The Official Browns at Patriots Game 8 Thread
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Easier to adjust when you have a greater range of abilities in your personnel, especially at QB.
Let me ask you an honest question. I’m not trying to get your goat. How many years does Kevin get a pass for “bad roster” until we think it’s more than roster personnel issues? Is it after the Watson contract is off the books?
when I see his coaching tree or peers (KOC , Lafluer, Shanahan, Steichen, etc) maximizing talent with cast offs ,injuries , and just otherwise similar talent , when does Kevin get the piss for wildly underperforming offense? I mean surely, at some point the finger has to point to him right ? By all accounts Gabriel was his guy, and this is awful.
I’ve said multiple times I think Kev is an above average coach. I just think the puzzle pieces are not fitting anymore.
Let me ask you an honest question. I’m not trying to get your goat. How many years does Kevin get a pass for “bad roster” until we think it’s more than roster personnel issues? Is it after the Watson contract is off the books?
when I see his coaching tree or peers (KOC , Lafluer, Shanahan, Steichen, etc) maximizing talent with cast offs ,injuries , and just otherwise similar talent , when does Kevin get the piss for wildly underperforming offense? I mean surely, at some point the finger has to point to him right ? By all accounts Gabriel was his guy, and this is awful.
I’ve said multiple times I think Kev is an above average coach. I just think the puzzle pieces are not fitting anymore.
The owner’s given him a pass until at least the end of the season per his last interview this weekend.
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I have never seen a SO CALLED BROWNS fan take more enjoyment out of losing than you nickers, that is why I really do not like you , so I would tell you to eat a bag of dicks that you could share with your friends on the poli board. but i do not like them either, so just fuck off then
Awww you mad????
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Let me ask you an honest question. I’m not trying to get your goat. How many years does Kevin get a pass for “bad roster” until we think it’s more than roster personnel issues? Is it after the Watson contract is off the books?
when I see his coaching tree or peers (KOC , Lafluer, Shanahan, Steichen, etc) maximizing talent with cast offs ,injuries , and just otherwise similar talent , when does Kevin get the piss for wildly underperforming offense? I mean surely, at some point the finger has to point to him right ? By all accounts Gabriel was his guy, and this is awful.
I’ve said multiple times I think Kev is an above average coach. I just think the puzzle pieces are not fitting anymore.
The owner’s given him a pass until at least the end of the season per his last interview this weekend.
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I only watched parts of the first half and around last 5 minutes of the game to watch a turnover turn into negative two points. Of note Shedeur made that play backed up in his end zone in the preseason. Can anyone tell me if Dillon stretched the field at all?
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I only watched parts of the first half and around last 5 minutes of the game to watch a turnover turn into negative two points. Of note Shedeur made that play backed up in his end zone in the preseason. Can anyone tell me if Dillon stretched the field at all?
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Damn. Listened on the radio, depressing.
I'll be back home tomorrow after a month on the road. Last game I saw on tv was the London debacle.
I wasn't expecting playoffs but figured a 6 or 7 win season. Looks like that's a stretch.
BYE week, then the NYJets who are also coming off of a BYE. The schedule makers really have me irritated, that's at least 2 Browns opponents coming off a BYE, unheard of.
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I only watched parts of the first half and around last 5 minutes of the game to watch a turnover turn into negative two points. Of note Shedeur made that play backed up in his end zone in the preseason. Can anyone tell me if Dillon stretched the field at all?
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Back up to #4 in the draft. Tank-a-thon is real
With all the great No. 1 picks the Browns have had........
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Sep 20, 2025The Cleveland Browns are drawing heavy criticism after starting the 2025 season with consecutive losses. Head coach Kevin Stefanski promised fans a clear offensive plan, but the unit continues struggling to find consistency through two games. Several question whether rookies Dillon Gabriel or ...
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https://sports.yahoo.com/article/former-steelers-oc-bruce-arians-192843959.html
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As the Steelers and the Browns prepare for their divisional matchup in Week 6, Pittsburgh's former offensive coordinator Bruce Arians offered some brutal criticism of Cleveland's head coach Kevin Stefanski.
On Tuesday, Arians made a guest appearance on The Pat McAfee Show and was asked to give his opinion on Stefanski — to which the former Steelers offensive coordinator offered this savage response:
"I don't know how he's kept his job this long,"
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ok, I mentioned the play-calling. At times, it was pitiful. Stefudski doesn't get it, doesn't have the instincts to be a head coach.
