - knew what he was doing. Very smart. The nfl is faster - didn't seem to faze Sanders.
I believe the new OC has had made a huge improvement in Stefanski's play-calling. Maybe that won't last long when the regular season starts.
Oh, Lavadain? Small wr can play. Never heard of him before. 5'8", 171 lbs. wow.
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There were certainly a lot of positives, stuff to build on. The D was swarming.
The biggest negative, something this franchise can't seem to shake, were the pre-snap penalties.
I'm just happy it's (close) to football season.
We watched most Colorado games last few years - not as much an underdog team last year. Sanders really impressed. Of course, he did some dumb things - a few throws with feet not set that went screwy. Two times the attempted double shake-offs in the backfield - one actually did work. The two touchdown passes were just excellent. He wasn't lost out there at all - knew what he was doing. Very smart. The nfl is faster - didn't seem to faze Sanders.
I believe the new OC has had made a huge improvement in Stefanski's play-calling. Maybe that won't last long when the regular season starts.
Oh, Lavadain? Small wr can play. Never heard of him before. 5'8", 171 lbs. wow.
We watched most Colorado games last few years - not as much an underdog team last year. Sanders really impressed. Of course, he did some dumb things - a few throws with feet not set that went screwy. Two times the attempted double shake-offs in the backfield - one actually did work. The two touchdown passes were just excellent. He wasn't lost out there at all - knew what he was doing. Very smart. The nfl is faster - didn't seem to faze Sanders.
I believe the new OC has had made a huge improvement in Stefanski's play-calling. Maybe that won't last long when the regular season starts.
Oh, Lavadain? Small wr can play. Never heard of him before. 5'8", 171 lbs. wow.
I'm Out of "reactions" for the day, but I agree.
Why can we only "react" 10 times in 24 hours? We're Browns fans, highly emotional lol.
only one i believe was on Sanders, the other i saw was on a lineman i never heard of
Right. But two is at least one too many
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only one i believe was on Sanders, the other i saw was on a lineman i never heard of
I think that most of the pre snap penalties came in the 2nd half so we were probably getting pretty deep into the roster by then. Sanders had a couple of dropped passes but he also had one INT that didn't occur because #84, Gage, played defense and broke it up.
I've now had a chance to see some of the media headlines...and of course, it's all about Sanders being great.
I was much more tempered in my post game evaluation of him. But I was happy to see that it went alright for him.
Ya know, we've seen a boatload of rookie QB's take their first NFL snaps in preseason. We've seen some look lost and overwhelmed, we've seen some look good....and everything in between. I was quite pleased to see that he made sure that the guys were lined up correctly and he got the ball snapped without having to rush to beat the delay of game penalty. So many rookie QB's get that penalty. They have you growing grey hair as the ball is not snapped and the clock is winding under 5 seconds. It's a distraction from good rhythm and can break concentration and focus on the pre snap scanning of the defense...not just for the QB, but for the rest of the offense as well.
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Did Mary Kay actually use the word “Legendary” on a preseason performance? ??
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Did Mary Kay actually use the word “Legendary” on a preseason performance? ??
Did Mary Kay actually use the word “Legendary” on a preseason performance? ??
I can't stand that qunt!
Nickers...."There are no old running QB's in the NFL "~Sam Rutigliano~ -
Late to the party, watched the game but working this weekend. Very encouraged with Shedeur's debut, he showed command of the offense and ability to read (albeit vanilla) defenses. Maintained accuracy after a shaky start and made some throws I've never seen a Browns rookie make since '99. Didn't panic against Panther's starting defense like DTR so let's hope we have something long term here. A good starting QB on a 5th round salary would make this team superb.
The team as a whole looked quite good, Graham and Schlesinger are studs and I hope Floreia makes the team despite his hamstring injury.
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Late to the party, watched the game but working this weekend. Very encouraged with Shedeur's debut, he showed command of the offense and ability to read (albeit vanilla) defenses. Maintained accuracy after a shaky start and made some throws I've never seen a Browns rookie make since '99. Didn't panic against Panther's starting defense like DTR so let's hope we have something long term here. A good starting QB on a 5th round salary would make this team superb.
The team as a whole looked quite good, Graham and Schlesinger are studs and I hope Floreia makes the team despite his hamstring injury.
I hope Floreia makes the team despite his hamstring injury.
Yeah, nice catch. But of the midget receivers I was more impressed with that Gage guy, Larvadain #84. He did the better job with the punts.
It's kinda' sad that the media is what it has become. Click bait and hype. It's a competition. Everyone has to overblow everything. They have to get people to read THEIR stuff....and to get people to quote THEM and THEIR thoughts. Now a coach can tell his team to 'block out the noise' all he wants...but he can't take their phones away from them. They're all walking around with the 'noise' in their pockets.