Guess what I just found:
Today Explore Mike Vrabel's bold criticism of Kevin Stefanski's play calling following the Browns' disappointing loss. Don't miss the insights!"During a press conference, Vrabel addressed the game with a focus on the Browns’ offensive decisions. He described the play calling as “questionable,” suggesting that the strategies employed did not effectively utilize the team’s strengths. The bluntness of his critique underscored the frustrations that can arise after a game where the outcome starkly contrasts expectations." -
ok, I mentioned the play-calling. At times, it was pitiful. Stefudski doesn't get it, doesn't have the instincts to be a head coach.
Guess what I just found:
Today Explore Mike Vrabel's bold criticism of Kevin Stefanski's play calling following the Browns' disappointing loss. Don't miss the insights!"During a press conference, Vrabel addressed the game with a focus on the Browns’ offensive decisions. He described the play calling as “questionable,” suggesting that the strategies employed did not effectively utilize the team’s strengths. The bluntness of his critique underscored the frustrations that can arise after a game where the outcome starkly contrasts expectations.""During a press conference, Vrabel addressed the game with a focus on the Browns’ offensive decisions. He described the play calling as “questionable,” suggesting that the strategies employed did not effectively utilize the team’s strengths. The bluntness of his critique underscored the frustrations that can arise after a game where the outcome starkly contrasts expectations."
What offensive team strengths does this team have?
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"During a press conference, Vrabel addressed the game with a focus on the Browns’ offensive decisions. He described the play calling as “questionable,” suggesting that the strategies employed did not effectively utilize the team’s strengths. The bluntness of his critique underscored the frustrations that can arise after a game where the outcome starkly contrasts expectations."
What offensive team strengths does this team have?
What offensive team strengths does this team have?
Andrew Callahan@_AndrewCallahanMike Vrabel: “When their gimmick plays ran out, we played pretty good defense.”
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Sep 20, 2025The Cleveland Browns are drawing heavy criticism after starting the 2025 season with consecutive losses. Head coach Kevin Stefanski promised fans a clear offensive plan, but the unit continues struggling to find consistency through two games. Several question whether rookies Dillon Gabriel or ...Sep 20, 2025The Cleveland Browns are drawing heavy criticism after starting the 2025 season with consecutive losses. Head coach Kevin Stefanski promised fans a clear offensive plan, but the unit continues struggling to find consistency through two games. Several question whether rookies Dillon Gabriel or ...
Not correct. The Browns have 2 Generals in charge of their offense: General Confusion and General Panic
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The owner is tanking before the new stadium move. Hoping rookies bring some excitement.
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I think the analytics were wrong on Gabriel and the football guys were right. I'm sure he has a high football IQ, but not the physical traits to be an NFL QB at least not enough to overcome his size.
Sanders doesn't have the IQ, and has showed F tier pocket presence in pre season. The season is dead but at least there's next year.
I think it makes sense to give Gabriel the jets and then give sanders some games, evaluate what you got.
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"During a press conference, Vrabel addressed the game with a focus on the Browns’ offensive decisions. He described the play calling as “questionable,” suggesting that the strategies employed did not effectively utilize the team’s strengths. The bluntness of his critique underscored the frustrations that can arise after a game where the outcome starkly contrasts expectations."
What offensive team strengths does this team have?
What offensive team strengths does this team have?
Well.......anyone gonna step up to the plate and answer that question?
It's NOT running between the Tackles...right?
It's NOT running outside of the Tackles...right?
It's NOT throwing to the outside WR's...right?
We don't have a magical Wes Welker slot guy right?
We have a couple of good TE's.....a midget QB....and an woefully underperforming offensive line. What are ya going to do with that?
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What offensive team strengths does this team have?
Well.......anyone gonna step up to the plate and answer that question?
It's NOT running between the Tackles...right?
It's NOT running outside of the Tackles...right?
It's NOT throwing to the outside WR's...right?
We don't have a magical Wes Welker slot guy right?
We have a couple of good TE's.....a midget QB....and an woefully underperforming offensive line. What are ya going to do with that?
Well.......anyone gonna step up to the plate and answer that question?
It's NOT running between the Tackles...right?
It's NOT running outside of the Tackles...right?
It's NOT throwing to the outside WR's...right?
We don't have a magical Wes Welker slot guy right?
We have a couple of good TE's.....a midget QB....and an woefully underperforming offensive line. What are ya going to do with that?
Punt.
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Back up to #4 in the draft. Tank-a-thon is real
With all the great No. 1 picks the Browns have had........
With all the great No. 1 picks the Browns have had........
We had a guy, that drafted a GREAT No. 1 pick. He was fired, by an incompetent owner, that listens to NON-FOOTBALL people
I’m no Baker Boy, but DAMN, he is better then any person Berry has ever drafted.
Jimmy is a LOSER. And always will be
"And they don't really know even what they're talkin' about And I can't imagine what empty heads can achieve."
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