Hopefully Sanders stays grounded. He did some good things out there. But he's got plenty to work on. And Gabriel is going to get his shots at staying ahead of him on the depth chart.
I'm glad that the team had some success in their first pre season game. But it IS just pre season. And they were playing the backups for a team who's starters weren't that good last year.
BEING A BROWNS FAN IS A TEST TO SEE HOW MUCH YOU CAN TAKE -
I hope Floreia makes the team despite his hamstring injury.
Yeah, nice catch. But of the midget receivers I was more impressed with that Gage guy, Larvadain #84. He did the better job with the punts.
It's kinda' sad that the media is what it has become. Click bait and hype. It's a competition. Everyone has to overblow everything. They have to get people to read THEIR stuff....and to get people to quote THEM and THEIR thoughts. Now a coach can tell his team to 'block out the noise' all he wants...but he can't take their phones away from them. They're all walking around with the 'noise' in their pockets.
Hopefully Sanders stays grounded. He did some good things out there. But he's got plenty to work on. And Gabriel is going to get his shots at staying ahead of him on the depth chart.
I'm glad that the team had some success in their first pre season game. But it IS just pre season. And they were playing the backups for a team who's starters weren't that good last year.
Yeah, nice catch. But of the midget receivers I was more impressed with that Gage guy, Larvadain #84. He did the better job with the punts.
It's kinda' sad that the media is what it has become. Click bait and hype. It's a competition. Everyone has to overblow everything. They have to get people to read THEIR stuff....and to get people to quote THEM and THEIR thoughts. Now a coach can tell his team to 'block out the noise' all he wants...but he can't take their phones away from them. They're all walking around with the 'noise' in their pockets.
Hopefully Sanders stays grounded. He did some good things out there. But he's got plenty to work on. And Gabriel is going to get his shots at staying ahead of him on the depth chart.
I'm glad that the team had some success in their first pre season game. But it IS just pre season. And they were playing the backups for a team who's starters weren't that good last year.
Larvadain was better on punts, I think Floreia muffed his. I hated the Gabriel pick and said so here on draft day before Shedeur was drafted. Personally I think he's a career back up but I guess they have to go through the motions.
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There's the 1st World According to Wundumson called Flugel of the season; and I'm sticking to it...
It was a fun game to watch both sides of the ball and ST kickoffs. A lot of highly motivated and contagious play out there. I think this will be a fun season to watch regardless of the final record. The truth will lie in how this FO makes its cuts to the final 53. If Ford and Strong are still on the team, then Berry & Depo should be cut.
It was a fun game to watch both sides of the ball and ST kickoffs. A lot of highly motivated and contagious play out there. I think this will be a fun season to watch regardless of the final record. The truth will lie in how this FO makes its cuts to the final 53. If Ford and Strong are still on the team, then Berry & Depo should be cut.
Not sure what Depo has to do with cuts. Any evidence he does?
As to Ford and Strong, I don't disagree. Strong can be replaced by several of the guys who showed up on Friday night.
The thing Ford has going for him is experience. Coaches place a lot of value in that, maybe too much. I don't think experience at running back means that much. At least as much as a lot of other positions. Any rookie can take the hand off and run to the planned blocking hole. If it isn't there, do your best. I don't know that experience helps out a whole lot there. Shoot, it might be the one skill position that requires the least experience.
I wouldn't be shocked if we cut or traded Ford. He is just an average back. Is he a player we will look to extend? I don't think so. At least from an initial look, we have 3 other rookie running backs that can fill his shoes. The next 2-3 weeks might change my mind.
I have long said that unless you have one of the special ones, backs are a dime a dozen. The difference is opportunity. Give someone else the opportunity and we could easily replace what Ford brings.
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Yeah, nice catch. But of the midget receivers I was more impressed with that Gage guy, Larvadain #84. He did the better job with the punts.
It's kinda' sad that the media is what it has become. Click bait and hype. It's a competition. Everyone has to overblow everything. They have to get people to read THEIR stuff....and to get people to quote THEM and THEIR thoughts. Now a coach can tell his team to 'block out the noise' all he wants...but he can't take their phones away from them. They're all walking around with the 'noise' in their pockets.
Hopefully Sanders stays grounded. He did some good things out there. But he's got plenty to work on. And Gabriel is going to get his shots at staying ahead of him on the depth chart.
I'm glad that the team had some success in their first pre season game. But it IS just pre season. And they were playing the backups for a team who's starters weren't that good last year.
Larvadain was better on punts, I think Floreia muffed his. I hated the Gabriel pick and said so here on draft day before Shedeur was drafted. Personally I think he's a career back up but I guess they have to go through the motions.
hated the Gabriel pick and said so here on draft day..... Personally I think he's a career back up
I think that was the plan. He was to be Draft Pick '26's backup. Unless he turned out to be great. They had Gabriel as the #2 QB in the draft. In the 5th round they adjusted their plan.
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I think that was the plan. He was to be Draft Pick '26's backup. Unless he turned out to be great. They had Gabriel as the #2 QB in the draft. In the 5th round they adjusted their plan.
Or maybe the draft changed their plan. I don't think we ever thought Sanders would still be there in round 5. At that point he was worth any of the extra baggage, perceived or real. The 5th round is at that point where it is pretty easy to wash your hands and cut a player.
Some people are going to moan about cutting any drafted player but cutting a 5th rounder isn't going to cause any real backlash.
The flip side to this is a whole lot of people are going to be pissed if anybody else gets any kind of rep at QB. Sanders looked good, but it's way early to sell out and go all in.
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I think that was the plan. He was to be Draft Pick '26's backup. Unless he turned out to be great. They had Gabriel as the #2 QB in the draft. In the 5th round they adjusted their plan.
Or maybe the draft changed their plan. I don't think we ever thought Sanders would still be there in round 5. At that point he was worth any of the extra baggage, perceived or real. The 5th round is at that point where it is pretty easy to wash your hands and cut a player.
Some people are going to moan about cutting any drafted player but cutting a 5th rounder isn't going to cause any real backlash.
The flip side to this is a whole lot of people are going to be pissed if anybody else gets any kind of rep at QB. Sanders looked good, but it's way early to sell out and go all in.
Or maybe the draft changed their plan. I don't think we ever thought Sanders would still be there in round 5. At that point he was worth any of the extra baggage, perceived or real. The 5th round is at that point where it is pretty easy to wash your hands and cut a player.
Some people are going to moan about cutting any drafted player but cutting a 5th rounder isn't going to cause any real backlash.
The flip side to this is a whole lot of people are going to be pissed if anybody else gets any kind of rep at QB. Sanders looked good, but it's way early to sell out and go all in.
One meaningless preseason game against the 2nd and 3rd stringers doesn't tell the whole story.. While he looked good.. He still needs work on some things... Let the chips fall where they may...
Nickers...."There are no old running QB's in the NFL "~Sam Rutigliano~ -
It was a fun game to watch both sides of the ball and ST kickoffs. A lot of highly motivated and contagious play out there. I think this will be a fun season to watch regardless of the final record. The truth will lie in how this FO makes its cuts to the final 53. If Ford and Strong are still on the team, then Berry & Depo should be cut.
Not sure what Depo has to do with cuts. Any evidence he does?
As to Ford and Strong, I don't disagree. Strong can be replaced by several of the guys who showed up on Friday night.
The thing Ford has going for him is experience. Coaches place a lot of value in that, maybe too much. I don't think experience at running back means that much. At least as much as a lot of other positions. Any rookie can take the hand off and run to the planned blocking hole. If it isn't there, do your best. I don't know that experience helps out a whole lot there. Shoot, it might be the one skill position that requires the least experience.
I wouldn't be shocked if we cut or traded Ford. He is just an average back. Is he a player we will look to extend? I don't think so. At least from an initial look, we have 3 other rookie running backs that can fill his shoes. The next 2-3 weeks might change my mind.
I have long said that unless you have one of the special ones, backs are a dime a dozen. The difference is opportunity. Give someone else the opportunity and we could easily replace what Ford brings.
Not sure what Depo has to do with cuts. Any evidence he does?
Two peas in a pod. YOu don't think Mr. Analytics has anything to do with player selection? Go watch the movie Moneyball then. That was him and players selected & kept seemed to be quite a bit of it.
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Did Mary Kay actually use the word “Legendary” on a preseason performance? ??
I can't stand that qunt!
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he sure is a angry little racist isn't he
Racism don't have a damn thing to do with it.. She's a hack reporter and a mouthpiece for the Browns... Her and Tony Grossi are an embarrassment... They have been such since the 80's... Bill Livingston and Bob Kravitz were just as bad in the late 70's through a better part of the 80's.. When they were writers for The Plain Dealer.. They were never the quality of someone like Rick Tellander (Chicago Tribune) or Frank DeFord (Washington Post) or even Bob Ryan (Boston Globe) who could be annoying at times... For me... The best Sportswriters in Cleveland were Bob August, Joe Menzer(Cavs) And the late great Hal Lebovitz.. All three of them had class.. And weren't wrapped into the latest sound bites or carried an agenda... They reported the facts regardless of whatever party affiliation they may have had.. Most of the Cleveland Media for the last 30 years have been a bunch of germs...
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